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how to compete with "slutly" dancers..
I dont know how else to put it as slutty, I guess you would say that all dancers are, but I work in a TOPLESS bar... not a nude bar, and when other girls get drunk and start showing their stuff and other customers see that I dont do that.. and Im not going to. I dont know how to compete with girls that are going to show/do extra shit.. any help??
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Umm, work on your hustle more. Don't become an extras girl. That would be the only way to amp up your money making is to amp up your hustle, and try not to drink on the job. That would impare your judgement, & u might start showing too.
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You don't have to compete with them. When I'm on the floor I hardly notice what the other girls are doing. Just find your man and keep his attention on YOU. You do not really have to do what all the other girls are doing to make money.
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ya I used to drink when I first started but I try not to drink now.. I guess I was just having a bad night ya know..but its really hard to keep them around when other girls are doing extra
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I know, but a girl has to try without losing her morals. Or you will b just like them. So seriously girl, keep up your good work, & keep up your good hustle.
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hey, consider yourself lucky if the other girls are just flashing their junk. At my club, they're giving head.
Angel is right. The only way to compete is to focus on yourself and your hustle. There's a bunch of great info in Hustle Hut about this topic. Start studying!
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I use lots of smiles and eye contact while on stage. It really seems to work. If they are completely focused on YOU, they really don't even notice what else is going on.
Some guys are THERE for the extras girls and you can't do a damn thing to get their attention though. They'll buy a dance from a fugly chick that will sell herself before buying from a beautiful clean dancer.
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Don't worry about what others are doing. Work on what you are doing.
I worked and am going back to a club riddled with extras - I have always done well without having to stoop to that level. I just roll my eyes at that crap because it's funny that I make more than them and do way way way less.
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Yeah at my club 18 months ago the girls used to debate whether $10 was enough to take their top off on the podiums. Money has gotten tight and there is no tipping at the podiums at all now, and there probably wont be anymore because at the start of the year the desperado dancers started going topless on the podiums and give the guys a free show. Last month or so the girls have started working the floor topless, no doubt giving the guys a free grope too.
It appears to me they don't get any more dances than I do, and I have no idea how the "if i give it away for free they will start paying for it concept works". I'm intrigued to see what they will be doing by the end of the year- working the floor naked? So what happens after that?
Anyway I still make the same money I always have by keeping covered. At the end of the day you have to decide what you are happy to do, and stay within those lines. Once you step over your own limits for cash then, well, you just fucked yourself over!
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I started dressing up in gown type outfits, and wearing my hair in the 40's waves.
I really like the look of Tempest Storm back in the 50's so I try and wear the old school styles when I am working the room.
It's unique and most patrons don't see too many girls like that so it gives you a slight edge if you're the "different" girl in the room.
When I have worked in clubs that were less than "clean" I try and appeal to the gentlemen who wants a lady to sit with him, be sexy and buy my sassy ass off the list! Holla!
I made a lot of changes with my style and my choices in the club, I started only drinking champagne too.
It worked! I was rather shocked at first but when you stick to your guns and make sure that you're not negotiating you can make some good money when you tap the right man, woman or couple in the crowd. Also, tipping out the bar staff is good because they can hook you up with info on who's tipping big in the club.
Good luck sexy ladies!
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this bus. is tricky and there are a lot of emotional triggers in my personal experience. it's hard but just try to concentrate on what you are doing and try not to worry about others are doing as they will only drain your energy. I feel like this especially when I start to work after being off for awhile or adjusting to a new club. hopefully with time it'll get better for you. If not try to look into other clubs.
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AudreyLeigh
Don't worry about what others are doing. Work on what you are doing.
I worked and am going back to a club riddled with extras - I have always done well without having to stoop to that level. I just roll my eyes at that crap because it's funny that I make more than them and do way way way less.
Good call. I work at an "extras" club, and pretty bad too, I mean more than just blow jobs...full on sex in the VIP. And alot of guys come there specifically for certain girls they KNOW do it. I get propositioned for sex/blow jobs/hand jobs every single night I work. Hey I gotta give it to them, at least they don't waste my time. I tell them I am not that kind of girl and move on to find my prince charming....and usually do.
When I first started, It bugged the shit out of me and I complained about it alot. Now, I have just learned to put my blinders on and like AL said...focus on what I am doing. There are still PLENTY of guys out there that are not even remotely interested in extras. Get good and finding them and sticking with them through the night as long as possible! Most of my nights I make the majority of all my money off of one guy.
It's always funny to walk out with $500 and hear the girl that I saw giving head and hand jobs all night complaining about how she barely broke $100. Tehehehehehe....bitches get what they deserve.
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ya.. I had this guy ask about taking me home.. he has came in the club before and he does spend money.. so I was like we will see.. .. I say how about we do three "special" dances.. he was like ohh "special"!! I was like yaaaa.. he was like how much.. I was like ughh duh " just 60 sweetie" (the normal price) and maybe he cant add, because we have done dances before and he knows they are 20 or he just though specail was reallly special.. lol and I didnt do anything special .. I changed up the dances a bit but he thought it was great lol.. and he kept asking about taking me home .. I said ok, I think about the price.. ha hah and he got a few more dances and I didnt go home with hime lol
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I like what tikismall said... thats kind of what i have been doing lately. These days I always wear long gowns and make sure to wear rhinestone chokers and do my makeup so i have a classy look. I am actually exchanging my crazy hair color for black soon and I am going to get wavy extensions. In my club, as soon as i started dressing classier i started making more money. the past two nights i spend most of hte time in the private rooms. If you act like a lady then you will get treated as such.
Amp your hustle like the other girls said. Also, focus on the tease. make your dances so sensual that the guys will be hooked and not demand extras. Yesterday i had some french guy take me to the CR and kept asking what he would get for more money. I ignored him and politely told him to keep his hands off of me, since my dances were hot enough already (to whcih he of course responded 'but im french. nothing is to hot for me') I did lower than usual contact dances and just made it very sensual and focused on teasing. At the end, even though this guy was looking for more, he ended up renewing the CR. if you can effectively tease a guy and act like a lady, then you will do just fine without ever doing more than allowed :).
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babybambi08
ya.. I had this guy ask about taking me home.. he has came in the club before and he does spend money.. so I was like we will see.. .. I say how about we do three "special" dances.. he was like ohh "special"!! I was like yaaaa.. he was like how much.. I was like ughh duh " just 60 sweetie" (the normal price) and maybe he cant add, because we have done dances before and he knows they are 20 or he just though specail was reallly special.. lol and I didnt do anything special .. I changed up the dances a bit but he thought it was great lol.. and he kept asking about taking me home .. I said ok, I think about the price.. ha hah and he got a few more dances and I didnt go home with hime lol
If this was an undercover cop you would get arrested. Why lie and pretend like you *might* go home with someone? I don't get it.
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CarlyMIA
If this was an undercover cop you would get arrested. Why lie and pretend like you *might* go home with someone? I don't get it.
like I said.. "he has came in the club before" I know him
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babybambi08
like I said.. "he has came in the club before" I know him
I worked at a club that got raided several times,(thanks gosh never when I was there!) the cops go there more than once. I'm not sure though if you can get arrested for telling a John I'll think about it, I think you have to show intent by saying
"ok, I'll go home with you for $600 ." Or that'sthe law in most States,I dunno where you guys live )
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Originally Posted by
babybambi08
I dont know how else to put it as slutty, I guess you would say that all dancers are, but I work in a TOPLESS bar... not a nude bar, and when other girls get drunk and start showing their stuff and other customers see that I dont do that.. and Im not going to. I dont know how to compete with girls that are going to show/do extra shit.. any help??
They aren't competition for you if that's not what you're offering. A customer probably isn't going to come into the club thinking, "I really want a classy, sensual girl to give me a wonderful dance...either that, or a blow job from some slut. So I guess it's just about whoever approaches me first."
It sucks, and you might get some guys going after you, expecting some of that. But as soon as you make it clear that you aren't one of those girls, he should stop. And hey, if he doesn't stop pushing, go get the bouncer. At my club, the bouncer will go say something to a customer who is trying to proposition us, and be like, "This isn't a whorehouse, man. Treat the ladies like ladies. You gonna have a problem with that?" He's pretty goddamn intimidating. And if he has a problem, he gets thrown out, and if he doesn't have a problem, you better believe that guy is going to be meek and mild-mannered after that.
And boy, do we love watching our bouncer do that. Terry is this huge, phenomenally bulky guy, like his biceps are the size of my waist (steroids anyone?), and whenever he goes lumbering off to deal with a custie, we all huddle around by the bar and watch.
So anyways, if you make it clear you're not going to put up with that kind of behavior, it shouldn't be an issue. And if the club doesn't back you up on that decision, maybe you should find somewhere else to go, because no amount of money is worth compromising your safety.
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here is a tip i remembered that works on some guys who bother you for sex. It doesnt work for all, especially the extremely old, married, or extremely aware of how ugly they look. However, sometimes it does if they are slightly younger and have a slightly egotistical attitude.
When during a dance they wonder what else you will do, you laugh it off as if they are joking. Say something along the lines of "Haha, you're silly. I know you are just here for entertainment, because a {good looking/successful/insert positive adjective here} guy such as yourself can get plenty of action for free outside the club. Paying for sex is desperate, and you are clearly not a desperate guy. You obviously just came here to have a little bit of fun and blow off some steam after work. teehee." After this quiets them then resume the im having so much fun dancing for you attitude.
If you make it sound like paying for sex is a lowly desperate action and remind them that they are above that it will sometimes work. The type of guy it works for is one who would be embarassed to be caught doing something perceived as desperate. Doesnt work for all guys, but for when it does it will make them shut up and keep buying dances.
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Whatever you do don't talk about them to customers.
Second don't pay attention to them in general.
You give them more power.
As others have said up your hustle. What do have that the slutty dancers don't? Play up your sex appeal, pay closer attention to your customers, wow customers with your conversation skills, be more flirty and more assertive.
Really dressing the part helps too. Without over-doing it wear your hair and make up in a way that stands out, play with accessories and jewelery.
Read lots of books. The more information in your head the better you are at handling certain situations in life. Seriously.
When you find what works in a good hustle repeat!
When you find what doesn't work, make it your new rule to avoid doing it again.
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I usually play it plenty stupid anyway so i can sort of get away with this if I'm in that mode. I say that I used to, but one of the girls has herpes and shes been giving it to a lot of guys so I stopped. I totally screwed up a girl trying to do extra one night cause her customer heard it and I guess he reconsidered. I change the subject after that pretty quickly and try to get him to order a shot since he may have just sobered up a little.
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ive been in the conversation about other dancers doing extras i say good for them but thats not my kind of thing besides i dont want to leave the club one night with something i cant wash off.
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Athenathefabulous
Say something along the lines of "Haha, you're silly. I know you are just here for entertainment, because a {good looking/successful/insert positive adjective here} guy such as yourself can get plenty of action for free outside the club. Paying for sex is desperate, and you are clearly not a desperate guy. You obviously just came here to have a little bit of fun and blow off some steam after work. teehee." After this quiets them then resume the im having so much fun dancing for you attitude.
If you make it sound like paying for sex is a lowly desperate action and remind them that they are above that it will sometimes work. The type of guy it works for is one who would be embarassed to be caught doing something perceived as desperate. Doesnt work for all guys, but for when it does it will make them shut up and keep buying dances.
brilliant!!
p.s. not condoneing the dirty aspect either
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CarlyMIA
If this was an undercover cop you would get arrested. Why lie and pretend like you *might* go home with someone? I don't get it.
I agree with you on this i never tell a guy i mite go home with him i am very afraid of undercover cops. A lot of times actully say no that would be illegal that way if it is a cop he knows for sure I am clean.
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No need to compete. A cusomter can tell quality time vs cheap ass whore. If a customer is having a nice intimate moment with you without you being a cheap whore- he will spend his money on you. Never be threatnend by trash.
And don't forget they are men. Of course they'd pay some cash to see a whore in action. However, those girls aren't getting regulars and little do they know - aren't making real money.