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The only reason to get dances is because you wanted the dances. Period. Don't buy dances because you're trying to impress her or trying to get her phone number.
There's only two reasons a girl will give you her number
A) she genuinely likes you or
B) she's cultivating you as a regulat
If its A she'll make sure you get her number, you won't have to ask. Don't hold your breath though it's extremely unlikely to happen
If its B you don't want to ask for her number, it gives away what little power you hold in the situation. If you ask she knows you're hooked and she can do what she will. Wait for her to offer the number, if she wants you as a regular she eventually will. Once you have it don't call, again you're ceding what little power you have. Wait a bit, let her make the first contact. Yeah it's pretty Machiavellian but what do you have to lose. There will always be another dancer if things don't work out.
Unless she is giving you the number to ask her out OTC, throw away any numbers you get and never give your own phone number away. You will quickly become a regular for her and she will slowly but surely erode any power you think you have without you even knowing it
I have one dancer's number. To plan club visits around her unpredictable schedule and my unpredictable availability. She offered the number after a few visits.
We've since become friends and have an occasional lunch together, and I still use the number to plan club visits, but I wouldn't classify this as "OTC" as typically discussed here.
We all might kid ourselves about what having a dancer's number means. It means you've got her phone number. Wow.
You guys have to remember that you have the money which means you have the power to decide if you spend or not. Strippers are a dime a dozen why would you give them power over you like that? If you are not getting what you want then find one who is willing to provide it.
I have phone numbers from five dancers in four different states on my cell. Comes in quite handy when I'm making a long trip and want to know what so and so's work schedule is.
And to think I failed to do some overwrought analysis of why these women gave me their numbers, or forgot that I was somehow bequeathing "whatever power I thought I had" by accepting them. Sheesh.
A lot of dancers give me their numbers, sometimes dancers will want to talk/try to establish me as a regular and what not but it usually never lasts. I've always ended up deleting their numbers from my phone.
I have a bunch of dancer's phone numbers. Its not because I am a stud, far from it, or because I an loaded with cash. Its because I want to come back and see the girl but I have to leave at that moment. These girls have really crazy schedules, so its good to know when a familiar face is working. I'm not looking for OTC, merely to come in, see a familiar face, and have a good time ITC. The girls are looking for regulars. I can understand that.
In the two numbers I got this week, we were getting ready to leave in both scenarios. The first one gave it to me with no dances, however, due to the group I was in (which included a dancer from another club), I think I got the benefit of the doubt. I went back to see her several times already. I still haven't called her, though, we have been texting back and forth, strictly on an up and up level. The other gave me one dance and was using her number to try and get me to come back. I get that.
I lose all my power when I walk in the front door of the club. It's like Samson getting a hair cut.
OP- you should ask the ladies on the pink side in customer conversation this question. They are a good source of information on what it takes to get their numbers and real names.
With the availability of club message boards, dancer web sites etc one would think that the gals would consider those to be an excellent way to post their schedules at their clubs. A couple of years ago, my former home club set up a pretty good web site with sections dedicated to each dancer. I was a moderator there and worked with the admin to try and encourage the dancers to post their schedules so that their regulars and interested customers could see when they would be working. It was an abject failure. We couldn't get the dancers to commit to posting their schedules or to get those few who would post to actually work those schedules. Lesson learned.
After that experience it became clear that the best way for customers and dancers to plan time together at the club is to just exchange cell numbers and be done with it. Dancer schedules can be flaky but sometimes us customers have other stuff that comes up too at the last minute.
FBR
I'm probably not the right person to be answering this as I am sure I am atypical.
I carry a PPC on which are about 200 dancers names and contact info [mostly phone numbers]. I frequently add to them when in various clubs in my region.
Candidly I do it for two reasons. In most cases they are dancers I have recruited to potentially work our private parties which we host about five times a year and/or to follow up for potential webcam work for our www.webcamstaffing.com service.
In the very small minority of them they are dancers who have caught my fancy who I wish to see outside of their clubs.
Very rarely do I allow any cross over. I mean VERY rarely, because it is a potential pitfall. Since I wouldn't hire dancers for the private parties we host that I have seen OTC, either commercially or off the clock, if the dancer desires to work the PPs I put her monetary concerns before my own and seeing her becomes something that could only happen if she decides she no longer wants to work the PPs any longer [cross over on the webcam biz isn't an issue as there is no way for people to claim favoritism in that environment].
It doesn't come up often though. Maybe twice in the couple of years since I've been doing the PP thing.
Anyway, the point I wanted to make in posting this is I have found that if one is their natural selves and has any kind of personality they can put behind a confident exterior quite a few dancers, if not most, will part with their digits because they want repeat customers and don't mind sharing a contact point with someone they don't believe to be potential trouble. And you will find many more, certainly than would be indicated by any reading here, that are willing to see you off campus. Even if it is only in a commercial mode [though how many are willing to make it a little more personal than that is surprising as too -well, it was for me anyway].
When they have been offered, I turn down phone numbers from dancers. I have only received a phone number once and it was only because said dancer grabbed my phone and punched her number into my cell after some dances. Deleted it after I left the club.
I also don't give out my own phone number. The one only exception was with an ol' ATF dancer on the eve of her retirement and entry into the real world.
I'm just not a fan of being cultivated as a regular. I don't want to have to bother with a dancer calling me in to see her when it's slow, etc. If I happen to become a regular over time that's fine. But I can't help but feel like there's some underlying responsibility when numbers are exchanged.
Um...I've probably got about thirty dancer's phone numbers and email addresses. It's no big deal. I'm a middle aged married guy, they know I am just looking for dances or maybe a little OTC fun and they know that I am going to spend money on them. In the 21st century email, texting, cell calls etc are all marketing tools. Getting dancer's contact info doesn't make you special, it makes you a prospect.
As for giving them my number? Sure, once I determine that the lady is not a clingy psycho who is going to call me all the time I have no problem with it. Email as well.
None of this is an issue if you stick with level headed women who are simply trying to make a living and understand that you are just trying to have some fun.
Hobby phone? LMAO, I have a private cell phone. No one has access to my VM or even my keyboard without a password.
If you go to a strip club looking for girlfriends you will get taken advantage of... and deservedly so...
In this case you would have to define exactly who big brother is and why he is worried about my phone conversations. Talking to strippers is not illegal. Talking to escorts isn't even illegal. I understand the concept behind the prepaid cell, I just don't buy into it.
I thought hobby phones were for hiding from the wife, not the government.
Nonetheless, I don't have a wife to hide my activities from, so my regular phone is my hobby phone.
Me too. And from the dancer perspective. Ive never asked for a customers phone number. Ive been given many and have called few. I dont go around giving my number to every Tom Dick and Harry I see. Usually its because we 'clicked' and he was super cool. This is probably why I dont have regulars :'(
QFT. it kills me when PLs make a big deal over a stripper's real or fake phone number. get a life!
LOL..huh? you mean, like a litter of pups left on your door step? it's just a number, BL.
or worse, a suspicious wife with PI and a divorce attorney on a leash ready to crawl up your lower colon.