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^There's a really hot girl at my club who never approaches anyone, she waits for them to come to her, always.
She sells like, MAYBE one dance a night. If she's lucky.
Honestly as a customer I would not want to have to approach a dancer. It's kind of like if I go into a store and I want to spend $ but the sales person isn't trying to help sell their product, I leave. I went to Mac last week with the intention of buying three new brushes. I kept trying to figure out which ones I wanted and no one came over to help me or offer me advice. I got annoyed and left, went to Sephora and bought some Nars ones instead.
People work hard for their money. They don't want to give it away to someone for free.
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audrey_k
^There's a really hot girl at my club who never approaches anyone, she waits for them to come to her, always.
She sells like, MAYBE one dance a night. If she's lucky.
Honestly as a customer I would not want to have to approach a dancer. It's kind of like if I go into a store and I want to spend $ but the sales person isn't trying to help sell their product, I leave. I went to Mac last week with the intention of buying three new brushes. I kept trying to figure out which ones I wanted and no one came over to help me or offer me advice. I got annoyed and left, went to Sephora and bought some Nars ones instead.
People work hard for their money. They don't want to give it away to someone for free.
Really? I'm the opposite. I hate being talked to in the store. If I need help I will ask the sales person but I hate when I walk in and they say hi to me or ask if i need any help or even if they just look at me when i'm trying to shop.
Same thing in the club, when i go in as a customer i sit by the stage and tip because i know girls cant bug me if im on the stage. when i find a girl i like i go up to her. I would hate to be approached by girls i dont want and have to reject them. if only all customers worked this way, it would be so much easier...well for the hot girls at least lol.
then again i probably have social anxiety
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^If I tell the sales person I don't want help and they're still pestering me, I leave the store. But if no one is asking me if I need help while I'm looking at their brushes for ten minutes, fuck that.
I don't know, maybe a couple times a week guys approach me for dances? While I'm talking to them they'll ask me for dances, but with the current dancer to customer ratio at most clubs there is going to be a race to get to the customer, they're not going to bother having to go up to a girl when they've got every other girl in the club going after them.
And do you buy 1 dance.... or an hour VIP?
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I'm sure top earners on here will say they are the best looking girls at the club, and girls who don't earn as much will say that top earners aren't the best looking, and that they are better looking. It's all subjective.
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I'm a top earner in my club and I don't find myself to be the hottest girl, even though 90% of the people I speak to tell me that I'm the hottest girl in the club. The managers and DJ seem to compliment me on this as well. I really think its because I take care of my body and have natural D cup boobs and a very small waist. My looks are pretty standard and appealing to mostly everyone so that's a plus.
My earnings don't come from how beautiful I am but how well I hustle. I don't take breaks, I don't sit in back and chat with other girls, I don't go up after the first no and I speak to everyone in the room until someone gets up and gets a dance with me. I always have the most dances on the dance sheet and I'm pretty sure this equates to the most money because I charge double for a dance (my club offers $20 dances and I charge $40).
Most of the girls I work with are very attractive. There are only a few handful that are gross and none of them last.
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As someone who represents all types of girls, I voted no. I have a few really hot girls who honestly don't have to try that hard to make good money. But most of my average looking girls make just as much because they work hard.
Sometimes I am blown away when I talk to my girls who are working at the same club and they report exactly the same #'s, when I don't think (going by looks) it should be close at all!
I am quite careful to not take on hotties that don't work hard at my agency, because what club really needs that? So, I have always felt that even my really pretty girls are down to earth and friendly hustlers. But, the reports just prove that the average looking girl can have a bigger and better hustle!
I don't think it is necessarily because the guy thinks he has a better chance to bring her home, I just think they may relate to them more. If a pretty girl can't be friendly or make a guy believe that she is really into him, then there is no point in spending money on her.
OH, and I also have 1 average looking girl that rocks the stage and that is usually most of her $. She has made $700 in two songs on stage before. I have only done that a few times in my 15 years of dancing!!!!!
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i was a top earner when i was a chubby fat chick with short hair, and lost alot of weight with grown out hair. i think it really is attitude and swagger, truthfully.
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Here's the saddest thing ever: The top earners at my club were always the best dancers, most likely the best looking but definitely the best entertainers. Like, we really put on a show and guys would be lining up for us to get dances.
BUT NOW: We have VIP rooms with curtains, no cameras, and no matter how hard you dance your little heart out, the nastiest chicks on the planet are filling up the board and raking it in :(
Just last week this guy tipped me a 20 on stage but before I could say thank you a girl was whispering in his ear with her hand on his crotch.
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peachplumpear
Here's the saddest thing ever: The top earners at my club were always the best dancers, most likely the best looking but definitely the best entertainers. Like, we really put on a show and guys would be lining up for us to get dances.
BUT NOW: We have VIP rooms with curtains, no cameras, and no matter how hard you dance your little heart out, the nastiest chicks on the planet are filling up the board and raking it in :(
Just last week this guy tipped me a 20 on stage but before I could say thank you a girl was whispering in his ear with her hand on his crotch.
.....were the best. It IS fucking sad, sad, sad. What ever happened to super babes?? These guys' version of a hot dancer is pathetic these days. The more c-section scars, fat nasty asses, jail tattoos, track marks, rotten teeth or whatever the better....or at least it seems in MY town. Oh and don't forget the beer gut. Don't forget the horrible out-of-rhythm ass shaking wannabe video ho dancing on stage...or just the bad dancing in general.
I'm sorry if I might have offended anyone but this is how I feel. Being in shape, having good skin, nice hair, nice teeth, smelling good and being drug-free never did me any favors. Oh and don't forget I played "lame ass" music (meaning anything but rap) and wouldn't let a guy smell my asshole for a $1. Yeah, I'm the worst.
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This thread got me thinking about the girls I've worked with. I guess I'll list some girls that stand out as top earners to me.
Two were in their upper 40s. One of these is probably THE top earner in the city, though I think she's starting to phase out of dancing now.
One was a total butterface. Most amazing perfect large natural boobs ever, nice cute body, but a fugly face. Thick eyebrows, hawkish nose, small crooked teeth, small mouth. Worked extremely hard, super stripper to the nth degree.
One I didn't think was bad looking, but when my bf saw her he said he couldn't believe how ugly she was. Dumb as a box of rocks, blond hair, thin for the most part except for her ass which if you looked at a pic of her ass only you would think it belonged to someone weighing 250 lbs.
One was very tall, cute face and nice body, personality for days. Not shy at all and always looked like she was having a great time even if she wasn't.
The one thing they all have in common is that they are hustlers and when they ask for dances they expect the guys to say yes.
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Not always. It's based more on their hustle than anything.
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peachplumpear
Here's the saddest thing ever: The top earners at my club were always the best dancers, most likely the best looking but definitely the best entertainers. Like, we really put on a show and guys would be lining up for us to get dances.
BUT NOW: We have VIP rooms with curtains, no cameras, and no matter how hard you dance your little heart out, the nastiest chicks on the planet are filling up the board and raking it in :(
Just last week this guy tipped me a 20 on stage but before I could say thank you a girl was whispering in his ear with her hand on his crotch.
So tired of girls sitting with guys at the tip rail and taking the attention away. Like I go up to them and have to get right up in their face for a tip and then the girl looks pissed. I know it's slow but that just seems so crappy to me. But that could be my fault for not being good enough on stage to get and hold his attention.
One thing to consider I think is that a top earner may be the best looking for what she has to offer, as in, she fills her niche, like the best at looking like the girl next door, the best milf, the best big booby blonde, the best classy dame, and so on. I think knowing what niche you fill and matching your hustle to that makes a difference. I do well for where I am because I can match my look to a few hustles depending on what they want. Intelligent and classy, cute and innocent but naughty, whatever they are looking for. I am petite and have a chin length red bob so the hustle of a big boobed blonde would never work but by knowing what I have to offer I can often get the attention of a guy even if he likes that kind of look just by making him want to try something different.
Basically I've just noticed that combining this concept with the other basics of good hustling (talk to everyone, be agressive and so on) works so much more for me than just being hot and I've noticed that it works well for our top earners regardless of their appearance.
Does that even make sense?
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^ good post. Know your niche!
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In my experience with most clubs, the consistent top sellers do tend to also be some of the hottest girls there. I'm not talking about any particular type or look, hotness comes in a wide variety of flavors.
Also, most girls probably don't know who the real top earners are because no one really knows what customers are handing over in cash ;)
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^ often the top earners are the ones who aren't bragging about their money in the locker room at the end of the night, like the supposed top earners do!
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I've worked almost exclusively in upscale "show" clubs with reasonably low contact -- places where the only means of differentiating oneself are looks and/or hustle/personality. I've found the highest earners to be a combination of the prettiest with best sales skills. As for myself, I've never been THE top earner, but I've always been damn near the top. I'm pretty in an exotic way, hourglass figure, etc....but what really makes me money is that I present a sophisticated, intelligent demeanor. Guys know right away that time spent with me isn't cheap :)
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Prisoner201181
Top earners are usually a little more like conventional looking, I mean they have better universal appeal. They also aren't so goofy like me, but I can't help it when I get nervous I just get like that. I'm such a bad hustler! If I could overcome my self-confidence issues I'd be a million times better, but its not always so easy!
For my club its also hard to say who is the top earner. I think the money fluctuates a lot for most of the girls, so on a given night the top earners might be different. There are the whores, but I wont talk about them because what they are selling and who they are selling to is a different from the dancers IMO. The girls on good terms with one of the waitresses will come out on top if the waitress hooks them up with the correct customer for the night... but i have seen these same girls go home broke or in the negatives (not make tip out) many times when they dont have her to fall back on... I'm actually not completely sure that half of the girls who the waitress helps actually have hustle skills; i think they get by on having her help them. There are two girls who always bank at my club, both are among the hottest. One is super friendly and perky. The other one is almost definitely the best looking. She is also one of the most pushy and cutthroat girls and I have seen her do some dishonest things such as outright lie about how many dances the customers owe her for or in another case take a lot of money out of the atm from a stupid drunk customers bank card.
As far as looking more conventional: all i can say on this matter is as soon as i spent money to stripperize my look with the fake hair and fake tan, my earnings went up and I didnt have to work as hard to make sales. So people shouldnt be so quick to dismiss looks as a factor in earnings... its not the only factor but it definitely is a significant one.
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ViolaStrings
^ often the top earners are the ones who aren't bragging about their money in the locker room at the end of the night, like the supposed top earners do!
Like the ones who claim they NEVER make less than a grand? LOL
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Lately I have definately been one of the top earners, even if not THE top earner every single night. When I started I was making nowhere near what I make now even though I looked almost identical. In fact, I think I look very plain (not ugly, just average). Like when I'm out on the town with my dancer friends I always feel like everyone looks much more stripperized than me, and I don't get looked at or hit on nearly as much. Also, I see girls that I would love to look like consistently go home with less than me. Therefore, I think hustle is the most important factor.
While I never mention my earnings (and even downplay them when asked) it is unfortunately starting to get noticed more and more at work. If you do well I would definately recommend trying to keep it quiet for as long as possible. Jealous girls will just cause you trouble. For me, they are starting to say I dance dirty even though I KNOW I am one of the cleanest dancers there, and guys routinely stop dances with me because I don't allow what is now common in my club.
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BuxomBeauty
Like the ones who claim they NEVER make less than a grand? LOL
Those are my favorite.
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It all varies at my club. Most of the top earners are dirtier on private dances than the other girls are. I am a good earner (not the top) and all I do is "wannadance." I hardly ever sit with a custy, unless I already know them. I am very nice and friendly, plus I smile, which is NOT common at my club. I am one of the best looking girls at my club, in the top 5 at least, and I have a good body, but not the best. There are at least 4 or 5 girls with a better body than me, and 3 or 4 with a body just as good as mine. If I rule out the the extra girls, and the dancers who give "discount" dances all the time, then yes most of the top earners were the best looking. When I think of the top 5 earners, 3 of them are the best looking. The other 2 are really good hustlers and are friendly and constantly sitting with custies. They are not the worst looking dancers, but they are not very pretty and do not have very nice bodies either. The other 2 top earners only give air dances. They definetely have the best bodies and the prettiest face. I know I could sell more if I hustled better.
I think that personality is far more important than looks however. Hotter girls tend to do a "wannadance" hustle better, but at most clubs they were not the top earners.
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I've actually been told by guys that they're afraid that I'll take all of their money and some of the other girls don't. I made money easier when I was a little chunky after quitting smoking too. I think attainable is best. Also someone mentioned girls that just looked dirty...how do I do that lol?
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BuxomBeauty
Like the ones who claim they NEVER make less than a grand? LOL
those are prossies! ;)
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^ even whores don't make a grand every night.