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Dancer "friend" hustling your regular behind your back?
First of all I just have to say that I absolutely love this forum. I can get so much off my chest without the work gossip drama. :)
So, I've been dancing for a year. I don't go to work to make friends, but there is a girl that I became very close friends with(at least I thought). We would go to spas and do shopping days. You know things "girlfriends" like to do.
One weekend I got lucky at work late into my shift and met a poker player. He was cute, young, rich and generous with a WSOP bracelet. I even knew one of his poker dealer buddies from when I worked at a casino, so we hit it off very well. My "friend" was working with me that morning, but she wasn't able to hustle any of the other guys in the party. She kept telling me how cute she thought the poker player was. I ended up doing 3 hours VIP with him.
I usually work every weekend night, but one evening I was feeling under the weather. It was a Friday, but I decided to take it easy and not go into work. Being the good friend that I am I checked on my "friend" to see how her night was. All she said was "I did okay". My assumption was that she must have had a mediocre night."Okay" usually means $500 or less which really isn't that great for a Friday night in Vegas.
I ended going into work the following night. As soon as I stepped onto the floor I saw my poker cutie walk in with a group of his friends. Talk about great timing. I went up to him and grabbed his hand and he said "let's go to Celebrity". Woohoo! I thought. Then I saw my "friend" and she decided to walk up to us(which I thought was rude). There was an awkward silence and then she said "We hung out last night, heehee". She completely lied to me and I was in shock. I had mixed emotions of "Yay, I'm going to Celebrity Booth with my poker cutie" and "wow, this bitch just stabbed me in the back". I ended up being catty and said "well, he's hanging out with me tonight so you should just go away". Of course she walked away like a dog with its tail tucked under.
I found out later from him that they did 3 hours in VIP the night before. Yeah, just an "okay" night. That's $1200. Luckily, he did 4 hours with me that night so I didn't feel quite so bad. Of course this bottom feeder "friend" decided to repeatedly blow up my phone with textes while I was in VIP saying things like "he came back to the club just so see me you ruined my money". So, not only did she lie to me, she decided to attack me for making money off of my returning customer that she pounced on when I wasn't at work.
I know that I in no way claim complete territory on this customer, but feel like what she did was low and deceitful. In any "friendship" there should be honestly. I wouldn't had been so upset if she would had just told me that she hustled him instead of lying and saying she had an okay night.
So, should I write her off completely? I am so hurt and angry. I have thought of violent things that I want to do to her, which is really bad because I try to be a positive person.
I wonder what will happen if she pulls this shit with the wrong girl.
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Wow, that is crazy! How she said, "he came back to the club just so see me you ruined my money".
That is just - insane. I don't know what to tell you girl, but I do agree she is no friend!
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I personally think any customer in the club is fair game, but the fact that she would lie about it and approach you when you were with him is not acceptable!
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If you weren't there then who cares. She can get dances from him. How is it any different than some random girl getting the same amount of money. I also think it's okay for her to walk up to yall seeing as she knows you both. She also could have set up a date with him the previous night. I think you where the rude one first actually.
Why didn't you say "hey lets work together!" or something? It doesn't even sound like you gave her the chance to figure out what she was doing with the guy. If that where me I'd have pulled him aside to get a drink and asked him if he had changed his mind about seeing me, or try to get a double room. If he said he wasn't interested in me because you where there then I would have said "Thats okay! Maybe next time, have fun!" and let yall be. I'd be kind of pissed if you took him away from me if we had a previous agreement of CR's made when you weren't there. She could easily be making the same post you just did, only dissing you!
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Originally Posted by
Joplin
If you weren't there then who cares. She can get dances from him. How is it any different than some random girl getting the same amount of money. I also think it's okay for her to walk up to yall seeing as she knows you both. She also could have set up a date with him the previous night. I think you where the rude one first actually.
I agree, but why lie about it? That is the part that got me.
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Lying meaning just saying "I did okay". Maybe she didn't have time to talk or didn't feel like getting into numbers.
Did I miss some other lie?
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Originally Posted by
Joplin
If you weren't there then who cares. She can get dances from him. How is it any different than some random girl getting the same amount of money. I also think it's okay for her to walk up to yall seeing as she knows you both. She also could have set up a date with him the previous night. I think you where the rude one first actually.
Why didn't you say "hey lets work together!" or something? It doesn't even sound like you gave her the chance to figure out what she was doing with the guy. If that where me I'd have pulled him aside to get a drink and asked him if he had changed his mind about seeing me, or try to get a double room. If he said he wasn't interested in me because you where there then I would have said "Thats okay! Maybe next time, have fun!" and let yall be. I'd be kind of pissed if you took him away from me if we had a previous agreement of CR's made when you weren't there. She could easily be making the same post you just did, only dissing you!
My point is that she didn't tell me until she walked up to us about her being with him the night before. How could she just leave out the 3 hour VIP she did the night before when I talked to her before that night? I was caught off guard.
If he wanted to be with her I'm sure he would have turned me down regardless. He surely wouldn't had done a 4 hour VIP with me if he so badly wanted to see her.
This girl was suppose to be like my sister. My mother was in the hospital when all this took place(RIP Mom, I love you). I would cry my heart out to her and then she blatantly lied. Any type of dishonesty is wrong under ant circumstances.
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Maybe you haven't given the whole story, but if you only met him for one night I wouldnt count him as a regular, and i believe that if you werent in the club you can't expect him to sit around and not get dances from anyone because you arent there.
Also i don't think its really deceitful for her to not tell you how much she made, we are always going on about keeping that info to yourself here are we not?
Also you were a bit rude in your response to her, yet she shouldnt have kept textingyou allnight.
In short my opinion is you were both in the wrong, you just have to let it go. Keep your friendship outside of work, and agree that in the club you will both keep your heads down and make your money.
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Originally Posted by
Joplin
Lying meaning just saying "I did okay". Maybe she didn't have time to talk or didn't feel like getting into numbers.
Did I miss some other lie?
"Okay" isn't a $1200 night at my club. She freakin' lied.
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Originally Posted by
MissSeoulSista
My point is that she didn't tell me at any point up until she walked up to us about her being with him the night before. I was caught off guard.
If he wanted to be with her I'm sure he would have turned me down regardless. He surely wouldn't had done a 4 hour VIP if he so badly wanted to see her.
This girl was suppose to be like my sister. My mother was in the hospital when all this took place(RIP Mom, I love you). I would cry my heart out to her and then she blatantly lied. Any type of dishonesty is wrong under ant circumstances.
I seriously must have missed the part where she blatantly lied? You mean lying by omission?
You caught her off guard as well! She could have seen him and thought "sweet they came back to see me like they said they would!" and then you told her to piss off. I'm sure that caught her off guard coming from her "friend".
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pinkpvc
Maybe you haven't given the whole story, but if you only met him for one night I wouldnt count him as a regular, and i believe that if you werent in the club you can't expect him to sit around and not get dances from anyone because you arent there.
Also i don't think its really deceitful for her to not tell you how much she made, we are always going on about keeping that info to yourself here are we not?
Also you were a bit rude in your response to her, yet she shouldnt have kept textingyou allnight.
In short my opinion is you were both in the wrong, you just have to let it go. Keep your friendship outside of work, and agree that in the club you will both keep your heads down and make your money.
We always worked together and were open about our $$.
He did end up being a regular:)
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MissSeoulSista
"Okay" isn't a $1200 night at my club. She freakin' lied.
What if she was busy and didn't have time to get into how she made great money blah blah blah. If she had gotten all technical and said her exact amount would you not have asked her how she got it? Probably. Her money is none of your business.
Would you rather of had her blow off your question all together? Then tell you at the club? You'd still be pissy about it.
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MissSeoulSista
We always worked together and were open about our $$.
He did end up being a regular:)
When did this story take place? Two weekends doesn't make him a reg.
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Joplin
I seriously must have missed the part where she blatantly lied? You mean lying by omission?
You caught her off guard as well! She could have seen him and thought "sweet they came back to see me like they said they would!" and then you told her to piss off. I'm sure that caught her off guard coming from her "friend".
Alright, I'm not on this board to argue. Bottom line is that she came up after he decided to go to VIP with me. She wasn't in the equation until He and I already made that agreement.
If he was so badly wanting to see her and do another 3 hours of VIP I think he would had told me he wasn't interested.
And I didn't tell her to "piss off". I don't like it when words are put into my mouth. I told her "he's hanging out with me tonight so you should just go away". Yeah, I was rude. She was messing up my hustle.
I also don't think that it was "lying by omission". We had a very close friendship and told each other EVERYTHING. At least I thought.
This is all subjective obviously.
Thanks for your honest opinions. :)
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Imagine if she had came to you and said "I made $1200 from that poker guy!!!". I I bet you would be equally as pissed off (or she thought you would be anyway). I think she does value your friendship and thats why she kept it to herself.
Seriously I wouldn't throw your friendship away over this.
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Joplin
When did this story take place? Two weekends doesn't make him a reg.
It was a couple months ago actually and he came back to see me 4 times after that. Yeah, I consider that a regular. Maybe I'm not a seasoned pro that has guys coming in every week, but if I have a guy dropping over a $1000 3-4 times in a two month span I consider him a regular.
You're right I stand corrected. At that point in time he wasn't yet my "regular". He was in the process of becoming one.
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Why are you still even thinking about this?
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Joplin
Why are you still even thinking about this?
Well since you so badly want to know about my thoughts and emotions....
I just started posting on this board and haven't really vented about this situation so I thought it would be healthy, even after 2 months to discuss it. I question myself sometimes because I've only been dancing a year. I know that I may encounter friction of this nature in the future and I want to know if I'm over-reacting or not. I am respectful to other dancers at work, but I feel like she has been disrespectful to me.
Also, she has done similar acts of this nature recently. She takes advantage of my kindness and often will come up to me and a customer while I'm trying to sell to tail off of me and my money. I think it's wrong to interrupt a girl when she's selling, even if she's my "friend"(yes I like to use quotations).
Maybe I shouldn't have posted this on here because none of your really know the dynamic of our friendship. It's hypothetical, but maybe I would have still been upset if she would had told me the details of her night with the poker cutie.
Thanks for helping me see things from both sides.
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Straight up, be wary of friendships made inside of the club and establish them outside of them. Don't take things w/ 'club friends' personally, because if you're working smart then you're working for the money. Just re-affirm your goals and your reasons for being a dancer in the first place.
The biggest danger is that your hustle may have been thrown off by this. Especially working in Vegas, you have to be focused and not let your 'real' self interfere with your hustling abilities.
Good luck.
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anomar
Straight up, be wary of friendships made inside of the club and establish them outside of them. Don't take things w/ 'club friends' personally, because if you're working smart then you're working for the money. Just re-affirm your goals and your reasons for being a dancer in the first place.
The biggest danger is that your hustle may have been thrown off by this. Especially working in Vegas, you have to be focused and not let your 'real' self interfere with your hustling abilities.
Good luck.
You're right girl. I need to stop wearing my heart on my sleeve.
Thanks for the advice.
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that's pretty lame of you both. You two can't share a regular? I have a small group of friends at my club, and sometimes we get money from each others regulars, will share regulars and do champagne rooms together, etc. For example, my one friend has a good reg that pays her just to sit, 500+ dollars once a week. She has introduced him to her work friends, and usually 2 or 3 of the rest of us will do lap dances for him (when he asks) and get around 100 dollars from him, while our friend is freed up to work the room for other dances if she wants. If her reg came in and bought dances from us when she wasn't there, it would be no big deal.
I don't see why you couldn't have just hustled him together, esp. since he has plenty of money. Also, you don't know-maybe when you weren't there, HE asked her for the vips. Sounds to me like YOU are the shitty friend for being so rude when you friend came over to say hello.
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NewMoon
I personally think any customer in the club is fair game, but the fact that she would lie about it and approach you when you were with him is not acceptable!
i agree with what she said!!
seriously! if i were to hustle my girlfriends regular while she wasnt there, she wouldnt mind at all, but i would *neverrr* LIE about it thats fucking shady!!
honestly speaking, i would probably greet the customer and you, but then i would on go on about my business!!!!!!
me and my girlfriends share regulars because we both know we need $$, we know not to get salty at one another!
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Starfire
that's pretty lame of you both. You two can't share a regular? I have a small group of friends at my club, and sometimes we get money from each others regulars, will share regulars and do champagne rooms together, etc. For example, my one friend has a good reg that pays her just to sit, 500+ dollars once a week. She has introduced him to her work friends, and usually 2 or 3 of the rest of us will do lap dances for him (when he asks) and get around 100 dollars from him, while our friend is freed up to work the room for other dances if she wants. If her reg came in and bought dances from us when she wasn't there, it would be no big deal.
I don't see why you couldn't have just hustled him together, esp. since he has plenty of money. Also, you don't know-maybe when you weren't there, HE asked her for the vips. Sounds to me like YOU are the shitty friend for being so rude when you friend came over to say hello.
Yeah, maybe I was the shitty friend. I don't feel any remorse for my actions.
I don't think that who asked who to go to VIP is relevant IMO.
His friend that was in VIP with us that night told me that she saw him go to the bathroom and was waiting for him in his seat when he came back. I doubt he approached her asking her to go to VIP with him.
I follow my instinct at work and I don't think that he wanted two girls.
Actually, one of the following nights he brought the both of us back to Celebrity and said "I don't know which one of your girls to pick, I can't pay for you both". He didn't want to fork out $4000 on the both of us I guess. Luckily, he decided to do another 4 hour VIP with me that night.
Ick, this is exhausting. I have to go run errand. Thanks for your input.
Ciao.
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I just wanted to add that just because she said she did "ok" doesn't mean she lied. she just didn't feel like sharing with you. I have a very close friend that dances at the same club as I do... at the end of the night sometimes she'll ask how I did and usually I say "I did alright(or something to that effect)." even when maybe I did great that night... because I don't wanna come off as I'm boasting, esp if she had a bad night.
regardless... she shouldn't have to share every detail with you... I don't see how she "lied" in that situation.
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i see as her trying to poach your potentially new customer. that is why she was being vague (did ok) i dont think you did anything wrong.
so what if he went with her one night. he immediately went off with you the next time without hesitation. customers say stuff all the time they dont mean. maybe he was just telling her he would be back to see her to not be rude. if he really meant it he would have said so or taken you both back!
you owe her nothing. hustling with others alot of times turns out badly or with hurt feelings.