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I talk way too much and for way too long. Usually when I talk to long serious matters come up and the sexual fantasy is gone wham. I notice the girls at my club who play like they have their brain in their boobs make the most money. Strip club guys usually like the drunk girl because they think they can get more out of the girl behind the curtain. So no more talkie just take the guy for a walkie. :-*
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One girl i worked with was pretty relaxed at first. One of those cute couldn’t careless girls. Then at some point she thought she might give the hustle a good try-her style.
After having her hair highlighted lots of blond, and leaving it supper curly. She went around playing the dumb blond with big boobs from this exotic country or other, using this most hideous names and accidents. But boys did it work!
She thought it was too funny. And the night she was telling me this- In comes this long haired granola type of dude-outdoorsy type that she fancies. We drooled a little and she said watch this...
A few seconds later she runs back wide eyed and almost pissing herself with laughter. She said she goes there of supper sweet voice with a supper sweet accent. ‘I’m blab bla from bla bla.’ Then the guy turns to her and starts speaking the language to her. Seriously she stared at him wide eyed and said in her fake accent. ‘i speak English cause it’s respect to country’ then he went all angry, talking the other language brken English. ‘why you not talk to me. Why you lie...bla.bla.”
She makes a run for it...
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This happened during my Friday day shift where we get a lot of business men. A guy came and sat with me and after a few minutes of chatting told me how he had told another dancer, while she was on stage, that he wanted to get a dance from her. When she got off stage she asked him if he was ready and he said not yet. He's telling me all this, mind you. Then he says to me that he might have changed his mind and wants to get a dance from me instead of the other girl. I tell him that I'm going on stage next but we have a couple of songs. Would he like a dance now, or after my stage set? He says after I get off stage. Then he says that he would really like to see me do something on stage for him. I ask what, and he asks if I could pull my legs back towards my head while laying on my back. I tell him I'll see what I can do, and only end up putting one leg up in front of him on stage, mostly cuz I have no flexibility yet. I make sure to pay attention to him while on stage, although there were only 2 other custies at the stage at the time. He tips like $4 and is no where to be found when I get off stage. What a jerk! Just trying to get a cheap show while making empty promises about dances! Maybe I'm just naive, but that pissed me off.
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Deini
One girl i worked with was pretty relaxed at first. One of those cute couldn’t careless girls. Then at some point she thought she might give the hustle a good try-her style.
After having her hair highlighted lots of blond, and leaving it supper curly. She went around playing the dumb blond with big boobs from this exotic country or other, using this most hideous names and accidents. But boys did it work!
She thought it was too funny. And the night she was telling me this- In comes this long haired granola type of dude-outdoorsy type that she fancies. We drooled a little and she said watch this...
A few seconds later she runs back wide eyed and almost pissing herself with laughter. She said she goes there of supper sweet voice with a supper sweet accent. ‘I’m blab bla from bla bla.’ Then the guy turns to her and starts speaking the language to her. Seriously she stared at him wide eyed and said in her fake accent. ‘i speak English cause it’s respect to country’ then he went all angry, talking the other language brken English. ‘why you not talk to me. Why you lie...bla.bla.”
She makes a run for it...
Holy shit, that's hilarious!:rotfl:
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charlie61
Not that this is the reason...but in the past, I've given tips back as a gamble (read: mindfuck). If the customer sees that you aren't all about the money, then sometimes he'll end up spending MUCH more money on you later than he initially would have. This is a risky hustle, but it has definitely worked for me in the past.
This is true. I've taken a dollar tip a hot guys given me and stuffed it back down his shirt. It's like the biggest compliment you can give a guy to do that and they"ll spend on you after that because they think you thought they were more special than anyone else there. I don't know about a $20 bill though. That's a pretty big risk. That's a lot of money.
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Suz1
This happened during my Friday day shift where we get a lot of business men. A guy came and sat with me and after a few minutes of chatting told me how he had told another dancer, while she was on stage, that he wanted to get a dance from her. When she got off stage she asked him if he was ready and he said not yet. He's telling me all this, mind you. Then he says to me that he might have changed his mind and wants to get a dance from me instead of the other girl. I tell him that I'm going on stage next but we have a couple of songs. Would he like a dance now, or after my stage set? He says after I get off stage. Then he says that he would really like to see me do something on stage for him. I ask what, and he asks if I could pull my legs back towards my head while laying on my back. I tell him I'll see what I can do, and only end up putting one leg up in front of him on stage, mostly cuz I have no flexibility yet. I make sure to pay attention to him while on stage, although there were only 2 other custies at the stage at the time. He tips like $4 and is no where to be found when I get off stage. What a jerk! Just trying to get a cheap show while making empty promises about dances! Maybe I'm just naive, but that pissed me off.
Wow. You kind of could see this coming though. He was an ahole.
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swingline
When I'm chatting up a guy who's not really educated, it's always been a majorly bad idea to say that I have a bachelor's degree. Their face falls and they start to put up barriers. This = no lapdances, ever. So now I err on the side of assuming that every guy dropped out of high school in the 10th grade - and oooh and aaaah when they volunteer different.
And I can only tell guys visiting from Australia or the UK that I actually have a law degree. They seem to like that. Everyone else, immediate shut-down. They'll still talk to me, sure, but won't spend a penny. :-X
^^Very true. It's like being educated is a curse to some guys. If you do anything better than them they don't like it so you have to be slightly subordinate, giggle and 'dumb down' your English when you can feel they're intimidated by your intelligence or lose them.
All this is great. It's good knowing that we're all making the same mistakes.
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That sucks. Just out of curiosity, is that rubbing allowed?
That would be a NO! Some girls do it and it's just nasty. Have some class ladies
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I've become much better at recognizing time wasters which has helped me out a lot.
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XAnastasiaX
That sucks. Just out of curiosity, is that rubbing allowed?
That would be a NO! Some girls do it and it's just nasty. Have some class ladies
What post are you referring to?
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I just recently realized from a friend to not complain about not getting enough dances. I guess I usually do pretty well and I complain on X number of dances when half the girls dont even reach X amount. They start thinking I'm snobby and think I'm the shit when in reality I do it as a way of pushing myself to do better. I guess from now on I should do a mental note than verbally saying it...
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trixforyou327
I just recently realized from a friend to not complain about not getting enough dances. I guess I usually do pretty well and I complain on X number of dances when half the girls dont even reach X amount. They start thinking I'm snobby and think I'm the shit when in reality I do it as a way of pushing myself to do better. I guess from now on I should do a mental note than verbally saying it...
That's a really good one. There are lots of girls who complain about their dances, and whether they're doing better than everyone or not it just brings negativity into the club.
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Never look at your regulars as real friends or people to confide in. They aren't and either get bored and turned off about your rreal life stories or you never see them again. Either way, I've found, you lose $$
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trixforyou327
I just recently realized from a friend to not complain about not getting enough dances. I guess I usually do pretty well and I complain on X number of dances when half the girls dont even reach X amount. They start thinking I'm snobby and think I'm the shit when in reality I do it as a way of pushing myself to do better. I guess from now on I should do a mental note than verbally saying it...
I do the saaame thing. A slow night for me can be different from a slow night for others...so a lot of times I'll comment on how slow it is. Must make me seem like an asshole. :footinmou
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lol yea I didn't realize how that must have sounded to the other girls, but now I know and you know now too =]
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fawn296
I talk way too much and for way too long. Usually when I talk to long serious matters come up and the sexual fantasy is gone wham. I notice the girls at my club who play like they have their brain in their boobs make the most money. Strip club guys usually like the drunk girl because they think they can get more out of the girl behind the curtain. So no more talkie just take the guy for a walkie. :-*
Thank you!! I have been going about things all wrong! I talk too much about bullshit stuff and my education or other non-sexy stuff. It makes them view me as a cool chic, but not a sexy woman who they can't get enough of!
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I let depressed guys talk at me for a while about their dead mothers and ex-wives and mortgage payments and shit, because I don't wanna be rude and cut them off or walk away and I need to gracefully learn to change the subject to something more fun and flirty. I just feel bad for them.
Also one night I spent a couple hours chilling with this guy who was known around the club as a high-roller, I thought he was becoming my regular cuz last time he was there he had spent a few hundred on me. Well, this time when he was about to leave he pulls out his wallet and hands me... $40. $40 fucking dollars. Turns out the good times were over as quickly as they had begun with this guy, cuz in the course of our conversation I said that there was no way we'd meet OTC. Now he's moved on to another girl. I was pissed I had wasted so much time with this guy for so little payoff!
I'm nervous about approaching big groups of young rowdy drunk guys, so I hesitate.
I'm not the best judge of who has $ to spend. It's a game of chance deciding who to sit with.
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I need to work on not freezing up when confronted with the extremely uncomfortable creepy type. The ones who insist that I go home with them before I've even introduced myself. It's one thing to joke about it after I've given you 6 lapdances in a row, but when you yank me over by the arm that's just plain douchebag behavior. But every time it's happened I just lock up and don't know how to respond, I just giggle nervously until he stops talking.
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I'm not the best judge of who has $ to spend. It's a game of chance deciding who to sit with.
Same. I tend to sit with the person who looks interested in me. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
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* I don't keep the conversations focused on the sale.
* I spend too much time with time-wasters.
* I don't approach every customer in the Club especially on busy nights.
* I waste $ getting my makeup done in the DR when it does nothing for my income.
* I come in early for day shift make no $ and feet hurt by the time night shift starts.
* When I get 5 rejections for LDs, I head to the DR to regroup.
* When the club is dead, I am in the DR talking to the others instead of being productive.
* I don't have the basic Spanish hustle lines down to speak to Mexican custys that nobody else bothers with.
* I don't smile enough on stage.
* I can't find custy's that tip me on stage in a busy club.
* I feel rejected when nobody tips me on my stage rotation and get frustrated about where to start back on the floor.
* I use to get nude too fast for little $ or no $ at all.
* I don't get into the super stripper zone before going to work.
* I move too fast while doing LDs and run out of different stuff to do instead of moving slow.
* I spent too much time talking to other dancers.
* I don't invest enough time OTC improving my look, hustle skills, or dancing.
* I don't stretch well for work or to increase my flexibility.
* Not reading a chapter of Think and Grow Rich before work (in hustle hut)
* Not rereading superflirt.
* Not taking the time to read as many threads in hustle hut as possible, taking notes, practicing, and actually using them.
* Not taking the time to discover my "niche" at my club.
* Not talking to J.D. (super stripper) enough due to lack of time management.
* Not setting nightly earning goals or goals while stripping.
Geez, I make a lot of mistakes without looking at them as a whole. I have 7 hours before work so I will try to eliminate these tonight. I am really thinking if I do my income will increase, lol. I have the longest list so far, I think. Hmm..What was I doing right, lmao?
This is a great thread because it is a wake up call:O
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Last night a guy bought a dance for his friend. When I walked back over to the friend who bought a dance he wanted to buy another one for his friend. My time for main stage was one song away so...being naive and dumb I told the guy to hold the money for me (since it was a $20 and I only gave 1 dance) and until I was through with stage. OF COURSE when I came off stage the guy and his friend were no where to be found. I can't even be mad at them though cause that was a really dumb thing to do. LESSON LEARNED :-/
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^ Ugh, I still do that to this day on rare occasion. :slaps self in face:
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I missed out on a customer who, I later found out, did dances with every girl in the club. But I had thought, he's already done a lot of dances, he's probably tapped out. DUMB!
Not going slow enough in lap dances. Like someone already said, it's about believing in your product and knowing that your slow and sensual dance is really amazing. We always hear about the mileage hounds because they are so vocal and so it's this tense thing of the guy trying to get more and you trying to do a great dance but keep his hands off and then you start thinking every guy is this way. But for some guys money is no object and they really just want to enjoy a very slow and sensual dance. I have lost out on money by forgetting this and thinking short term (having a 2 to 3 song objective when I could have had a lot more).
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JRdancer
I missed out on a customer who, I later found out, did dances with every girl in the club. But I had thought, he's already done a lot of dances, he's probably tapped out. DUMB!
this is a HUGE mistake i constantly make! i find myself making excuses for them. i've been catching myself doing it lately and i'm trying hard to change what i'm saying to myself. its hard to re-condition yourself but i'm sure its worth it.
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Y'all are amazing. This is a great thread!
Taylor, you hit the nail on the head with your post. I appreciated that. I am one of those girls who makes a daily list of things to do, unfortunately, there's not enough time in my day to get all the stuff done in the club or out. I'm sometimes lucky if I can just get the list made! LOL.
I think my biggest mistake has been spending too much time with or focusing on the wrong guys.
Keeping that in mind, I hadn't given any thought as to the sensuality of the product we are all selling! I feel like when I hit the CR with a customer, it's already a race against time if I didn't get there at five (I have another job, so I might come in at eight or nine on some nights) I put all this stupid pressure on myself to play "catch up" when my big opportunities to take it easy are slipping right through my fingers. I can usually get them into the CR, but it's rare for me to sell more than 2 or 3 dances to the average customer I lure in there. Christ, I get back there and I feel like I'm running in place! Gotta hurry; Gotta hustle my bustle! Its' like I'm tap dancing back there or something. My stage sets don't even make me that tired!
I've got to stop doing this to myself! I don't know if the rest of you know what I'm talking about, but the amount of pressure you put on yourself to achieve your nightly goal can literally end up ruining your night. I'm glad this thread is here to remind us to focus, but not overdo it.