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Advice needed on maximizing humiliation for this sub PL
I was scoping out Craigslist for the hell of it (why is it that Australia has all the good dick pics?) and came across this:
Title: Nice Guy Seeking Domme for Possible LTR m4w 36
Message: I'm a handsome, professional, very active and successful, who is seeking an assertive, inteligent woman who understand D/s and is looking for her ideal submissive cuckold. You must love being spoiled and put on a pedestal.
My email for the hell of it:
What makes you think you are worthy of becoming my bitch-toy?
His response:
Thank you very much for writing to me. I love your email! I am an intelligent, sweet, well-educated, handsome, professional who is looking for a very bossy, spoiled, demanding, Domme to serve in any capacity she desires. I am very submissive, respectful, well-mannered and accomodating. We could go shopping and do drinks, dinner, shows and anything else you might decide upon. I am the type who would enjoy following you around the shops and carrying your bags for you for hours while you leisurely stroll from store to store shopping. I would totally spoil you, pamper you and cater to your every whim. If you are interested, I would love to hear from you again.
So I respond only halfway Domme, trying to figure out his parameters:
Before deciding if you're worth my time, you need to tell me
what turns your devious little crank.
Are you looking for financial, verbal, physical, sexual or
some specialized domination?
How public or private do you want your humiliation to be
as I grind you beneath my heel?
I'm expensive, and between benefactors.
Tell me about the previous set ups where your doms had to
put up with you; what did you specifically do, and what
made it worth her while since it obviously wasn't you.
Give me the details and I'll set up the parameters for a
possible mutually beneficial relationship.
His response:Hello, it is so wonderful to hear from you. Thank you so much for the amazing email.
The type of domination I crave the most is psychological and mental, as well as mind control tactics! I enjoy being with a woman who knows how to put me in my place, and keep me there. The bossier and meaner she is the better, as that will only cause me to respond to her with all the more enthusiasm and appreciation. I want her to make me jump through all of her hoops. The meaner Mistress is to me, the keener I am to her.
I am extremely interested in humiliation, strict discipline and control, cuckoldry, emasculation, chastity, denial, total power exchange, vintage clothing and dress, high heels, and foot worship. I like my humiliation to be semi-private. I like a woman who is very aggressive and verbal in her abuse. I want her to pile on the abuse and humiliation. You stated it perfectly when you wrote ". . . as I grind you beneath my heel" and "what made it worth her while since it obviously wasn't you."
I will admit to you that I do not enjoy physical pain at all. I realize, however, that a Domme should be able to freely impose punishments and pain at her whim, as part of her training regimen, to ensure obedience, to keep her submissive attentive, and for any other reason she might decide. I am not the type of sub who will purposefully try to be punished because he enjoys pain.
I have had relationships with women who were dominant in varying degrees in the past. Each of them was one of the most confident, strong-willed and determined individuals I have ever met. They all had different styles of domination. For example, one of them required me to serve her in chastity with any release only on her terms. Another girl was an expert at humiliation. I had a long term relationship with a beautiful woman who openly dated other men and had lovers and eventually denied me any sex altogether. Please let me know if you want me to go into more details.
Well, please let me know how you think we should proceed from here. Can you send a picture or describe yourself physically and your interests? I hope you have a wonderful day and that I hear from you soon.
(Name)
My response (I don't have access to my good pictures right now, however I wouldn't give one to him this early on anyway. I'll probably just make him meet me in the club without giving him a picture):
A picture of myself is too good for a lousy pigfucker like yourself.
Your first punishment for asking anything for yourself as if
you were my equal is to write:
My queen is superior to me in all ways, and validates my
pathetic existence by graciously allowing me to lap up her
few crumbs of attention.
You will handwrite this one hundred times and have it on your
person at all times.
You'll hear from me when I'm good and ready to have you hear
from me.
Twenty minutes later and he responds:
I am very sorry for assuming I could ask for your picture.
I will do as you say and handwrite my lines.
Please don't be mad at me. I really believe we could have a very mutually rewarding relationship.
Now-- I only wrote the "mutually rewarding relationship" to confirm for him that while yes, I plan on financially dominating him that he will get
some effort on my part as well. So, I plan on ignoring him for a couple
of days, though I'm tempted to flame him for thinking that it really is
going to be mutually rewarding because he thus far deserves no rewards.
From ya'all, it'd be nice to get some feedback. I'm a snarky bitch but I'm
not verbally abusive so this is a learning experience for me. I'm not so much worried about going over the line because with verbal abuse I doubt there is one for this guy, but I'm worried that I'm not going to push it hard enough since, while domineering, is not my normal mode of domination.
My plan thus far:
Ignore him for three days
Send him a shopping list for foot worship items (OPI nail polish, pedicure stuff, and perhaps a pair of shoes)
Perhaps make him send me $50 via paypal to make sure he's on the up and up.
and then invite him into the club and make him take me back into VIP and do my feet while I eat, play on my cellphone, otherwise barely throw him a crumb of attention. then I plan on making him sit in the corner of my club, refuse every girl that comes by (while commanding him to give $5 to each girl who approaches him since he's a waste of space) and perhaps make him pay to have me give other men lapdances (so as to cover the cuckold angle.)
I also think that at some point if things progress well, I'm going to make him meet me at a Barnes and Noble and assign him some reading homework-- whatever I think is useful to bring him to heel, even if it means telling him to learn to knit and then to make me a scarf. Or, if he's in computer work, I'll assign him to make me a worship site. (I realize
these are both long term projects but they'll keep him busy so I don't have to continually tell him how inferior he is.)
Depending on how much money he seems to have at his disposal (how do Dommes figure out how to not ask for too much so as not to alienate him?) I'll then give him a shopping list of exact items I want from the mall and then either continue enjoying myself at B&N or go see a movie.
If he gets all the items right, I'll let him kiss my inner ankle. If not (and I'll be a nitpicky motherfucker) I'm going to go tell him to pick up 100 pieces of dog shit and give him a mantra to verbally repeat while he's doing it.
Other ideas? or criticisms of what I've got?
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Have hi send a payment to your paypal or po box. You want a pedicure and he shoud be the one to pay for it.\
are you planning on meeting him? Shopping or just online. If you are meeting you should tell him to show up at the designated spot ON TIME(one minute over and you leave) with a bouquet of your favorite flowers and he should already have your coffee(whatever you drink) ordered and ready for you exactly as you want it.
Meet in a coffe shop in a mall with stored you like..preferably high end stores. Sip your coffee...tell him speaks when spoken to and never any other time. He is to be your walking ATM...you shop,bring what you want to the counter and stare at him tapping your foot with an annoyed look on your face if he doesnt immediately whip out the CC or cash to pay for it.
He is NEVER to touch so much as your SLEEVE with out getting explicit permission from you first.
He is NEVER to complain or argue..his opinion means nothing
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Man, this sounds awesome! What area of craigslist did you find this?
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I was just scoping out the Man Wants Women sections of CL: Casual Encounters, Man Wants Woman, and Misc Romance. It just popped up in one of those sections so I thought I'd try my hand.
In learning about verbal domination I came across these sites:
(the formatting sucks, but it gets across that I hope my sub is a brat. much more interesting that way.)
and
(I really really liked this one because it emphasizes the responsibility of the Dom and the necessity of rewarding the subs in subtle ways.
I need some good names-- I want to go with the more subtle demeaning nicknames. the second essay uses "little man." I like that one better than, say, pigfucker-- but I was mimiching Princess Sirena.
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Forgive me, Fancygirl, but after reading this I decided to do a craigslist search of my own, and I found a guy and sent him an email basicially saying you aren't even wirth the time it took me to write this email, you pathetic little shit. I asked him what turned him on and what kind of arrangments he has had with Mistresses before. I got this email as a reply:
Dearest Mistress ,
i just cannot even express how Your email has my heart pounding right now. i can't help it, i know You so so right, i am far to pathetic to even deserve an email from You.
As ordered Mistress, the things that turn me on are:
foot worship / sniffing stinky toes / footstool
cuckolding
beind used / humiliated / degraded
human toilet
cross dressing / little sissy / sissy maid
being spit on
i can't belive i'm confessing this Mistress......but also forced bi
i can't help it Mistress , but i am not only into private humiliation, but public humiliation as well......and do indeed understand the seriousness of what i could be getting myself into, and the vulnerable position i could find myself in.
i have paid Mistress to do the above things to me for many years Mistress . Close to five years ago, i also experienced being owned completely, for close to eight months until my Mistress has to move back home to be with Her sick father. She had literally manipulated and blackmailed my entire life from me, and i had to pay Her on a weekly basis to not be exposed to my family, friends and co-workers what a toesniffing, cuckolded, cock sucking, human urinal and sissy maid She turned me into.
my entire body is trembling like You cannot even imagine right now Mistress . i already feel like i need to live debasing myself at Your Goddess Feet, under Your complete control so so desperately.
Your most sincere, most eager, complete and total slave?
I wrote him back with this:
you piteous wuss. if you are to become My slave you must begin to prove you are sincere. if you are to worship My feet then you must begin to care for them. I demand a pedicure and your first assignment as My slave is to deposit $100 into My paypal account at You must do this while wearing an apron to prove what a sissy little servant you are. I demand this must be done before 1pm tomorrow or you shall be punished. If you are able to follow these simple instructions and do as you are told then I might concider taking you as My slave.
Your Mistress
Since he is into public humiliation and obviously, likes to be blackmailed into not having his family find out, I thought that if this goes through and he makes the paypal deposit I will have him meet me at Petsmart. I am going to make him buy a pretty pink rhinestone dog collar, carry it to the counter in his mouth and tell the clerk that becaue he is no better than a dog, he has to wear a collar. I then am going to instruct him to put the pin kcollar around his ankle, where he must wear it always, to remind him of what a little wussy girl dog he is. I will be shopping casually at petsmart to observe, but not near him to avoid embarassing myself.
Is that too over the top?
I hope you don't mind me asking a few questions in your thread, Fancygirl.
What are other ways to publicly humiliate someone without embarassing youself or drawing a scene?
I have never done anythign like this before. Am I going about it the right way?
Thanks, and again, I hope you don't mind. I appriciate you bringing this up and giving me the idea. It might be the outlet I needed to move and get my life fixed.
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I'm a beginner as well. The only thing I can see first and foremost is that you're not his "mistress" until you claim him. Other than that it sounds fine-- you'll know whether he's serious about compensating you pretty quickly.
From what I picked up these types of guys are derided in the BDSM community because they use a domme as a cover to do all the sorts of stuff that they really want to but don't have the guts to do themselves.
They're serving their needs, not getting off on serving yours.
but, as long as you're getting financial slavery out of it then I don't see anything wrong with that.
Here are some sites I saw. I especially like the second one:
punishments:
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Honestly, I think you're doing a very good job.
But GIRL... you helped me find this: http://brisbane.craigslist.com.au/m4w/740955439.html
:drool:
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The only thing I can see first and foremost is that you're not his "mistress" until you claim him
ok...didn't know that. I just went with it because that is how he addressed me.
I figured they were serving their own needs, every human on this planet is driven by their own needs, as off as they may be. I truly do not understand how being a human toilet fullfills a need he has...but to each his own, I suppose.
So how do you work rewards/punishments? I mean, how far do you push thigns. If he does as he is instructed and puts the money in the paypal account, do I say good boy and praise him, mayeb offer him the reward of 1 picture of my freshly pedicured toes? Or do I say you feeble little fuck and put him down even more?
I never thought I could do this, but the more I think about it the more ideas I com eup with, I just dont know how far to push the line...liek makign him wear a tampon up his ass all day at work? making him put dogshit in his shoes and walking around in them all day? How far can you go? Since he likes public humiliation and the threat of family finding out, can I tell him that I plan on buyign a billboard with his name on it and telling the world what a pathetic toesniffing sissy he is..unless he makes my weekly payments?
Are these thigns to over the top, or am I on the right track for this type of person?
Thanks :) Maybe we can learn together and help each other out?
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^ don't let a PL choose how to address you! in fact, when you claim him in some circles you're supposed to give him a really embarassing new name. that way if/when you're just talking to him you use his real name. And when you are doing the erotica tearing him down, you use his bitch name.
it depends-- are you going to meet him in real life? I'm personally going to start out subtle like, "It's good to see you are taking your responsibilities to me seriously. This pleases me."
the things are only over the top if he says he likes, say the threat of ass play, and you immediately require him to wear a butt plug (I wouldn't do a tampon because I wouldn't be sure how must moisture that thing would suck up and you don't want to harm your sub.)
just start doing google searches like I have.
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Originally Posted by
Lysondra
Honestly, I think you're doing a very good job.
But GIRL... you helped me find this:
:drool:
I KNOW!!! I thought he was totally hot and I was going to forward him to you, but then I wasn't sure if you liked Black guys or not. Typically they don't turn me on, but this guy! hot DAMN!
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Originally Posted by
fancygirl
I KNOW!!! I thought he was totally hot and I was going to forward him to you, but then I wasn't sure if you liked Black guys or not. Typically they don't turn me on, but this guy! hot DAMN!
I don't care wtf race they are... you can be any race and still be motherfreakin' HOT. And boy oh boy is this man!!
I sent him an email for coffee and a tour of Brisbane.
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^ I agree. I just only ever had a melt-in-your-panties reaction to one other Black guy in my life, so I'm not saying they can't be attractive to me. Just most of them aren't (once again, to me.)
What happened to the guy with the eleven inch schlong?
edit: stop threadjacking. Help me out with my problem, yo!
p.s. I found the coolest shit yesterday for your package :D
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Originally Posted by
fancygirl
^ don't let a PL choose how to address you! in fact, when you claim him in some circles you're supposed to give him a really embarassing new name. that way if/when you're just talking to him you use his real name. And when you are doing the erotica tearing him down, you use his bitch name.
it depends-- are you going to meet him in real life? I'm personally going to start out subtle like, "It's good to see you are taking your responsibilities to me seriously. This pleases me."
the things are only over the top if he says he likes, say the threat of ass play, and you immediately require him to wear a butt plug (I wouldn't do a tampon because I wouldn't be sure how must moisture that thing would suck up and you don't want to harm your sub.)
just start doing google searches like I have.
He did sign his email with his name, although I didn't use it to address him because my first thought was...yoour to low of scum to be addressed with proper name. But I told him to send that paypal along with a picture of him wearing an apron as he did it by 1pm it's 10am and nothign yet. so we'll see....
Ps..that guy is hot. he looks like an actor and i cant think of who?
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a very young and intensely hot samuel L. jackson.
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Originally Posted by
fancygirl
I'm a beginner as well. The only thing I can see first and foremost is that you're not his "mistress" until you claim him. Other than that it sounds fine-- you'll know whether he's serious about compensating you pretty quickly.
I tried looking on craigslist in my area last night. Should I look outside of my area? Everyone I found was into that gay man on man or a dom (man) wanting a submissive woman. Eff that!
I want to add, that yea, black dude is SUPER hot! Lysondra if you have any relations with him, I'm gonna need for you to record/take pics please...
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Ok girls, I found one: But he is into some shit (no pun intended) that I dont' think I could ever do!
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cas/747323390.html
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Wow! I should dog ear this page for when I get a guy who wants to be dominated on the phone haha!!
The only advice I can give would be...since you don't know this guy....do you maybe want to meet him OTC instead of in the club? You could have a male friend meet you at say a bar or coffee shop or something...The only reason I say this is what if he turns out to be a deranged stalker and then he knows where you work right off the bat? I don't think this fetish tends to breed stalkers, but ya never know.
Wow, I really don't know! I deal with this over the phone and can talk a good game but I've never done this in person! All the best to you and keep us posted on how goes it!
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well, he never replied or filled my paypl account as instructed.>:( I sent him an email that said " I am very disappointed in you although I shouldn't be suprised that a worthless piece of shit troglydite like youself canot follow simple instructions. You have proved that you aren't even worth lickign the spit off the ground i walk on"
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Peanut_Butter
well, he never replied or filled my paypl account as instructed.>:( I sent him an email that said " I am very disappointed in you although I shouldn't be suprised that a worthless piece of shit troglydite like youself canot follow simple instructions. You have proved that you aren't even worth lickign the spit off the ground i walk on"
Maybe you should ignore him for a few days..he'll come back.
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Damn. You've got it nailed. He sounds great and you sound like the perfect Mistress!
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oh one thing I learned for someone who doesn't know a lot of demeaning words...thesarus. I type words liek sissy in the thesarus and use one of the words it gives me lol. I also googled insulting terms, and can thesarus those as well....
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This is an amazing coincidence. As I started to read the original post, it sounded very familiar and I realized I am the one with whom the original poster was corresponding over two years ago. Quite a surprise.
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OMG all this talk is driving me crazy! I think I've discovered my new passion!