ARGGG I HATE HTML and web design
This is a rant but it does have something to do with PP dancing. I'm attempting to start my own business and I bought a website and hosting and blah blah blah. But I can't use it to put content on my site. I went to the library and got creating web pages for dummies and read through it. OK I get enough of the HTML to get by and I can kinda put together a web page but how the f%^*^ do I take what I've created and put it on the website!?!?!?!? I'm so frustrated right now I could explode. I quit for the night. I'm going to bed F&^* my website lol.
Thanks for letting me complain and if anyone has even a smidgen of advice I will be forever in your debt.
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This is probably gonna get more responses in The Lounge and isn't REALLY realted to PP dancing so I'm gonna move it there :)
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You need a program to upload the content to your website. WHo is your host? have you read through their FAQS to see if they have a program to do it for you? if not their is lots you can download for free that will do the job... lol, look it up in the index of your book! I havent done it for ages so I cant remember exactly what its called, I am sure other more capable people can tell you, is it the FPS or something?
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You get a software program called an "ftp client." This stands for File Transfer Protocol client. The server where your web site is hosted is the ftp host. The computer from which you send the files is the ftp client.
If you google "ftp client," you will get back a list of sites from which you may download. Some will be commercial, some will be shareware, some will be freeware.
The ftp client I use is called "Fetch," and I am pretty happy with it. I have a Mac, but I am certain that Fetch is also available for Windows and Linux. It is a shareware program.
You can also get a free AOL account and use it as an ftp client, but it is a rather clunky interface and I do not recommend it except as a last resort.
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OKay.
First, hopefully you hosting co. is someone like GoDaddy or similar and they have a built in way to upload your content to your ftp. (that's the spot you load everything up so people can see it via the net.)
If your hosting co. does not have this feature;
1. they suck.
2. go find an ftp program, they're all over some good, some bad....Personally, I use dreamweaver to build websites (that's what I do for my full time job) and it has a way to upload your site.
Once you find a way to load your site up, you check it, make sure it appears the way you want, what you see on your comp is not always what you get when you look at it in the browser, make the needed changes and call it good. This is all really simplified here, but while it's a tad more complicated than I make it sound, it's still very easy to do.
If you would like, I have some time right now finishing up a site, I can talk you through the basics and get you pointed in the right direction.
Good luck! :)
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Here is another FTP client I used to use when I did web design. It's free and pretty simple to use.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/
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Originally Posted by
ExoticEngineer
OKay.
First, hopefully you hosting co. is someone like GoDaddy or similar and they have a built in way to upload your content to your ftp. (that's the spot you load everything up so people can see it via the net.)
If your hosting co. does not have this feature;
1. they suck.
2. go find an ftp program, they're all over some good, some bad....Personally, I use dreamweaver to build websites (that's what I do for my full time job) and it has a way to upload your site.
Once you find a way to load your site up, you check it, make sure it appears the way you want, what you see on your comp is not always what you get when you look at it in the browser, make the needed changes and call it good. This is all really simplified here, but while it's a tad more complicated than I make it sound, it's still very easy to do.
If you would like, I have some time right now finishing up a site, I can talk you through the basics and get you pointed in the right direction.
Good luck! :)
yay I have godaddy I'm just a re-re and can not for the life of me figure this out. I'm gonna go mess with it some more and see what I can do. Thanks for the help guys
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K, Log in.
Go the the drop down menu and under hosting and servers choose My Hosting account.
Choose your .com name and click manage account.
A new page will pop up called Hosting Control Cener, look for the tab called Contents, click that, under contents look for FTP Client. Click that.
That will open a a new page with two square windows in it, one window is your computer, one window is your ftp. It is here you can take files from your computer and place them inside your ftp.
*NOTE* Your web page must be in HTML format. Also, the first page that you want people to see should be saved as "index.html" That is the only way your server will know it is your main page.
Again, if you have any problems, drop me a line. Id be happy to help. I have a very slow day today.
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ExoticEngineer
Once you find a way to load your site up, you check it, make sure it appears the way you want, what you see on your comp is not always what you get when you look at it in the browser, make the needed changes and call it good. This is all really simplified here, but while it's a tad more complicated than I make it sound, it's still very easy to do.:)
You should use every browser you have to check how it looks, and also look at it from both PC and Mac. I do web pages for an organization which would not appreciate its name being mentioned on a stripper forum, and I had some pages I had worked on long and hard, and I was very proud of them.
I develop pages on my Mac, mostly using Seamonkey, but putting in some direct html from TexEdit when I need to do something Seamonkey won't do. I reviewed the pages with Seamonkey, Safari, Firefox, Camino, and Internet Explorer, and they all looked just great.
Then, by chance, one day at work I looked at my pages from a PC. Holy garbage, Batman! Font changes from Arial to Times New Roman, size changes, right in the middle of paragraphs! It looked horrible!
Turns out that it was the text the organization had sent me, which was originally written in Wordperfect on a PC. It had hidden characters that did nothing on a Mac, but changed fonts and styles on a PC.
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Ugh!!!! Mike, I hate that!!!
I'm on a Mac as well, and I learned that little lesson the hard way also! (After my client called me and said "WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO?!?!?"
Eeek!
So yah, check it out as much as you can before you call it done, if you need help seeing it in other browsers let us know, I use FireFox, Safari and have IE on my comp.
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^^ Well, I feel a little less stupid now that I know I am not the only one who has had this experience.
Do you recommend GoDaddy as a host? We are looking for another one because of billing support problems. Like, they let the domain name expire without notifying us that it was due, and their customer support is in India and provide more frustration than help. Their only virtue is that their servers never go down.
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Great advice so far (especially about checking other browsers). It looks like you're in good hands so far but if anyone gets stumped or busy feel free to hit me up. I've designed and programmed Web sites for more than 10 years (wow...kinda dates me) and have helped write books on this stuff (hrm, but don't think I'm a computer nerd or anything..HA!).
Ohhh, and good luck with this stuff :)
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UtahMike
^^ Well, I feel a little less stupid now that I know I am not the only one who has had this experience.
Do you recommend GoDaddy as a host? We are looking for another one because of billing support problems. Like, they let the domain name expire without notifying us that it was due, and their customer support is in India and provide more frustration than help. Their only virtue is that their servers never go down.
I provide hosting that is under the same network as GoDaddy, comparably priced too...or go through them. I highly recommend either one.
Would that be 1and1 hosting? I had a client recently who used them, it took me three days to get a problem fixed that could have been solved in an hour....
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Interland hosts the site and Network Solutions administers the domain name. Both setup by other parties years ago, I think because they supported Front Page. (I HATE Front Page!)
When the site disappeared, it took a week of calling Interland and talking to various places in India before they transferred me to a person who told me they did not administer the domain name at all. When I called Network Solutions, they wouldn't talk with me because I wasn't the person who set up the account seven years ago, who would have to authorize me to take it over. Unfortunately, he was gone, moved to another state, changed his email address, and nobody knows how to reach him. After a week of negotiations, finally I got permission to access the account and send them the fee to register the domain name again. By this time, the site had been down for two weeks, an eternity in cyberspace. Well, you could still access it by IP address, but what casual user would know how to do that?
The issue will not come up again for another six and a half years, but I can't guarantee that I will still be administering the web site then. Heck, I can't even guarantee that I will be alive seven years from now.
So I am looking for a host that will both provide hosting AND domain name management, and which has customer support based in the USA or maybe Canada. I'm not prejudiced against people in India; I just can't communicate with them when they provide tech support, and I think the obligation to communicate should be on their end.