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Re: Asking to touch in non-forbidden areas?
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Originally Posted by
Otoki
Keep a few things in mind. One, those lines are probably lies to make you feel good about yourself (and thus want to get dances with them next time).
Two, if you "push the envelope" when you have already gotten explicit rules, you are being an asshole. If you experiment by touching without getting explicit rules, you are obviously hoping that you happen to get a dancer who allows touching, whether or not the club allows it.
Three, trying to touch and then stopping if the dancer indicates discomfort doesn't make you a good customer. It makes you someone who doesn't want their ass kicked by the enormous bouncer. If you were a good custie, you would ASK first, and NOT try touching if that was already said to be forbidden.
Four, DO NOT go by what you see happening around you. Some dancers are more comfortable with contact than others. Sometimes, these higher-contact dancers are breaking the rules, while other times the lower-contact dancers are simply not comfortable allowing the amount of contact considered acceptable by the club. Each dancer has different boundaries, and the only way to know what they are is by asking, VERBALLY, what she allows.
Bless your little black heart. I adore you..
Touching. I absolutely LOVE IT - when my customers ask me before hand - or ask me what MY rules are. I am not above breaking fingers, smacking or taking a man to school on what NOT to do.
Yes, I am here to arouse men and entertain them - which by the way I do quite well. What I am not there to do is be made uncomfortable or have my night at work disrupted or made into a horrible fiasco by a man that thinks he can do whatever he wants because he did not ask before hand. Ignorance is not an excuse. :) Forgive me, but I have hygiene issues.;)
As for the hair touching.. Some women wear weave, wigs and a whole host of assorted fake hair bits.
The foot thing is just ugh. Would you really want to put your hands on someones stinky feet after they have been in stripper shoes for any length of time? Ew.. Oh wait, I'm so sorry. You guys don't wash your hands after exiting the bathroom. I forgot.::)
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^^I definitely don't mind having them touch my hair gently. I also don't mind most fetishes as long as I am getting paid well and there are no bodyfluids involved. My favorite fetishists are the masochists and foot fetishists. Beating someone for money? Sign me up. Getting paid to get a foot massage? Hell yes. Touching any part of my body during a dance? NO.
It just goes to show that we all have very different preferences. If anyone assumed I was The same as Crow or she was the same as me there would be a lot of injured customers.
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I went to a club in Colorado Springs some years back and a girl anced for me for I don't know how many songs. She might may have danced 15 or 20 songs in a row and if I remember correctly without ever sitting down to talk to me, although she may have sat on me during a couple songs. This was a full nude club and she basically placed her body against mind and wriggled for an hour even grinding regularly on my legs as I was lying down on the couch. This might sound sort of gross but my jeans were as dirty as if I had just left a construction job or something after being fresh out of the laundry.
I kind of knew this girl as I had met her at a friends party previously and she appeared to be a very light skinned african american girl. Do some of you girls wear body makeup to hide blemishes? This girl was definitely well groomed so I am not implying she was dirty.
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Re: Asking to touch in non-forbidden areas?
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Originally Posted by
worldfamoustoddyepthatguy
she appeared to be a very light skinned african american girl.
What do you mean by that?
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I didn't meant to imply any negativity. I was just saying that after laying all over me and grinding my legs she left my jeans very dirty and I was wondering if she might have been wearing body makeup that may have made her appear lighter than she actually was.
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Re: Asking to touch in non-forbidden areas?
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worldfamoustoddyepthatguy
I didn't meant to imply any negativity. I was just saying that after laying all over me and grinding my legs she left my jeans very dirty and I was wondering if she might have been wearing body makeup that may have made her appear lighter than she actually was.
Sorry I misread your post.
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i always took it poorly if a customer wanted to touch an area that was technically not forbidden. customers who sat there and relied on technicalities to push my limits were not customers who got my best dance experience.
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miabella
i always took it poorly if a customer wanted to touch an area that was technically not forbidden. customers who sat there and relied on technicalities to push my limits were not customers who got my best dance experience.
I can not fathom an air dance being a "best dance experience"; that's what a stage dance is and only costs a dollar.
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Originally Posted by
Earl_the_Pearl
I can not fathom an air dance being a "best dance experience"; that's what a stage dance is and only costs a dollar.
She didn't say anything about air dancing. And stage dances only cost a dollar if you're a cheapskate. Just sayin'.
In fact, if you take your argument farther, you should be unhappy with anything short of fucking. So the solution is for you to go to a prostitute and give HER your money, and you'll be happy that your money was well spent, and we'll be happy that we didn't have to deal with some guy complaining about our dancing not being the "best dance experience".
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Re: Asking to touch in non-forbidden areas?
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Originally Posted by
Otoki
She didn't say anything about air dancing. And stage dances only cost a dollar if you're a cheapskate. Just sayin'.
She said:
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Originally Posted by
miabella
i always took it poorly if a customer wanted to touch an area that was technically not forbidden.
If a PL can't even touch places that are OK that is an air dance.
I can tip a dollar or a thousand and you will think me a PL. I won't tip a thousand for an air dance that is for sure. No honey = no money. ;)
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Originally Posted by
Earl_the_Pearl
She said:
If a PL can't even touch places that are OK that is an air dance.
Wrong. No touching from the customer's side makes it a light contact dance. An air dance means no contact from either the dancer or customer.
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I can tip a dollar or a thousand and you will think me a PL. I won't tip a thousand for an air dance that is for sure. No honey = no money. ;)
Again, wrong. When someone only tips me a dollar while sitting at the rail for my whole stage set, he's an asshole (or ignorant, but the effect is the same). If someone tips me more, they're showing me basic SC-style respect. if you don't want to pay more than a dollar for a girl dancing on stage, don't sit at the rail.
I would not assume any customer is a PL unless they act like one. It's pretty obvious from your posts that you would. Just because you act like an asshole in a SC doesn't mean that other people should act that way, and it sure as shit doesn't mean that strippers should act APPRECIATIVE of your attitude towards us. Like I said before, if you want the most bang for your buck, go to a prostitute. They make an honest living, too, and that way you won't be bothering a stripper by trying to get her to do shit she's not comfortable with.
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Re: Asking to touch in non-forbidden areas?
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Originally Posted by
Otoki
Again, wrong. When someone only tips me a dollar while sitting at the rail for my whole stage set, he's an asshole (or ignorant, but the effect is the same).
Point of order; in New Jersey most placed don't have tip rails only a bar. That is where I have to sit.
There are at times over 20 dancers parading for dollars and only 5 customers. A dancer could hit me up for a dollar every five minuets. If I tipped them every time they held out their bra strap I would blow $100 in twenty five minuets and not see a nipple.
At the end of the night dancers like that will think the same of the faceless PL if I tipped one or 100 dollars.
I take umbrage with your statement.
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Originally Posted by
Otoki
...you won't be bothering a stripper by trying to get her to do shit she's not comfortable with.
I NEVER try to get a dancer to do anything she does not want to do. I do live by a No Honey/No Money code as I am not a total PL. I am welcome in, even called to, SC by those that know me. On a good night I will have three dancers sitting with me at the bar, they don't think I am bothering them.
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I tell people not to"... touch the triangle of death, I've seen lesser men just spontaneously combust when they did so its for their own safety, really," and I'm all dramatic and silly about it. They usually laugh and say "Thanks, I would hate for that to happen to me too."
I work in a very high contact club, so I wish that people just wanted to touch my feet and hair lol. Last night I saw a girl (skanky prostitute) keep putting her nipple in a guys mouth and guy asked if I was going to let him. I've dealt with this before. I either say, "no, look at the girl he's got and now look at the one you got, trust me I don't have to do that to turn you on." although last night the girl was rather fat so my response was to ask if he wanted to put her beer gut in his mouth too, with a big smile on my face the whole time and then coveded my mouth like I had been naughty for saying that and told him I was tipsy. Then I changed the subject and snuggled while we waited for the next song.
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pogocat
I tell people not to"... touch the triangle of death, ...
"Triangle of death"; is there something you want to tell us?
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Re: Asking to touch in non-forbidden areas?
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Originally Posted by
kittytheflamingo
I don't mind guys asking, and hair and feet don't bother me. However, every girl is different. I'd much rather someone ask so they know if they can or not, rather than wondering or trying w/out asking.
Exactly. We are all different! I hate the "Well I'm from _______ and we do this there" and just that whole mentality. Each one of us is different. Treat us as such and you will be in the clear. Every club and every dancer is different. Asking and being polite is the best route any guy could take! :)
It's all about respect.
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Re: Asking to touch in non-forbidden areas?
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Christyismyalias
Exactly. We are all different! I hate the "Well I'm from _______ and we do this there" and just that whole mentality. Each one of us is different. Treat us as such and you will be in the clear. Every club and every dancer is different. Asking and being polite is the best route any guy could take! :)
It's all about respect.
I just wanted to emphasize this. We came to this conclusion a few pages ago: ask VERBALLY, and respect whatever rules the dancer has. If you don't like her services, go to someone who provides what you want, including prostitutes.
Do not bitch and moan like a child about not being allowed to break the dancer's rules. It's extremely pathetic, and does nothing to make the dancer sympathize with your "plight".
Be polite, be a gentleman, and your SC visit will be pleasant.
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Originally Posted by Christyismyalias http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/ima...s/viewpost.gif
Exactly. We are all different! I hate the "Well I'm from _______ and we do this there" and just that whole mentality. Each one of us is different. Treat us as such and you will be in the clear. Every club and every dancer is different. Asking and being polite is the best route any guy could take! :)
It's all about respect.
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Originally Posted by
Otoki
I just wanted to emphasize this. We came to this conclusion a few pages ago: ask VERBALLY, and respect whatever rules the dancer has. If you don't like her services, go to someone who provides what you want, including prostitutes.
Do not bitch and moan like a child about not being allowed to break the dancer's rules. It's extremely pathetic, and does nothing to make the dancer sympathize with your "plight".
Be polite, be a gentleman, and your SC visit will be pleasant.
The thing is, they know better. They'd just prefer to do it and get yelled at then to ask and get a NO. It's a shame b/c you get more bees with honey than vinegar! I treat the nice guys SOOOOO much better than the assholes. They get a lot better time the nicer they are to me. The more respect, the more FUN.
Otherwise, I am a complete asshole and give them much less than I normally would or want to. I WANT them to have fun b/c it makes me have fun. Them being an asshole makes it lame for both parties. Boo :(
Manners are the way to go! Even in the SC! Hard to believe, I know :)
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In general, women don't like to have their feet touched unless you know them. The feet need to be prepared for any contact, and it is possible the may have foot problems. For example, for many dancers, their feet are what really makes money (knees hit chest, then drive your feet into the ground...anyone know what movie that line is from?).
During the course of time, the dancers footsies may develop callouses, and bunions. In addition to this, during the course of the night the dancers foot gets a lot of work, sweats, and generally takes a beating leaving the poor dogs looking like hell.
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I don't have any foot problems, but I still think it's weird to start touching other people's feet without asking.
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I wear wigs sometimes to work so I usually don't like customers to touch my hair. If they ask I wouldn't mind but my experience is they like to grab/yank. I didn't have a problem with allowing customers to touch my body but then their hands always went to my cookie.
I think that it is respectful that you ask instead of being aggressive.
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johnnytwoshoes
In general, women don't like to have their feet touched unless you know them.
Dancers love a foot massage; some have an orgasm from them.
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Originally Posted by
taylormadison
I wear wigs sometimes to work so I usually don't like customers to touch my hair. If they ask I wouldn't mind but my experience is they like to grab/yank. I didn't have a problem with allowing customers to touch my body but then their hands always went to my cookie.
I think that it is respectful that you ask instead of being aggressive.
I wold like a cookie.
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^^^ A foot rub that causes organisms? Sounds like I problem to me! I like my feet to be organism free, thanks :P
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Earl_the_Pearl
Dancers love a foot massage; some have an organism from them.
maybe the guy giving the foot massage does...a few months ago i let a guy rub my feet--he just so happened to have a little bottle of el cheapo stinky lotion with him, he glopped waaaay too much on me and started breathing all hard and shit, and he was so into what he was doing he didn't even notice the grossed out look on my face. Yeah i haven't let any more guys touch my feet for awhile...
as for touching other "non-forbidden" areas, it depends on my mood and how cheap/jerky the guy is. I prefer my hair to be off limits though, it's really thick and wavy and guys latch onto it without asking, leaving it a tangled up mess.