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Re: IMPORTANT: Offering Your ADVANCED Hustling Techniques
HH lost a lot of really valuable information when Bridgette left and her posts got deleted!!
I don't contribute much to HH even tho I've been dancing for almost 2 years coz I don't really have much of a hustle.
I was actually thinking today that I need to read up on HH to improve my $$$$
Maybe someone could compile a best of HH thread that would be awesome.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Offering Your ADVANCED Hustling Techniques
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Originally Posted by
cinammonkisses
Moral of my Rant: ALL DANCERS: If you haven't worked at LEAST 1yr and are ONE of your top earners..DO NOT post your 'hustle techniques' in HH.
I think I've contributed some great ideas. I haven't danced a year and I'm not quite a top earner but I've read lots of sales books and tested out different things.
Also, even if newbies don't post the best advice, they post things which can be considered and debated which often leads to a better hustle.
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It's the way in which the posts come across, NewMoon. If you ask a question, like, "how does this technique work for you guys with more experience?" as opposed to saying, "hey, i know i'm a newb to dancing but THIS is how you do it," which comes across incredibly arrogant and ignorant! So, my point is, think about what you're posting and the way in which you post it.
Also, just because you read some sales books does NOT mean you know how to hustle. Tried and true results from ACTIONS are what we want, not THEORY from a book!!!!!
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Lysondra
The 1+ years top earners on this board are slowly dying.
It also seems you're either a top earner or you're scraping the bucket to afford petrol. What happened to the middle ground? I either see girls on here with bangin' dollars or girls on here who can't afford their rent. It makes me cry.
I think I'm a medium earner, though with school and all going on I am prone to complaints of poverty. I just spend my time learning from HH, not posting too much.
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Originally Posted by
Chrissy68
It's the way in which the posts come across, NewMoon. If you ask a question, like, "how does this technique work for you guys with more experience?" as opposed to saying, "hey, i know i'm a newb to dancing but THIS is how you do it," which comes across incredibly arrogant and ignorant! So, my point is, think about what you're posting and the way in which you post it.
Also, just because you read some sales books does NOT mean you know how to hustle. Tried and true results from ACTIONS are what we want, not THEORY from a book!!!!!
I can understand that but I still disagree with the "one year, top earner" thing. There are plenty of people with less than a year of experience who have great advice to offer.
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I usually browse over the crap advice from people who are known to post about having shitty nights continuously. Stripping is basic sales techniques and I can tell from those who use them on this board and those who don't.
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Hey, I'm a medium/normal earner. I make enough to pay bill and have some nice stuff on the side and savings.
I think we medium earners are just so plain that no one notices us haha. We're not talking about making mint but we ain't complaining about being broke either, so we just kinda wallflower on the cashflow discussion.
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New Moon, what makes you think that you have more to offer than say Britney Ireland, who has been dancing for well over 5 years? Do you think you've seen more and know more than she does?
My point is not to attack you, but instead to prove that while you should contribute to threads, your knowledge is limited to what you've seen in a relatively short period of time. I don't want to fight over this, but I want you to really get what I mean.
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Originally Posted by
Helle
Hey, I'm a medium/normal earner. I make enough to pay bill and have some nice stuff on the side and savings.
I think we medium earners are just so plain that no one notices us haha. We're not talking about making mint but we ain't complaining about being broke either, so we just kinda wallflower on the cashflow discussion.
We're keepin' it mediocre, Helle! ;D
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Originally Posted by
TigersMilk
I usually browse over the crap advice from people who are known to post about having shitty nights continuously.
QFT!!!!
It's hard to take someones advice seriously if they are constantly posting about financial problems. I think money management skills are a good indicator of an experienced hustle.
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Originally Posted by
cinammonkisses
Ok, I'll admit it. I can't take it anymore. Hustle Hut is an area of this site where us fellow dancers can share/ask questions for advanced money making tips. I've noticed though, in the past few months that some, ok alot of dancers are posting "tips" and honestly you have no business posting tips/techniques because you're still a newbie.
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Originally Posted by
cinammonkisses
Have you ever been at work and a girl whose only been dancing a month wants to give you pointers on how to hustle...ummm yea this is the exact same thing. Like I said..hustle hut is ADVANCED hustling techniques. They are newbies..when you are new to something, you are called a novice.
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Emily
maybe the medium earners aren't talking since a lot of the talking is bitching or bragging
Yep, I've taken quite a few steps back from Hustle Hut because it's a lot of amateur bs lately. That's cool for a newbie but there's been very little fresh advanced stuff. Also it is either a bitchfest or bragfest. There's a loooot of girls who simply shouldn't be dancing and in time economic hardship will weed them out. In the meantime I find myself sharing my new discoveries with my friends. I guess that's a good short term solution. Keep experimenting and thinking outside the box and you'll continue to progress.
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NewMoon
There are plenty of people with less than a year of experience who have great advice to offer.
I just quoted you ^^^^ Save that quote.... and if you're still dancing 1 or 2+ years from now, read it to yourself. You'll fall to the floor in chuckles.
I've been dancing for a while and I am amazed at how little I knew, how many mistakes I made, and how many things I did wrong in my first year.
Believe me, grasshopper, you've much to learn.
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. -----Socrates
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I consider myself a normal/average dancer. When I'm dancing, I'm never struggling to make ends meet, but I'm not driving a brand new car and living in a super nice apartment either. I always paid my bills, and put away a couple hundred in the bank.
I started to really know how to make money consistently around month 7 or 8 of dancing, I don't consider myself a super hustler, but I was always one of the top earners where I worked. At least top 3, even when I was a minor in pdx.
I agree that advanced hustling techniques should be considered in this post only from members who have been dancing at least a year and are top earners.
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Re: IMPORTANT: Offering Your ADVANCED Hustling Techniques
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Originally Posted by
TigersMilk
I usually browse over the crap advice from people who are known to post about having shitty nights continuously. Stripping is basic sales techniques and I can tell from those who use them on this board and those who don't.
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Originally Posted by
dangerousdiva
QFT!!!!
It's hard to take someones advice seriously if they are constantly posting about financial problems. I think money management skills are a good indicator of an experienced hustle.
Everyone, please read this! This is one of my main issues. DO NOT post in HH about how to hustle, when you ass is constantly in SG bitching about, "I only made $30" That's what's killing me! The girls who aren't making shit, are the ones who wanna give advice. That's some backwards shit.
P.S. I'm sorry for the cursing (u girls know I dont do that to often lol) but this has really got me going! :)
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i'm glad someone posted this. i have been dancing 2 years and i'm one of the top earners at my club. but i also don't post very much in HH because i don't find many threads that i want to contribute to. like others said, there's a lot of crap that needs to be weeded through before you can find something worth reading/replying to. i read certain threads, like chrissy's helpful things, or the one about selling multiple dances, and i've seen in the last year how my hustle has changed completely. my first year of dancing was a lot of trying out new things to see what worked and what didn't. now i'm in a pretty good groove but who knows where i'll go from here.
i also agree with chrissy's point about what it means to be a "top earner." my shifts are shorter than a lot of girls from what i've seen (around 5 hours on a weeknight) and the way my club is set up is totally different (no CR - the most i can get is $20 from a lap dance, not counting tips. we also don't have "set" hours. technically we open at 8 but that's flexible. plus we don't close at a set time. we "close," by calling the last dancer on stage when it isn't busy in the lap dance area anymore, after 1 on weeknights and 2 on weekends. and then it's "lap dancing only," which means we could be done at 2am on a weekend or still going til 3:30. and then some girls are still dancing until whenever.. you have the chance to do 50 more dances if that's what the customer wants.) so what i consider to be a great night is different than what other girls might. and even though i AM a top earner at MY CLUB, that doesn't necessarily mean i would be at a DIFFERENT club, because i've been here for a year and i simply can't say because i haven't tried it.
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Lysondra
Yeah but there's still people who are mediocre. That's the percentage for everything, taxes, income... but I never EVER see a stable general happy mediocre dancer. Like... never!! They're either 80% freaking POOR or 20% with BMWs and houses and diamonds types... like... none just 'yeah I pay my rent and save about a hundred a month... I have a savings and all my bills are paid but I still have a little debt on a credit card' types!!!
SOMEONE out there has to be a mediocre dancer.
We can't all either be shit or top earner.
I am! Hey there!
I think "crap wages" has changed - either because bad wages have become worse, or because people are more ready to admit it. a few years ago $300 was crap; I remember defending the sad little $300 crap earners, saying that they still had a right to be dancers. Now, girls seem to think that is doing alright. It's like inflation, but the opposite.
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^^ I still think 300 is crap!
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austinatalie
^^ I still think 300 is crap!
You are lucky to have that luxury. :)
At this point, in sweltering slow summer HELL I am happy as long as I don't end up in the red. But this thread isn't really about numbers. Depending on your geographical location numbers are arbitrary. I guess all you have to go on is your club and your town/county/state/whatever.
So... meh... :P
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Originally Posted by
austinatalie
^^ I still think 300 is crap!
Me too. That's not the point. My point was not to impress girls who make less money with what a superior person I am (or anyone else is) because we make more money; it was to outline why there seems to be more income polarity.
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Originally Posted by
cinammonkisses
Everyone, please read this! This is one of my main issues. DO NOT post in HH about how to hustle, when you ass is constantly in SG bitching about, "I only made $30" That's what's killing me! The girls who aren't making shit, are the ones who wanna give advice. That's some backwards shit.
HolyGodJesus! THANK YOU! This is precisely why I've been avoiding SG lately. Bitch rants about not making shit constantly. I'm a top earner at my club, and do you think I want to come into HH and read even MORE bitching and arguing? NO.
I'm not saying that every single night I work is utterly and perfectly spectacular-- this is The Stripping Industry and it can be very unpredictable as we all very well know. But newbies, PLEASE! Read up and study or ask questions first!!! :P
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Before I started dancing I practically LIVED in HH soaking up all the advice. I think I've posted in HH a grand total of 2x -maybe-, but this thread makes me afraid to even peek in HH :P lol I never realized this issue was THAT big of an issue. But when I read HH info I think if I can apply it to the hustle needed at my club and if it will work for me, if not I disregard the advice - whether its from a newb or veteran - because not all advice will work for me or my club. But I can see how it could also being annoying to sort through newb suggestions when your looking for more experienced advice.
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^^Don't read it that way... but there is a whole lot of bad advice (like how to grind the whole song away and make money cheating people) that has come out in HH lately. And I'd hate for a newbie dancer to take that advice instead of the actual good info, yanno what i mean? Don't be scared to ask questions, or to post, but to tell us that "pssshhht here's a surefire HH tip that will blow your current hustle out of the water, even though i've only been dancing for a few days/weeks/months..." it's like... wtf? I don't think this is directed at all at you, though.
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Originally Posted by
Chrissy68
^^Don't read it that way... but there is a whole lot of bad advice (like how to grind the whole song away and make money cheating people) that has come out in HH lately. And I'd hate for a newbie dancer to take that advice instead of the actual good info, yanno what i mean? Don't be scared to ask questions, or to post, but to tell us that "pssshhht here's a surefire HH tip that will blow your current hustle out of the water, even though i've only been dancing for a few days/weeks/months..." it's like... wtf? I don't think this is directed at all at you, though.
This is the point. No one is trying to bully anybody in here. I personally LOVE answering questions on hustling techniques and helping newbies with strategies. Hell, every day I work I learn something new, too-- that's what I love about my job. We just want to keep this a helpful and positive place for everybody to share tips and provide support. Please don't feel ashamed.
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I'm mediocre. I travel to places where I can be top bitch. :grin:
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Re: IMPORTANT: Offering Your ADVANCED Hustling Techniques
so ummm... how's about them super advanced hustle tips?
;o)