having trouble selling dances... help
I've been dancing for about two weeks now...
I do really well on stage, always get good stage tips and get a good response from the audience. And I'm a good conversationalist and guys enjoy talking to me and will tip me to sit with them/buy me drinks...
But I have the hardest time selling dances. I always sit with a guy for 7 or so minutes before evening bringing up the dances, usually more like 10, and then they either give me the "later" line or say they don't want dances.
I don't understand what I'm doing wrong but I haven't sold a VIP either and it's starting to depress me...
Re: having trouble selling dances... help
i feel like that too, like everyone says i shouldnt have trouble getting dances and i take pride in how i look etc etc but like lately ive jus lost my mojo, im going up to guys and chatting being polite but then i jus loose interest in even wanting to dance for them or because ive made a sort of relationship with the customer its hard to get all sexy and kinky with them when i do do a dance. my friend does real good, she goes and sits on their lap and looks in their eyes and is alk like hey boys, how are u tonight?? hmm i dunno i keep getting the later line, maybe i need to start doing what my friend does instead of befriending them, after all theyre not after a friend, theyre after a dance their wives cant give them i suppose!! im confused.com
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everyone keeps telling me, dont just go up to them and ask for a dance immidietly, but im wondering if im talking to them for too long or something?
i feel like its a catch 22 because if you ask them right off the back then they get pissed and think youre all about the $ (which, yeah, it is a job not a charity for lonely men) but if you talk for them too long they think they can get your time for free or something...
Re: having trouble selling dances... help
Sounds like you are waiting too long. Walk up ..introduce yourself.. make 5-10 sec of small talk ( keep it sexy like) and ask for the dance. You seem like you might be being too friendly. Focus on making them want to spend more time with you with your body language instead of engaging in long friendly conversations.
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if its busy or you work in a wanna dance club or you just dont have the energy for long conversation then the 5-10 sec small talk followed by clever pitch for the dance is appropriate.
To sell CRs though requires a bit more time to build rapport usually. 7-10 min of conversation is not unreasonable... Usually if you want a guy to drop a lot this is required. However, make sure that your conversation is headed to the direction of him spending money on you. 7-10 min of small talk is no good, nor is 7-10 min of sitting quietly looking surly and staring off into space or 7-10 minutes of awkward conversation. These will likely result in a waste of your time. Make sure that the 7-10 minutes is engaging and flirtatious and that you are busy charming him and making him want to be alone with you. If you have a customer though that you are unable to converse with beyond small talk then make the pitch quickly. I would have a lot of one liners on hand for these... Hustle hut has an abundance of them.
You are still new. After some practice you will be able to read when a customer is ready for you to make the sale as well as what type of things they are looking for. Some want the dance then you leave (these are the ones you dont want to waste 20 min talking to) others want long one on one company (these are the ones that you want to spend time conversing with so they will take you to CR/Vip for a half hr or an hr).
Re: having trouble selling dances... help
make sure you are behaving like you want to dance for them :) guys love it when they think the girl specifically wants to dance for them
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Re: having trouble selling dances... help
There are different types of people and what works for one won't necessarily work for others. If you are making good money you can keep doing what you are doing or you can look into Dancerwealth and learn how to pin-point personality types so you can sell to different types faster.
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If I get tired of talking to guys I just walk up, straddle them, say hi and lean forward and tell them I want to play while breathing down their neck. Then after the first dance of 2 we sit in the dance room and chat for a song. Or be friendly for a minute, stop yourself from talking and be like "stupid me! Your not hear to talk...you here to see me naked!" stand up, take his hand, smile and start walking him back.
Re: having trouble selling dances... help
This very thing has been happening to me...I come from a financial sales background and the most important thing I learned is the law of numbers. Even if it takes a red bull or a glass of wine, the more people you meet, the more exposure you have, therefore, the more dances you will sell.
Today this strategy worked wonders for me...and I worked the DAY shift which was super slow, so if it can work during the day, it can certainly work during the night.
First of all, I can't wait to get up on stage b/c it's the ultimate exposure. Therefore, I make sure I have the perfect music, hair, outfit and routine. For whatever reason, if nobody comes up to tip, look for whoever is giving you more eye contact than anyone else, lock into it and dance onstage facing him, as if you were dancing for him alone...let him know you are interested in him.
When I'm done with the stages, go over there and say hello, exchange names, ask him if he's had a good day/evening so far, etc. If at this point he still won't buy a dance from you, you've at least spoken to him and given him attention. Later on, casually walk by and wave or blow him a kiss, at which point he will probably be thinking it's about time for a dance.
I did this all day today...if it weren't for that strategy of introducing myself to everyone and being sweet and nice, I wouldn't have made ANY money...lol.
For example, there was a dude sitting over all by himself, I went over, introduced myself, got his name and asked him how his day was going. He said he just got off work. I said with a smile, "Oh goodness, I bet you're ready for a little R&R!" while coyly doing a "vanna white showcase" to myself...lol. He smiled and said maybe later. I just smiled and said no problem, enjoy your corona, and walked off after giving him a semi- kiss on the cheek.
Later on, I made it a point to walk back over, then he reached out and asked me where could we go for some dances...I sold him three! This usually always works out for me with everyone. Remembering their name is a big plus too.
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It's almost like accelerated speed dating...but only with money involved. lol.
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i know what ur going thru. been dancing 2 weeks myself and i keep hearing that i'm "too nice to work here" . WTF? i'm short, blond and apparently have a "sweet" look to me. also a good conversationalist. how do i slut it up to get these guys to see me as a slutty stripper? i work in ohio with the no touch law (and yes vice does come in) and many girls at my club do MAJOR contact, but until i drop the weight i can't get into a better club./:O
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i've been dancing for 2 years and i still get told i'm too nice to be there etc..it can get annoying to hear but a lot of guys get dances off me as i'm one of the few nice girls in the club. and sometimes even get tips for being nice