Re: Girls who flat out SUCK on weekends
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Originally Posted by
lilymiaomiao
What the heck??!!! I've been being pretty good about using these hustling tips and treating guys like they're special... do i really have to stoop down to "Wanna dance" on the weekends? Is that how Friday/Saturday hustle works?
Is there such a thing a girl who's just not carved out for weekends? I don't want to believe that i can't overcome it.
I know other girls can make like $600+on Saturdays, but I made $59 tonight (after $95 tip-out), I'm super-bummed... like I should have just worked minimum wage at my other job, and not have had to put up with weird assholes spanking me and leaving handprints on my skin... :(
In a word, yes. Don't be nervous or feel guilty about it either! You don't have to say "Wanna dance?" The thread at the top of this section "Helpful Things" has one-liners in it to use I think. I like to say stuff like "Hey baby, how are you?....Wanna come in the back for a real good time? *wink*"
If they try and say shit like "Hey, sit down for a minute. Slow down." DO NOT SIT DOWN. 9 times out of 10 these are the kind of guys who will get 0-1 dance. Many times, they will try and trick you into sitting and leading you on ("Yeah, we'll go to the CR after this beer!") and then say some shit like "Oops, its midnight. Gotta go!"
Basically, if they try and make you feel rude or guilty for wanna-dancing them, turn it back around on them politely so they can see why its not cool to waste our time. "Sorry babe, time is money *sly smile*" "Sorry hun, I gotta keep working." If they give you an attitude, just walk away!! Thats the beauty of this job. You can turn custies down!!
If your club is getting packed on the weekends, yes the majority of it could be non-spending douschebags, but someone out there is gonna buy a dance. My number 1 rule for the weekends is, while on the floor DO NOT SIT DOWN. Pretend like there is money floating above the custies heads, and its a challenge to give as many dances as you can before 2.
Ack sorry so long but hope it helped!
Re: Girls who flat out SUCK on weekends
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Originally Posted by
Yekhefah
Wanna-dance if it's very crowded, but avoid the kids and bachelor parties. MissAlethea is absolutely right, hunt down the lonely businessman instead.
Me, I HATE Friday and Saturday nights at showclubs and I don't do them anymore. I don't have the energy for broke, stupid children throwing blow-up dolls at each other.
He is my favorite. The Weekend Lonely Businessman. ESPECIALLY if he's from out of town. During the week, Lonely Businessman is hit or miss. He could be in there just checking things out and having a drink after work. But if he's there on a weekend, he wants to party AND he probably has money. The mere prospect of WLB makes me want to work this Saturday, despite the drunken young douches.
I'm not a weekend person, but when it comes down to having to work one of those days, I just smile and nod. Keep moving, keep smiling. Don't talk.
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In my club, out-of-towners are pretty much where all of the money is. It makes sense considering my club is in a pretty shifty part of town. I read somewhere that a large percentage of a business gets it's customers from something like a 10 mile radius. So in my case, I always look for the Lonely Businessman, or even friends traveling together.
Once I had two out of towners, and the more "seasoned" guy bought his friend a string of dances, and then once his friend told him what a good time he had the guy bought another string of dances for himself.
A trick I've learned is to peek in their wallet when they're buying drinks. If I see stacks of 20s or more then I go in for the kill.
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Ok i followed some advice, and i attacked a couple of bachelor parties as a strategy, instead of following my dayshift preferences... My 2nd Saturday went much, much better. like 9x better, literally.
Thanks so much! I'm going to try it again next week and get even better }:D
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I tried the "wanna dance technique" and it really does work the best on weekends I think. Of course be more creative than just 'wanna dance' but most guys are very respectful of you just getting to the point. I noticed some guys even wished me luck making money or said cute things like, "I'm broke, but go get 'em!" I definitely make the most money out of bachelor parties and traveling business partners.
I'm going to try a Monday night next week just to see if I can switch up my hustle and make money. I had a terrible the July 4th weekend so I'm hoping to do well the next few weeks so I can meet my goals.
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[lapdances are impulse purchases. The more time you spend talking, the more time he has to over-think it and back out of getting a dance. Keep it moving; momentum == money.[/QUOTE]
^^^YES, ALWAYS KEEP IN MIND! You are to be friendly, not to become their friend...:yes:
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Then as the night progresses my hustle gets faster the more people come in and the drunker they get. Then I just pretend I'm horny lol and that usually works. They love simple, dirty talk I think.
Yep. And Yep about the "impulse purchase" too. For busy nights it's all about selling dances quicker and creating that urgency. The "urgency" can't be "I'm a greedy stripper that needs your money" it's more "I'm a horny drunk stripper that needs to show you my boobs and be slutty, right NOW". And you don't have to be drunk, but you should channel that exhibitionistic (word?) energy that usually comes with having a few.
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Very good point about the impulse buying. I will definitely keep that in mind. Sometimes guys like the fact that I'm a good conversationalist, but I never thought of it that way. The more time I give them to think the less likely they are to buy dances impulsively. The light bulb went off [email protected]!!!!
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thanks for creating this post, I have the same problem! I am going to try to keep it short and sweet tonight and not get discouraged. Glad you reported it worked for you too Lily :)
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I like working weekends, cause even if my hustle isn't down pat I can always make at least a good couple hundred with no real effort. I always bank on stage; don't do much crazy pole stuff, but for some reason like 90% of guys will pull me aside afterwards and be like, you're the best dancer I've seen up there all night. Course, half the time they're broke, and I can take a compliment...but the other half of the time they want dances, and I get into my rhythm pretty quick. Weeknights are good for another reason; much less competition, and I'm pretty attractive if I do say so myself...and the pale natural blonde, natural big tits thing stands out with all the Italians in upstate NY. I think there's more opportunity to get a few big spenders on weeknights, but weekends there's a lot of money getting thrown around anyways. I always feel that if I really hustled well, I could really make a shitload on weekends...but a few hundred for not doing much is nothing to scoff at.
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My current club doesnt really do alot of private dances, most money is made on stage and table dances. Weekends in an environment like this are good, no matter what your hustle is, and Ive noticed we all usually make about the same amount each night. It kind of makes it a little more friendly than most other clubs Ive worked at as well. It cuts out the catty fights and "custy stealing". The busier it is, the more people at your stage throwing money. There has been times I have pulled 100 or more of just one stage. Generally we go up about 8 times a night. But to be honest, usually the "wanna dance" line is pretty golden. You cant really go wrong with it.
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i tried the whole 'wanna dance' hustle out saturday and did muuuuch better than i usually do with the younger crowds / stag parties...
this is a great thread! :) hopefully the next saturday i do will be even better now!
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I tried one-liners on Friday, and I did better than I normally do. I also got a lot less frustrated because I wasn't wasting time talking to 3 guys in a row for a few songs who said no. It was really good for my piece of mind.
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Originally Posted by
Electrum
Very good point about the impulse buying. I will definitely keep that in mind. Sometimes guys like the fact that I'm a good conversationalist, but I never thought of it that way. The more time I give them to think the less likely they are to buy dances impulsively. The light bulb went off
[email protected]!!!!
I know! I mean, I have been going about things all wrong....spending too much time talking!
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I am so glad I found this thread, this is exactly how I've been feeling. I always feel confident on weeknights but as soon as it's Friday or Saturday I freak out and become a nervous wreck. If I do force myself to approach them I often spend way too long talking, other girls have pulled me up on it. I think it's cos I take things very personally and I want them to think I'm a nice girl. I know I really shouldn't care about customers opinions of me. That was a really good post about being there to be friendly but not being there to be a friend to these guys. That really resonated with me cos that's where I go wrong. I'm definitely gonna keep in mind that it's an impulse purchase too, that's very true!! Well fingers crossed I can use this thread to help me tonight. Also as it's Halloween hopefully dressing up will help me feel more like a character and less like me :)
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Dont feel bad if the weekends aren't for you. The clubs make all of their money on the weekends so of course they want most of there girls to work at that time. I have found that customers who really want quality time with girls will not come in when it super busy but do sundays and weeknites. Just do those nights. Weekends are good for certain personality types but if thats not you don't even worry about it. The club makes theirs on the weekends but the smart girls makes theres on the weeknites.
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Tonight is my first weekend shift, and this thread gave me some pretty good insight on what I should expect and how I should behave :) Thanks girls!
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The "wanna dance" line will only work towards the last hour of the shift once the guys are already drunk, and they are now bored with sitting in a chair watching the girl onstage from afar OR if the customer:dancer ratio is in the dancer's favor.
The same strategies apply to the during the slower time from 8-12: build the conversation towards a "yes" response.
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Ah! I am totally this girl. On a weeknight, we might get 20 customers in our club TOTAL, and I'll somehow get dances out of 90% of them and walk out with $600+! But the second I get to a weekend, I seem to get intimidated. And I suck! I thought I was the only one.
Part of it too is that weekends attract guys who are outside of my target demographic. Younger guys don't seem to like me as much (or maybe they can tell I don't like them!)
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I definitely attract an older crowd as well, and they have been my biggest spenders by far. Halloween brought in this sweet old man who apparently saw me when I was coming in for my audition night, but was on his way out so he didn't get to watch me. So he tipped me double for everything to make up for it :biggrin:
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What are dollar dances on the weekends? I saw someone post about them in this thread. Do you literally give a lap dance for a dollar plus tips?
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I make most of my money on the weekends. I don't have enough patience to sit and talk with a guy if I'm not getting paid. On the weekends I can just bounce from custie to custie doing lapdances. I wear glow in the dark clothes and do lots of pole tricks to get their attention on stage. I try to close the sale with every guy that comes up to tip. That way when I get off I have a line of people waiting for lapdances.
Bachelor parties are the easiest to make money from. First, get them to buy a table dance. (I usually walk up to the group and say, "Who wants to see me naked?") After you finish ask who's coming to play with you first. Make sure that you give the guy a great lapdance, then walk him back to the group and ask who's next!
I try not to waste time with a lot of chit-chat. If they want conversation then they can buy a champagne room. Otherwise I keep it moving.
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Funny cuz I"m totally opposite, do better on weekend nights and better at "wanna dance" than talking to custies. I also attract a younger crowd vs older.