what do you think of child labor??
I watch house swap and worlds stricted parents... and a lot of them work there kids to the bone.. they live on farms and their kids are required to work the farm for hours... the ones I have seen dont go to school, they do homeschool..
I think children should go to school, its not only about academics its also good to interact with other people and challeges that you will need in life.
I do think kids do need to do chores, I would say things like take out the trash, pick up after them selfs, vaccum and dust, fold clothes and do dishes, and yard work.. not all of those everyday.. but the ones like trash, pick up after them selfs and two other chores.. and homework, or studying for about an hour..
they are kids and i HATE it how these kids on these farms have the burden of if they dont do hard labor they bills that their parents should worry about is now on them..
I think kids should never ever have to worry about bills.. I worrried about bills when I was a kids sometimes and it affected my schoool work and my childhood.
I think that if they do want something they should work for it and be respectful. when you get older.. 15+ you could get a part time job and pay for your gas for your car, and part of your car, and have a little money because they did work for it..
all in all.. I think when your a kid (20 and under) you should be a kid, enjoy not worring about bills, and not having to work so hard.. you can do that when your a kid.
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I believe in child labor but unfortunately my kids do not, LoL.
I live in the sticks here and some farm kids do work hard, but farming is a tuff business in the best of times. They whole family usually has to work at it just to keep the operation afloat.
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Working in a family business or farm is fine, but it should be secondary to school.
Working a child until they are dead tired on a daily basis is abuse. Did they do that on these shows?
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I have to flat out disagree with you. I grew up out in the sticks with horses and dogs and tons of physical chores. I remember my parents constantly getting crap from my mom's relatives who lived in the city about the amount of work I had to do. Yeah, sometimes it was hard, but I loved growing up out there. People are envious of my childhood now, I grew up riding horses, and had litters of puppies to play with every summer. A bonus is I ended up with a great work ethic, and I've always been in pretty good shape.
My sister on the other hand, is much younger than me and has never had ANY chores in her life. Her entire childhood was spent going to school, playing, and doing whatever the hell she wanted. She's 20 now, has never had a job because she's "too good" for every imaginable career and she spends most of her time sitting on her fat ass.
Physical labor is good for kids, both physically and emotionally, because it teaches them that part of being a family is working together to improve the family.
Oh, I just realized that you think a 20 year old is a kid and shouldn't have to be responsible... We're just going to have to agree to disagree on that.
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so you belive that kids should have the finicail worries at 7 years old?? I dont care what anyone say that is just flat out wrong.
Yes the kids usually work from dawn til dust... and do about an hour of school a day.
I dont believe the kids should have to work to keep food on their plate.. they have parents to do that for them
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Well, part of the "kids shouldn't have to work hard" mentality has resulted in a generation of children who are fat, lazy, and feel entitled to everything.
There is a difference between treating a child like a slave, and expecting a child to pull his or her own weight.
Working on a farm teaches children that it's NOT all about them, that they have to contribute to the whole family dynamic. They learn that even the most tedious chores are necessary to keep the family afloat, which is an incredible experience, and keeps them from getting snobby or prissy later in life (that whole "I'm too good for that job" mentality).
I worried about bills when I was kid, and it helped me more responsible, especially with money. I was never one of those kids who bought the designer jeans or spent a whole months' allowance on liquor like the brats in high school. I learned to save and budget, a skill which I now realize is remarkably rare for people in their 20's.
And you're a kid and supposed to be play until 20. Jesus. If someone is 20 and thinks she shouldn't have to work hard, it's time to grow the fuck up.
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My husband and I have a construction business, and his son has worked for the family business since he was 9 years old. Of course school always comes first, but my step son is very motivated by getting a paycheck and is already trying to tell his dad how many hours he wants to be scheduled this summer, LOL! (he's 14 now, btw)
My step son works hard, and didn't even complain one year when he was suffering from heat exhaustion. It wasn't until he started throwing-up that he admitted that he didn't feel well for a while already. :O We know to ask him how he's feeling, and watch him when it's hot and humid out, now.
I think working is an important part of growing up. It teaches kids independence and skills that they can take with them into adulthood. The kids that work on farms and are home schooled don't really know anything else, so they really aren't missing out on life. Besides, they get to spend time with their parents, which is more than most suburban parents can say about their kids.
If it turns into an abuse situation (like factory labor in third world countries) then it needs to be looked into. Being tired after working hard all day just doesn't seem like much of a issue. Most kids would find ways to tire themselves out if given the opportunity, anyhow.
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babybambi08
so you belive that kids should have the finicail worries at 7 years old?? I dont care what anyone say that is just flat out wrong.
Yes the kids usually work from dawn til dust... and do about an hour of school a day.
I dont believe the kids should have to work to keep food on their plate.. they have parents to do that for them
Dawn til dusk every single day non-stop? And ONLY one hour a day of school? Both of those statements are exactly literal? If so, then yes, that's too much work and not enough school...but I tend to doubt that it's that much work every single day, non-stop.
And no one is saying that a child should have to worry about adult financial issues, but I doubt that a 7 year old's parents are sitting down with them over the dinner table and poring over bills. Working to put food on the plate? No, but they're helping the family farm out...that's how family farms work.
There is nothing wrong with expecting a child to work on a family farm. It's good for them and as Marvel Girl said, it teaches them discipline and a strong work ethic. More kids could probably use some of that these days.
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I grew up on a farm, it started at dawn and did not end until sometime after dark. I also went to school as well.
Family farms rely on their farms to eat and make a living. I had chores - to get the eggs, tend the garden, take care of the horses. Clean out their stalls and check on the new momma cows. I also took care of the calf set for slaughter to fill our freezer with meat. Plus, I had to clean and dress whatever my uncle's brought in from hunting.
I had a wonderful childhood, was well loved and grew up with an understanding of what a work ethic and actual manual labor is. Thus I developed a healthy respect for people that had to or chose these jobs to make their living.
I think every city kid should spend at least one year on a working, profitable farm. A little dirt and hard work never hurt anyone.
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I just cant believe so many people think that children should be responible at such young ages to contribute to bills..
They have enought time to do that.. and just because you live in the city doesnt mean that they didnt work hard to.. I started workin a regular job at 15.. and most of my chech went to the bills because my mother did not work at the time...but It really did suck to have the family bills on my shoulders..
I have plenty of work ethics and understand how a dollar works
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Dawn til dusk every single day non-stop? And ONLY one hour a day of school? Both of those statements are exactly literal? If so, then yes, that's too much work and not enough school...but I tend to doubt that it's that much work every single day, non-stop.
And no one is saying that a child should have to worry about adult financial issues, but I doubt that a 7 year old's parents are sitting down with them over the dinner table and poring over bills. Working to put food on the plate? No, but they're helping the family farm out...that's how family farms work.
There is nothing wrong with expecting a child to work on a family farm. It's good for them and as Marvel Girl said, it teaches them discipline and a strong work ethic. More kids could probably use some of that these days.
yes that is what they say and show on the show.. they also have another one where a family owns a bed and breakfast and its just about the same...they kids cry in that one saying how they are scared if they dont work that their home will be taken by the bank.. in an update the family ends up selling the B&B and get jobs that they can support their kids and there kids still work.. but only part time, and they are alot happier because they dont worry about becoming homeless
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babybambi08
I just cant believe so many people think that children should be responible at such young ages to contribute to bills..
They have enought time to do that.. and just because you live in the city doesnt mean that they didnt work hard to.. I started workin a regular job at 15.. and most of my chech went to the bills because my mother did not work at the time...but It really did suck to have the family bills on my shoulders..
I have plenty of work ethics and understand how a dollar works
It's not about bills, it's about being able to eat. Farming families are always large - more hands to help with the work. I never said that city people did not know how to work. And non of my commentary was directed at you personally - so don't take it that way
And not all of the responsibility is heaped on the children's shoulders. It's about being part of a family and helping out with said family.
You asked a question, I replied with my experience and what I know as I grew up on a farm - as I mentioned.
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they are scared if they dont work that their home will be taken by the bank..
That's a damn shame. I agree with you completely that it's wrong for kids to have financial worries. It can be ok for kids to work, especially if they're growing up on a farm, but never to the extent where they feel that they could become homeless if they don't work hard enough.
I think growing up on a farm or working for a family business would have been alright, but like Mr Hyde said, it should be secondary to at least school.
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It's not about bills, it's about being able to eat. Farming families are always large - more hands to help with the work. I never said that city people did not know how to work. And non of my commentary was directed at you personally - so don't take it that way
And not all of the responsibility is heaped on the children's shoulders. It's about being part of a family and helping out with said family.
You asked a question, I replied with my experience and what I know as I grew up on a farm - as I mentioned.
Dont worry Im not taking it personal.. and I wasnt trying to direct my reply to you either..I usually try not to direct my replys to anyone..
I understand it in a way, but I dont too.. If they kids were not there to work, would they hire someone? I just dont like it how they depend on them
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What kind of farm work are you talking about? Lighter stuff like picking up eggs or plowing by hand a la 1850? There's a big difference. I totally agree that kids shouldn't be burdened by worrying about finances, that takes all the joy out of being a child and makes them grow up before their time!
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I think there is a difference between "worrying about bills" and just being aware of the value of money, etc.
I grew up not worrying about bills, but you bet your ass I knew the value of money. Hell, often, when my mother would want to buy me something, i would argue with her and tell her not to because I thought it cost too much.
As for child labor...working on a farm is fine. Having that work come before schooling and interfering with proper development is not ok though.
Also, that show is always edited to make stuff look worse than it is.
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I think there is a difference between "worrying about bills" and just being aware of the value of money, etc.
I grew up not worrying about bills, but you bet your ass I knew the value of money. Hell, often, when my mother would want to buy me something, i would argue with her and tell her not to because I thought it cost too much.
As for child labor...working on a farm is fine. Having that work come before schooling and interfering with proper development is not ok though.
Also, that show is always edited to make stuff look worse than it is.
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By "child labor", I'm assuming that OP is talking pre-teen, or at least<16 yrs. As 1 of the "city folk", I'm not intimately familiar with the family farm subject example of several posters. But, definitely by mid teens, a lot of immigrant family businesses (food service, dry cleaners, etc) employ family teenagers in day-day business (when it doesn't interfere with school). Also, businesses involving repair, service/ renting out of "machinery" have been in same family for up to 3 generations in some cases. Learning something from the ground floor/inside perspective can be very beneficial. I said, "can be". To give 3 examples- in 1 case, 2nd generation son won a regional "Mechanic of the Year" award, in another case, owners son utilized background to move on to bigger & better things, a 3rd case, 3rd generation son served/serving//?? lenghty prison term for an incident of "going postal".(3 different non-related family examples)
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Kids are coddled to death now.
It's why there are so many adult children out there.
Take a look back in history.
You think kids have to work now?
Pffttt...
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I was treated as a princess as a child, so was my sister. School came first, we had no chores. Although I did start having a job at 16 it was as a lifeguard (very easy) and the money was just extra spending money for me. We are both still pricesses today and although we both take care of ourselves ok neither of us does much housework. I have to really push myself to do dishes daily and housework once a week. :(
I think there is a healthy balance between the two extremes of being a spoiled princess and overworked from dawn til dusk. Kids should have some chores and earn money, they need to learn how to function as adults once the're on their own. But they also need to have fun and be carefree. I think worrying about bills esp before 16 is a little much.
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I taught my GFs three year old to bring me beer in exchange for candy, it was a mutually beneficial agreement that she very unreasonably decided to put a stop to :(
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Sirona
Kids are coddled to death now.
It's why there are so many adult children out there.
Take a look back in history.
You think kids have to work now?
Pffttt...
I agree. School should come first and kids should have time to just be kids...BUT..having them do their fair share of work (which can vary depending on the family's situation) instills a good work ethic and prevents kids from becoming the selfish,self centered,a-holes brimming with unearned entitlement that you see FAR too much of today.