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Social networking and stripping.
I hear about some dancers who post their schedules on the web somewhere so that the custys know when they're coming in, and I think that's kinda cool. I don't have a Myspace page, and I'm a little weirded out by it, but I'm wondering how many of you use the web to advertise when you'll be around.
I know MySpace is big, but what about some of the other stuff that's out there? Have any of you used Twitter? It's kind of like a real-time tool to let people know what you're doing right now. So, if you tell your custy's your Stripper Twitter ID, they can hook up online to get an announcement when you say: "I'm dancing at such and such a place from such and such a time to whenever. Stop by and see me!"
What do you think? Would you use this stuff to get the word out to your customers, or what? If you do, what do you do to make it work for you?
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I don't know; some girls do it and love it. Others do it and see little results. I used email (a sep. acct) to contact good customers, and when I connected with one I rather enjoyed talking to, I gave him my stripper email. That worked pretty well to bring guys back in.
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I had a myspace page for my stripper name at the last club that I worked at and actually had guys come in that just found me on the web!!!!!
I made quite a lot of money off of guys that just found me on myspace it was AWESOME. I mean they came to the club JUST to see me and some of them even brought friends.
The only thing I found difficult was actually coming in when I said I would.... you know how it is when you don't have a fixed schedule :D
Here's my old profile... I know it's dumb but hey, it worked! http://www.myspace.com/celesteini
(omg! i have customers from months ago messaging me cause they saw I was online! Craziness.)
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i only post on craigs list, but i thought about posting my stripper self on myspace.
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i have a stripper myspace page and it works wonders
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Yeahhhh that's my only prob with social networking... having to respond to IMs when they see me online, which is why my stripper email was a yahoo one, not a gmail! I learned that lesson the hard way LOL!
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Hey, have you girls heard of stripwatch.com ? A girl told me about it today. It's like a stripper myspace. I've only been on there less than 24hr and weeded through the bs. I have 2 (from what I can tell) serious stripclub customers who want to come see me at work to do VIP's.
I haven't had any luck yet w/ the myspace as far as getting customers.
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Chrissy68
Yeahhhh that's my only prob with social networking... having to respond to IMs when they see me online, which is why my stripper email was a yahoo one, not a gmail! I learned that lesson the hard way LOL!
^^I just realized tho that you can make it so it doesn't show when your online... I know I did get a lot of messages that I just didn't reply to... that's the best way to deal with it. Reply to the top ten or twenty letters you get once a week and forget about the rest. (oops! I'm so sorry I didn't get a chance to reply to your message.... I really wanted to but poor me I'm just sOOoOOoo busy!)
Anyways here are a few tips that I thought would work well for a stripper myspace page:
1. Have quite a few pictures that are super flattering (and sexy)- the more the better. People are very visual when it comes to surfing the web. Speak with pictures, not with words. And if you have to say something... then make sure you space it out with lots of pictures. Not only are peoples attention spans held better with audio and visual messages... but men in particular are geneticly disposed to asses women visually... (read the Red Queen, It's why they love porn so much, and why guys will go for the dumb yet hot blonde. Women are more disposed to asses men socially anyways thats a whole other thread!)
2. Make sure to post "thanks for the add"... or something a little more creative to all the people who friend request you. A lot of my friends I got because they saw me on one of their friends pages ;D If you have a pretty picture of yourself uploaded to photobucket I'd probably post that on their comments too.
3. Make sure that the people you accept as your friends are from your surrounding area. There are so many spammers out there! and once you accept a spammer and once your page gets a lot of friends it's hard to get rid of them (I used to have a Myspace Music page which had over five hundred friends so I speak from a bit of experience!)
... Pretty much common sense shtuff
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cinammonkisses
Hey, have you girls heard of stripwatch.com ? A girl told me about it today. It's like a stripper myspace. I've only been on there less than 24hr and weeded through the bs. I have 2 (from what I can tell) serious stripclub customers who want to come see me at work to do VIP's.
I haven't had any luck yet w/ the myspace as far as getting customers.
Do you have a hot picture as your default picture? this is a must! And it should actually be of YOU... if your advertising something that isnt the product your selling it's kind of like idk... misleading advertising?
Oh and make sure your status is set to single, your age isn't like wicked old, your profile is set so it can be viewed by everyone and find places to post... like in the local myspace forums... But most guys will find you cause they're lonely / horny, browsing the single girls in their area, but if you don't have a picture of yourself as your default your probably not going to get a lot of attention from these types.
And another great thing to do is when customers ask for your number make sure they go to your myspace instead... I used it kind of like an e-mail address. And then you post comments on their page with some hot pictures of yourself... and bam... you have their friends friend requesting you too! And so on and so forth... just keep posting comments on your friends pages and that will do a lot for you
I've never heard of that other website your talking about tho... but hey, let us know how it goes!
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I use myspace, i have twitter, but I don't really use it much.
I find that myspace will draw in a large volume of cheap to average spenders, but the older wealthier VIP types don't hang out on myspace very much.
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OMG sorry but i had another really good idea - request to be friends with some popular local bands or club pages.... you know and comment on their page with a sexy picture letting then know that you hope they drop in to see you sometime... not only are you advertising to some popular clients (in a welcome way esp. if you add a picture) but your also advertising to anyone who see the comment (and likes the picture)
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britneyireland
I use myspace, i have twitter, but I don't really use it much.
I find that myspace will draw in a large volume of cheap to average spenders, but the older wealthier VIP types don't hang out on myspace very much.
OMG sorry to overload this thread with my posts...
any ways this is totally true. It's a lot of younger guys that get drawn in... and most older VIPs would much rather communicate with e-mail.
But i've gotten a few good customers off of it. Mostly super lonely late 20's kind of guys, the one i made bank off of was in the military.
;D lol... but as we've talked about britney, my personal hustle is based on having a larger customer base so that I can choose the top spenders from them rather than honing into the niche vip market. Although I do approach them as well... I also market towards the larger customer base. I can't say that my way is better but i think it's probably a good idea to market yourself where you can. (before I left on pregnancy leave I was one of the top %20 earners in my club) Thats just what I did. I found that sometimes the customers from myspace would come in at very opportune times... great relief on slow nights.
The worst publicity is no publicity... isn't that what they say in public relations?
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britneyireland
the older wealthier VIP types don't hang out on myspace very much.
QFT!
This is so true. None of the big spenders I've met have had a myspace or facebook.
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having my stripper myspace has helped my career immensely.
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Darcy Foxx
having my stripper myspace has helped my career immensely.
Oh, I could TOTALLY see it being beneficial for a private party dancer. Stripclubs..nah not so much for the "type" of clientele that usually spends awesome money on me.
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BTW Britney I just wanted to say that I totally have respect for you and I didn't mean to negate you on this one. I just don't see how it could hurt having a myspace so you you can 1. Let people know your schedule 2. Promote yourself and 3. keep in touch. Thats all. If you think otherwise I'd really like to know why... cause i mean it goes against all the theory and experience that I have personally.
Like I feel that your going to say that it's because these low level spenders that are attracted through myspace distract you from your higher paying clients, but if you were really on top of things, don't you think you could just go for the higher spenders if they're around? And then you can just use the other guys that came in from your myspace as like side-liners?
I'm seriously curious cause I know you have a lot of expertise to learn from.
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princessparis
BTW Britney I just wanted to say that I totally have respect for you and I didn't mean to negate you on this one. I just don't see how it could hurt having a myspace so you you can 1. Let people know your schedule 2. Promote yourself
Because the young boy demographic isn't something she's interested in. Me either frankly. I like the older white-collar men. Like Brit said, those men (older men) aren't on myspace.
As far as the young boy demographic, I'm really not trying to get a flood of young 18-25yr old broke dudes trying to 'chill' with them. Even if a younger guy did come in, he'll usually (in my exp) only have enough for 1-2 dances. And knowing him he'll wanna "chill" half the freaking night while he decides if hey may/may not buy one. Eff that! I would much rather spend that time hustling old lonely guys into VIP/CR
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princessparis
Like I feel that your going to say that it's because these low level spenders that are attracted through myspace distract you from your higher paying clients, but if you were really on top of things, don't you think you could just go for the higher spenders if they're around? And then you can just use the other guys that came in from your myspace as like side-liners?
I'm sorry, but :O Wha..
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I know exactly what you mean.
Some girls do well with those types, but thats not where the real $$ is for sure.
And what i meant when I said "if your really on top of things" is that you can work both crowds (the older vips and the younger guys with average wallets) to make the most out of the night:
I mean if there aren't any vips and you can get a few guys in off of your myspace thats got to be better than there not being any vips and having to go and find / compete for a customer. And if there are vips in the house then you can spend like %95 of the night with them and while they are going to the bathroom / getting more atm / your on stage, then you can make $$ off the boys that came in to see you.
Anyways, thats what I meant. It takes a bit of mental juggling to pull it off seamlessly... lol "being on top of things" is merely my jargon for the mental juggle... i can see how it could be somewhat insinuating tho :D
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thanks for the stripwatch tip ill give it a shot!
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Oh, I use myspace to mass market....but I always defer to the Pareto Principle (20% of your clients will be 80% of your total sales)
I'm too old for a lot of the 21-26 yo crowd. I get the "wow....how OLD are you?" Occasionally I'll get a little hottie with the older woman fetish who will buy multiple dances, but then they get offended when I decline a date, and don't have a tendency to be a repeat customer.
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I don't even know what to say here... I'm cracking up though. Not with. At.
Britney's on top of her game. That's all's I gots to say on that. Keeerist.
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Myspace does jack shit for me. And it's a pain in the ass. For me at least.
We're lucky to have PDXblackbook here in Portland and that has gotten me a little help. Not much, but a little.
Email has helped me tremendously. That is what I know for sure. There is something about sending a personal email to a guy that just seems to get him into the club whenever I want.
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X2 brittany i wanna learn from you- you seem educated and wise and maybe its laziness but i rather go to work apt. only exclusive with high rollers or be broke but got no time convincing, working hard for them -they need to work hard for me ha ha - i make connected friends along the way for future non stripping resources- but for me less is more
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I don't use myspace to attract customers.
Taking this in another direction, but if you work in a club that has CR's, networking with your co-workers can be a huge resource. If they find a party, they will include you. You don't need to tip them for hooking you up either, you just return the favor!
This is better than the hosts hooking you up, in my opinion. I usually work solo but if I stumble upon a group that needs more girls other than myself, I page a girl that hooked me up before or vice versa. We don't hang out outside of work and rarely know each other's real names, we just know how to work together.
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^^ that's so right! sometimes you might even be friendly with a girl but you know she can't close a sale, so, it's best to not include her in the party.
there was one girl that i used to work with who would be able to close down a room for an entire night, if she got in there in the first place. she wasn't necessarily good at selling the rooms, but she was wicked good at keeping people in there for fucking ever. I wasn't even friends with her, but I knew her abilities, so if there was a party of 3, and Emily and I needed a third, we'd grab her.