Extending LDs and VIP w/Tightwad
I've read threads containing info on how to extend LDs and VIPs w/customers who seem more willing to spend $$$, but what about those who make it clear from the start that they don't have much $$$ to spend, or that they have set themselves a budget for the night?
I'm good @ extending things when the customer doesn't tell me up front that he only has $35 to spend. I was actually proud of myself last night because: I got one guy who never gets dances to get not one, but 2 dances from me; I got a guy who said he only had $35 to spend get an LD and a room with me, I got another guy who claims to never get dances (not sure about this one bc I'd never seen him before) and who said he didn't have much money to get 2 dances, and some other thing...I forget lol. Anyhow, this may be normal for some of you, but I'm used to people who actually come to the club w/intent to spend money...I'm not used to these types of people.
My question is...how do I hustle them further? To get the guys to get 2nd dances, I basically told them how we were all warmed up, how it def felt like they liked the 1st one, how much fun I was having, etc. It felt like pulling teeth to get the 2nd...how would I get the 3rd? Also...well I rarely even get extended VIPs...I read that you have to talk more than I do...but if anyone wants to offer any other info on that, please feel free.
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hrm...so either this is a really dumb question or nobody knows :-/
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Try easing into your dances slower and getting to know the moves your customer likes the most. When you get near the end of the song start incorporating more high contact moves and grinding so he gets super worked up-- guys will say yes to anything once they're horny enough. Keep teasing him so he is spending money, hoping for more. There's also always something that the customer is hoping for and loves. I did some dances and pulled HARD on this guys hair. He loved it and didn't want to leave the lap dance booth.
Everyone has a credit card nowadays and so there is unlimited money in each customer. However some really just DON'T have the $ for it and manipulating them in multiple dances will just leave your pissed and unpaid.
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Especially with the manufacturing recession where I'm from sometimes it truly is like trying to get blood from a stone. My advice is if your finding too many people are financially restricted, try to work faster. If it's a tough day, you need to be a quick bitch. 30 x 20 dollar dances is still $600. Sometimes quantity is as good as quality. :)
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Respect him and his budget. If he is a Green in the Logical Mode IN THIS ECONOMY you are better off in the long run making him a regular customer that will come back and get 2-5 dances from you each week (thats $400 in a month) than you are trying to squeeze 2-300 out of him in one night and then he never comes back again because he now has proof that he cannot stick to his budget.
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^^^I agree. I try to respect the budget. They DO have budgets. They aren't everlasting money bags.. Girls I work with always put the hard pressure sale on guys and try to squeeze every last drop out of them. If you've done all you can do and they are saying no, they can't do it, I try to be understanding. We all know we can pressure a guy into the sale, but is it worth losing a customer over? If he is really serious and I feel like I am being manipulative (b/c we all know we can get him to do it if we really try) I tend to back off and be understanding. Hopefully he will appreciate I quit pushing and will come back next time.
(by the way, I just subscribed to your itunes! :))
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During the dot.com bust I had one regular customer who came in EVERY DAY and bought 2 $10 lapdances from me. Thats $100/week ($400/month) that I didn't have to think about. Don't write off the Limited Buyers, over time it adds up.
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ya i agree. if a customer comes in and is spending money and is polite, there is nothing wrong with him having a budget. I have no bad feelings for a customer who comes in a couple of times a month and buys a few dances each time. At least that is more money in our pockets... so it is better that he is there buying only a few dances than comes in once and is heckled for more money until he decides it is a miserable experience and doesnt want to return.
Now the ones who come in and dont spend any money... fuck them. I dont want them to return ;).