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do you ask for tips when giving dance?
I feel weird asking guys for tips but I know a lot of girls ask or demand them at my club.. I heard a girl arguing with a customer saying "no I want a $100 tip!" and the guy saying he didn't have the money... he overdrew from his ATM account to give it to her though!
My best tips I've gotten and not said anything, just reiterated what the price was and been handed extra money. When I have asked I usually just say "it's going to be x for the dance(s), and tip is up to you." I always get a tip but usually it's like 3 or 4 dollars which doesn't really help me out much.
So do you girls ask for tips, have some good cute lines to use or just hope the customer tips you?
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Yeah, same.
I have a problem with asking for a tip when a guy gets like four dances. I feel like I'm over-doing it, but I know it shouldn't be that way. In fact, those are usually the guys with excess money anyway... so I will be getting over this quickly!
Or I'll just say...
"It's $x minimum, and a tip if you enjoyed it." ::wink::
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Honey you're cheating yourself out of a lot of money if you're not asking for tips! They're coming to the club and watching you dance for them that means you are working, you should get paid for your work!! Definitely start asking for tips. You don't have to be a bitch to get your money, but you deserve it.
At my club we're not allowed to tell them how much to tip but we can say things like "oh ppl usually tip x many dollars" or "guys usually tip the amt of the token".
Go with what works for you, but don't be shy! Get your money. :)
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AmbrosiaSpice
"It's $x minimum, and a tip if you enjoyed it." ::wink::
I never used to ask for tips, but now I've started and I get extra money every time.. Do it cutely and they will usually give something. Even if it IS only a few dollars, it's more than you had before! Some guys really hook it up, which is bonus!
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I have a similar dilemma. In my club, VIPs are $80 for 15min (I get only $40). So I have to ask for tips, otherwise it is not quite profitable to do VIPs. Girls usually ask for $50+ as a tip. I noticed a lot of guys are really upset they were not told about tipping beforehand, so they feel hustled, and that I was not sincere with them, like I only did it for the money (hm,... no honey, I just love to grind on strange men for free ::). And some of them spend all cash on dances, so they have nothing left for a tip.
When I tell about mandatory tip before the dance... many people think that $50 is way too much for a tip. Also, asking for tips before the actual dance is sort of tacky... Some girls in my club just add tip to the VIP price and say its $150 VIP. I do not feel comfortable doing that, because if that guy will ask any other girl or a VIP host about the prices, they will say $80. So he will feels hustled again.
So I don't know what to do. I usually use my intuition in deciding when to ask for a tip... Needless to say, it often hurts my earnings. :(
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My club doesn't have a VIP room, per se, just a VIP area where the dances are $30 instead of $20. There's only so many songs in an hour, and only so many hours in a night! To break through that earnings ceiling, I ALWAYS ask for tips. I'm shameless about it. Sometimes I get 2 bucks extra, and other times I get an extra $50. It all adds up.
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I usually just say "it's $X, plus tip if you want". and i say it like it's no big deal. usually they tip well (if it's one dance, at least $5). last night, before I could tell one of my custies the amount due he asked "can i give you more money?"...i thought that was a trick question. lol. never been asked that before.
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I've been asking for tips every time and not making a ton (usually about $5) but it has added up. I guess the guy who want to give good tips will without being prompted...
I did a VIP today and told the guy "tip is up to you but the average tip is $100." He was super grabby and kept trying to unzip his pants so I didn't feel bad about being shameless (if they don't tip I've just been using the "aww you don't wanna give me a tip? i tried to make your dance extra special!"). He gave me $50 which wasn't what I wanted but I'm pretty sure he would have walked out without tipping me, so I'm glad I asked!
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I always ask for tips. Unless I'm havng one of those weird nights where I feel weird asking. But for example last wed I had this awesome customer we did an hour room and then we were leaving and I asked for a tip . He handed me 80 so instead of 200 i made 280. He ended up getting another 30 minutes and I asked him again for a tip. he handed me 60. so that night instead of 580 i made 700 that night. Some nights if no one is getting dances I will walk around being cute shaking my booty and asking for dances. When they say no i always ask for a tip with a smile holding my garter open and it works and if I do that all night sometimes it is an extra 100 150 dollars. Remember you are at work to make money. And you said that you feel funny asking for tips. Well when you think about it EVERYTHING you make is a tip . Right?
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God I wish I would have read this thread when I still danced...I was one of those ppl who felt horrrrible asking for a tip. Kind of like a guy feels about rejection when asking a girl out etc.
But yeah, you are all right. You're there to make money. There is nothing to lose when asking for a tip.,..
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I get a lot of tips without asking for them, I think guys are used to it at my club because so many girls ask. Plus on Saturdays dances are $30, so lots of guys will just hand you $40 especially after they are drunk. I still feel weird asking for them outright...but then I am new to dancing and still learning how to be a pushy salesman.
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I always, do it never hurts to ask, sometimes a 5 or 20, if it's only a few dances, 150 or more if I've spent alot of time with them
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audrey_k
I feel weird asking guys for tips but I know a lot of girls ask or demand them at my club.. I heard a girl arguing with a customer saying "no I want a $100 tip!" and the guy saying he didn't have the money... he overdrew from his ATM account to give it to her though!
My best tips I've gotten and not said anything, just reiterated what the price was and been handed extra money. When I have asked I usually just say "it's going to be x for the dance(s), and tip is up to you." I always get a tip but usually it's like 3 or 4 dollars which doesn't really help me out much.
So do you girls ask for tips, have some good cute lines to use or just hope the customer tips you?
I actually like the line "and the tip is up to you," bc it implies that the customer HAS to tip, in a sense. I used to use "and a tip is appreciated, but not necessary," but I'm going to use this line from now on bc I want to make the customer feel as though it is necessary.
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AmbrosiaSpice
Yeah, same.
I have a problem with asking for a tip when a guy gets like four dances. I feel like I'm over-doing it, but I know it shouldn't be that way. In fact, those are usually the guys with excess money anyway... so I will be getting over this quickly!
Or I'll just say...
"It's $x minimum, and a tip if you enjoyed it." ::wink::
I'm the same way. I usually don't push it too hard of a guy gets 4 or more, but usually the guys bold (and financially able) enough to get that many dances will tip me anyway.
If a guy gets just one, I push the tip pretty hard, but in a cute way, sort of like the one mentioned above ^^
Most guys who get one dance are so broke/cheeap whatever that they still don't tip no matter how cute I am. I feel like saying "Come on dude, it's 5 fucking dollars!!!" but I just smile, chalk them up to a time waster, and move on. I'll usually see said guy doing the same thing to the rest of the girls, then girls stop approaching and he'll usually leave shortly after. Word spreads quick if you are cheap in my club!
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God I really need to muster up the courage to do this!!! The problem is we're not allowed to ask for tips in my club. Hell, the management even gets us in trouble if we give guys crap for sitting at our stages and tipping us nothing..it's so frustrating.
To make things worse, because of the economy management has made all dances $10 (2 for 20 the first set and 10 for every song after) on Sundays through Thursdays.
So I reeeeeally need all the extra cash I can wrangle during the week. I think I'm gonna try out the "It's x dollars and a tip is up to you" line in a sweet voice at the end of a couple songs.
The worst that can happen is they just give you the minimum, right? :)
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I personally never ask for tips. I think it's tacky and rude. If anyone ever asked me for a tip I'd tell them to refrain from eating yellow snow.
Although you may get a few more dollars from Limited Buyers, there is a HUGE potential to turn off the best customers. I wrote about it on this similar thread from last year
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^^ Do you think it could depend on the club, though? I know at the small blue collar club I work at tips can really add up, and there aren't many high rollers coming through the club. (When they do they're the type to tip without you asking, anyway.) So I personally don't feel tacky asking some guys for tips, especially if they were rude or grabby during the dance. But maybe it's different at higher end clubs? I can see how that's tacky if you're making significantly more money.
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Typically no, but it depends on the guy. If a guy is a good customer, then no im not goign to ask for a tip because it will make them feel a bit used and i would like them to return and spend more money on me in the future (maybe i make less immediately, but in the long run it could turn out ot be a better situation).
There are occasions where i hint at, ask for, or sometimes even demand a tip:
Groups of guys who come in and buy dances for their friends: i usually ask for a tip from the guy who got bought a dance. These guys are not really people i see as future customers.
Younger guys who only by a dance or two: sometimes depending on my mood and how polite they were. Soemtimes it reminds them that they are there to spend money instead of taking us home. With most men you want to promote the fantasy, but i find with some guys its better to remind them that you are there for the money instead of promoting the fantasy. Especially if they are under the delusion that i will go home with them or should be giving them discounts because they are so hot that most girls cant keep their hands off of them (yep i actually had a guy tell me this yesterday during a dance while i was playing pattycake to slap his hands off of me).
If I spend a long time talking to someone thinking that it will lead to VIP time and then they only get a dance or two, then i ask for a tip. Especially if its a guy who leads me into thinking that he will buy VIP time with me and then only gets a dance or two. I guess I should be able to weed them out better, but im not perfect. And these guys i dont really need as future customers.
If a guy wastes my time talking only to inform me he doesnt get dances, then i ask for a tip for my time.
If a guy waves me over then proceeds to spend very little or no money, then i demand a tip. If someone actively tells me to join them, then they had better have the courtesy to pay me!
If there is a group of people sitting down for a long time and i dont see them spend any money on dancers, then i will firmly remind them its pay per view. Especially if its a slow night and their group compromises more than half of the customers in the establishment. Yesterday a large group came in when it was slow and i didnt see them spend one dollar on a girl over the course of like 3 hrs. I feel no shame in telling them they should be tipping us.
If someone grabs my ass when I walk by, I will inform them that they owe me money. Actually at my old club where i could get away with a lot, if anyone tried obnoxious stuff I would tell them they had to pay me or i would get the bouncer to kick them out. But that place was a dive, so being tacky to a lot of the obnoxious people who would go through and try to slap my ass wihtout saying hello first did not bother me. The most i got out of this was when some guy tried to trick me into sitting on his dick (which he had out under his jersey) when i introduced myself. i told him he had to pay me 50$ or I would get the bouncer to kick him out. Well he paid me the 50$ and i got him kicked out after that anyway. Normally i am an honest business woman, but since what he did was particularly rude and he tried to trick me to boot, i felt like i deserved 50$ for having to put up with it and he deserved to be fucked out of money and kicked out. That and i didnt want other girls to have to deal with that shit.
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I always ask for tips but I don't really specify any given amount. It's hard for me to demand $50 tip if the customer is already paying me $400 for dances. I usually tell them up front about my dance prices and then include "+ a tip." Most of the time I end up getting $10 or $20 but it's better than nothing!
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Electrum
^^ Do you think it could depend on the club, though? I know at the small blue collar club I work at tips can really add up, and there aren't many high rollers coming through the club. (When they do they're the type to tip without you asking, anyway.) So I personally don't feel tacky asking some guys for tips, especially if they were rude or grabby during the dance. But maybe it's different at higher end clubs? I can see how that's tacky if you're making significantly more money.
it definitely depends on the club- yes, the high end clubs its different if you're trying to cultivate regulars- because regulars usually don't like that sort of thing, however if you're not the type of girl that collects regulars, or you work in a blue collar, wanna dance, bachelor party, tourist only type of place, IMO- you're losing money by not asking for tips.
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britneyireland
I personally never ask for tips. I think it's tacky and rude. If anyone ever asked me for a tip I'd tell them to refrain from eating yellow snow.
Although you may get a few more dollars from Limited Buyers, there is a HUGE potential to turn off the best customers. I wrote about it on this similar thread from last year
+2 I don't ask either. I find that some clubs the guys are used to tipping, and I'm always happy to accept the tips, but I feel that putting tips out as an obligation is very tacky and will lose you customers in the long run. Usually when I am tipped it's more by the customers who are well-to-do and the tip ranges from $20 to $100 for lap dances and sometimes more on VIP.
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My tip-getting strategy has become-
I don't mention anything about a tip until the customer has paid me because I think that bringing it up is a turn off to those who planned to tip you-- they don't really want to be TOLD they have to tip or even reminded or put in a situation where it seems obligatory. My personal theory is that many guys like to tip because it makes them feel better about themselves-- "look at me, I'm such a nice and wealthy guy tipping the stripper!"-- or they want to do something above and beyond because they like you, but they want you to appreciate it and not expect it. Those who tip after being asked or prodded are doing so because they don't want to look like cheap jerks or it really didn't occur to them to tip you. Neither of the latter are really potential long term customers that are going to spend $$ on you, in my opinion, and most likely not club regulars since I think regulars usually tip so they get good dances from all the girls (since everyone talks). So I wait until they hand me my money and if there is no tip I smile sweetly and say something like 'aww you're not going to tip me?" with another cute line. This allows those who wanted to tip to do without being asked (and those are the ones who give the significant tips anyway) and gets a tip, even if its a few bucks, from the cheapies and clueless ones who wouldn't have tipped otherwise (and who I probably won't see again).
On stage I am ruthless however and should probably tone it down. If a customer sits at the tip rail and doesn't offer up a dollar I will raise my eyebrows at him and pause in front of him as I gather my clothes. One guy sat at the tip rail and wouldn't tip a single girl going up on stage a week ago. I went up and danced and when he didn't offer up a dollar lifted my hands up at him and said "really? you've got nothing in your pocket?" He looked annoyed and embarassed and put a crumpled up dollar he looked like he looked like he pulled out of his ass on the stage. I kicked it back on his lap and replied "I think you need this more than I do" and walked offstage. Guys who come in for a free stage show and sit at the tip rail piss me off like no other, but other customers seem to find my bitchyness amusing and it has worked in my favor a few times...
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I always try to ask for a tip and upsell. Basically I tell the guys before the dance I can give you a standard $20 dance or I can make it more interesting with head stands acrobatics flexibility. That would be $25/$30 per dance. Or standard dance plus $5/$10 tip per dance. I think you should get tipped for lapdances. Society say you always have to tip waiter, hair dressers etc. I am dancing for you and getting up close and personal dancing on your lap I think I deserve a tip. Tips are for good service. If I'm giving you an out of this world dance I deserve a tip.
Tighter customers I would drop at hint when I explain the prices of dances but I think I made such great money when I was full time dancing because I always asked for tips. I mean guys come to strip clubs to spend money. Ask and you shall receive!
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they are putty in my hand, but I just can't bring myself to do it.
but what the hey, I'm gonna try what AmbrosiaSpice said>>> Tonight!!