"wow! youre very good at your job..."
i spent the other night having nearly everyone i spoke to tell me im brilliant at my job (i.e. sales) and one guy even said if they ever needed to hire for a strip club it would be me.
the thing is, none of them bought dances!
why am i bringing them to the brink but not able to tip them over?
they obviously want me, but something is making them hold back. im not sure what it is.
ive found that smiling, introducing myself and asking about them while touching them sells dances pretty quickly. i have to remember to pitch quickly and not talk too much, but when i remember, i sell very quickly.
everytime they say maybe later, or come back later, i always say, "but im ready for your now and im not sure i can come back later as i am very popular and i dont want you to miss out baby". thats usually when i can tell they were just lying about later, or when they get sold, but most times, theyre lying.
i find most nights are filled with 90% guys not buying and only 10% buying, its frustrating.
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Maybe you're coming off as insincere? Perhaps the guys are recognizing that you're using sales techniques on them, and that's why they're complimenting you on your skills.
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Maybe try toning down your hustle. That way intead of them thinking, "this girl knows how to say all of the rights things to push my buttons," they respond to what you are saying/doing.
Don't give up.
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Always be sure to be honest about your sales tactics. Every guy that has caught on and told me something similar like "you are good at your job" has bought a dance from me when I am honest and tell them that I use sales strategies. I even had a car salesman once recognize me and I said "Would you like a dance?" while nodding my head and standing up and then I said "And I'm assuming the sale too! Let's go!" He loved it.
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Hm, I get this from stage all the time. Like they'll tell me I'm gorgeous and the best dancer there but not get a damn dance.
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Brodielux is right, a good salesperson doesn't make the client feel like he's being sold. Rather she persuades him to choose to buy your services.
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I get that all the time. Usually the conversation ends this way:
Him: Wow, you're really good at sales!
Me: Evidently not, because if I was, I'd be naked by now. *pout*
On RARE occasion, that actually works and they get a dance. Usually they just laugh and make some tired comment about how broke they are, like I didn't know already.
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Instead of telling them how popular you are, just ask them WHEN you should come back. Or sometimes I say, "No, just one dance." I have know idea why that works, but it does.
Be the secret agent of sales. You want them to think of you as sincere.
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I hear a lot that I would be good in sales. And it's ALWAYS from guys who don't buy dances. ::) Irritating!
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I think its funny when they suggest you should work in sales. Er, thats what I DO. I just take my clothes off at the same time...
So now that I know I am being too obvious, any tips on how to be less obvious?
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guys that say something along those lines "you're a good sales person" don't buy dances from me either. I agree with Britney, good sales tactics is persuading customers to buy without them really noticing your technique, the ones that do most likely aren't interested. Making them comfortable with you increase your chances of selling... for me it's being a little more playful and slutty than my usual self because I'm normally kinda serious and i do appear conservative -which i can't really help. --disarming is key
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Try to keep your sales pitch in the realm of the body and not so much the mind. If they catch on to your logic (especially an intelligent attempt at a close), they'll feel sold. A good sales pitch is NOT born out of a mental game of chess with the customer because they'll recognize that they're playing chess!
Keep it in the realm of the body: Mirroring their body language or pose, leaning forward, touching his leg, arm, or knee, positive body language (nodding the head yes), touching yourself, eye contact and smile, etc... those are what disarm a gentleman and keep the momentum toward a climax which results in a dance or a VIP.
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A little tip I learned from "The Game" tehehehe... if they catch you in your "game" deny deny deny!!!
"ugh! I can't believe you would think that about me! I'm not hustling you! I think your trying to hustle me!" (The trick is to turn the accusation back on them! Those stinking little pick up artists have ton of little tricks to get out of these situations but the key is DENY DENY DENY)
Anyways.. I'm really into stage magic too and that is the #1 trick of magicians NEVER LET THE ILLUSION FALL (<--- said in a deep mystical echoy voice)
You a hustler? NEVER!
tehehehe }:D
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princessparis
A little tip I learned from "The Game" tehehehe... if they catch you in your "game" deny deny deny!!!
"ugh! I can't believe you would think that about me! I'm not hustling you! I think your trying to hustle me!" (The trick is to turn the accusation back on them! Those stinking little pick up artists have ton of little tricks to get out of these situations but the key is DENY DENY DENY)
Anyways.. I'm really into stage magic too and that is the #1 trick of magicians NEVER LET THE ILLUSION FALL (<--- said in a deep mystical echoy voice)
You a hustler? NEVER!
tehehehe }:D
I don't think that's going to A) help you get a dance, B) be the right kind of customer you are going to want to deal with and C) work to allay the suspicion — it's transparent that you're denying, so if he has half a brain, he will see right through that.
Sorry Paris, nothing personal, I just completely disagree.
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LOL sure Chrissy.
Thats the trick, to make it seem like your sincere. OF COURSE if you let it be transparent that your just denying it he's going to see through it and not get the dance!
The denial tactic has helped men (/people) cheat on their partners for ages (amongst other things). I mean even if someone can see that they're obviously denying it how are they going to prove it? And why would they go through all that trouble? If someone doesn't want to fess up to something then who has the energy to try to MAKE them fess up? You get me? A customer isn't going to sit there and try and prove to you that your lying to him... he may roll his eyes and be like "sure"... but if you expect that then you can prepare yourself to make further denial seem more realistic.
If your sincere enough you can get away with almost anything! -> I learned that from my ex-boyfriends / husband. I'm sure a lot of us have learned that from the men in our lives.
It's not if he has "half a brain" that matters.. it's if he has half the brain that YOU have that matters. in other words, You have to be smarter than he is. But in a way - the way I see it at least.... that's what men pay us to do. To out smart them so we can keep them in fantasy world. You know?
Guys want to be in a fantasy world... and part of that fantasy (a lot of the time) is that the girls that are lavishing all their attention on them aren't doing it to manipulate them out of money. However, they can't keep their brain from testing that reality. Their brain wants to test the fantasy to validate it. It's our job to "pass the test". A lot of men accept the part of us making money into their fantasy, but even still, no man likes to be manipulated. Why? Because Everyone wants to feel like they have the upper hand. Ok, wow, this is getting theoretical....
The second thing -> divert attention -> change the subject. In stage magic it's called "controlling attention" In fact Chrissy talked about it in one of her posts under the thread "Keeping Control of the Conversation and Always Being Closing?????" And that's exactly what needs to be done here! Keep control over the conversation and close the sale! Turn the topic to something more agreeable to the both of you.
So here's the tactic - Quickly and innocently deny then change the subject to something that will help you close. If he wants to push the topic further then deny even further - be even more "sincere" untill you feel like you can successfully change the topic to lighter conversation and CLOSE THAT SHIT.
The more you dwell on the topic of sales techniques the more attention your "manipulative" skills will get attention (which destroys report) and the less likely you are going to be to actually get the dance. I think we can all agree on this AT LEAST
So even if you don't want to deny the fact that you are using techniques on him then at least try to figure out how to change the subject but I'm telling you, the best way I personally think to handle the situation is to *gasp* LIE to your customer - wow what a concept.
And then it all goes back to how well you can pull it off... if you can't pull it off well then just forget it.
Machiavelli baby!!! Robert Greene! ---> these guys would agree with me. If you want I can quote these guys where they will tell you to do exactly what I am telling you to do... but right now I'm lazy.
Listen Chrissy, there are things you can do better than me, but when it comes to getting out of a situation like this - I know what I'm talking about. I may not have the best honesty ethics when I work with customers, but hell, it does the trick. And thats what matters here isn't it? I mean I'm sure there are other ways of handling it, but this is the way I have found works the best because it can make your attempts at "selling" a guy completely disappear if brought to light.
Girls may not be comfortable with it or they may not be able to pull it off... but that's not the issue here. The issue is that if you are able to pull it off IT WORKS. And just because you've never pulled it off / been able to pull it off doesn't mean that it doesn't work.
BTW, It may not be fool proof, but it's better than nothing. There will be the guys that once even the slightest suspicion of being manipulated is stirred - they will be so turned off that they will move on. Period, you can't help that. But, not all guys are so sensitive... in fact I'd say most are not, and you will be able to get them to forget that they ever suspected you at all! .... if your good at least.
How about this. Just try it out a few times in front of a mirror and then try it next time you get faced with it at the club and tell us how it goes. just remember that just like anything the Denial tactic takes practice to make it seem sincere.
BTW This tactic is for if you've already been "caught" using sales techniques... the best way to handle it is to never get "caught" in the first place - like paint goddess said.
(Oh, and BTW Chrissy... it should be -> B. work on the right kind of customer.... -> the way you said it didn't make much sense... I'm assuming that's what you meant.)
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^^ You could also try using humor if they accuse you of "selling." "Who, me, a dancer?! Try and sell a dance to you, a customer?! Now that's crazy talk!"