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Any polite way to turn down half of a package deal?
Last time i was at a SC a girl came up to me from behind and whispered in my ear if i wanted to go to the vip with two pussies at once (her words), im not rich or anything so i don't normally drop that much cash in one night but this being a special occasion (big 3-0) i figured hey why the hell not, the girl was incredibly hot and dirty talk always has an effect ya know? that is, until i turned around and saw the other girl she was talking about was very homely and incredibly fucking pregnant. I'm talking at least 7-8 months, and she'd obviously put on some weight on top of the pregnancy. I can understand what the first girl was doing and thats incredibly noble of her, she would obviously be doing a lot more business on her own but the other girl would have no chance at all. The thing is theres just no way that would have been an enjoyable experience at all, i turned her down as politely as i could but what i really wanted was to deal with just her, would it have been a complete jerk move to say that? both girls were right there so i couldn't have done it privately.
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would it have been a complete jerk move to say that? both girls were right there so i couldn't have done it privately.
Yeah it would have.
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^^ stressed I disagree. I would have dismissed them without a second thought. I hate aggressive tag teaming.
FBR
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what i really wanted was to deal with just her, would it have been a complete jerk move to say that? both girls were right there so i couldn't have done it privately.
let me clarify what i meant
is this better
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FBR
^^ stressed I disagree. I would have dismissed them without a second thought. I hate aggressive tag teaming.
FBR
The thing is, i only wanted to dismiss the one.
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Understand tag teaming. Are you a new clubber?
FBR
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Better to dismiss both than have to dance with both when you don't want to. I cannot think of a graceful way to accomplish this. Maybe say no at that point, then try to catch the dancer you want by herself later?
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Wow, this is a tricky situation. Maybe you could have just whispered to the one you liked that that sounds great...but you came to the club with a budget to take one dancer to VIP?
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I view tag teaming as an insult. Usually there is a fairly hot dancer and another who is way less so who can't make money on her own. It is very irritating. That is why I would dismiss both to a) let #2 know she should get another job outside of stripping and b) give #1 an object lesson.
FBR
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I do agree to dismiss both, i just could not and do not see anyway of getting the other girl alone without hurting someones feelings. Granted they decided to do this together and i understand why. But no girl is going to cause me to hurt anothers feelings. I will look for another dancer, before i do that. Yeah it might sound lame to some of you. But why do it---there is just no need in it. There are plenty of girls to choose from. I am sure this girl is already feeling rough about herself and i know it is not our duty to make her feel any better, but damn we dont need to pile it on either.
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^ stressed I have no problem with not wanting to hurt feelings but you have to remember the environment you are in. Being a good guy (I am a good guy too) doesn't get you squat in casual dancing. Over time with a regular gal, yes but otherwise, no. In the OP's example, he had a dancer who he was attracted to dragging along another dancer who can't make money own her own. Basically the girl he liked wanted him to pay double. I don't see putting up with that.
FBR
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I agree but in this exact case, if you were extremely attracted to one dancer would you (FBR) throw it out there that you just wanted her or would you just look for another dancer
You dont seem like you would do that even if it did piss you off.
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Elvia
Wow, this is a tricky situation. Maybe you could have just whispered to the one you liked that that sounds great...but you came to the club with a budget to take one dancer to VIP?
Well one hour of vip was 300 dollars, each. That was slightly more than i was willing to spend for the whole night, but i would have considered it if i thought it was worth it as it was a special occasion.
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I would have just said, "Oh I don't think I can afford/handle two girls at once. I'm sorry but do you think the VIP could just the two of us???" As long as you don't insult the other dancer by calling her names or say something like "I'll pay for you but NOT for THAT!" then its all good. If her feelings are hurt, then too bad she can't be so sensitive in this business. When me and another dancer friend of mine ask for doubles we have run into custies that only wanted one of us. I wasn't offended, the guys were not rude and I wanted to see my friend make money. This is a SC, any dancer should be used to rejection, and if she is fat, homely, and preggo, then she really should not be there.
(And No, she nor I was fat or homely, but we are vastly different. She is a hot, petite, redhead with small perky boobs, and I am a tall hot black chick with big fake boobies, we did sell to plenty of men but of course we encountered men who did not "take" to one of us. No biggie)
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FBR
I view tag teaming as an insult. Usually there is a fairly hot dancer and another who is way less so who can't make money on her own. It is very irritating. That is why I would dismiss both to a) let #2 know she should get another job outside of stripping and b) give #1 an object lesson.
FBR
I agree. Honestly, I can't even stand watching my coworkers tag-team guys. Makes them seem like they can't handle entertaining on their own--like they aren't interesting enough to give a one-woman dance. They have to drag another girl back there so they can do faux-girlie-on-girlie stuff and pay no attention to the customer. ::)
I agree with hot4ablackchick--you should've said something like "I only have money for one girl tonight, and I've had my eye on you since your last stage set. Do you mind if we go together?" or something equally respectful.
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FBR
I view tag teaming as an insult. Usually there is a fairly hot dancer and another who is way less so who can't make money on her own. It is very irritating. That is why I would dismiss both to a) let #2 know she should get another job outside of stripping and b) give #1 an object lesson.
FBR
I completely agree with this too, and imo you did the right thing by turning down both dancers. It was completely rude of her to put you in that position, so instead of rewarding her rudeness by spending money on her, you sent her away. I can't think of a better way to have handled it and if you were even polite about it that's even better.
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Wow. Both charlie and JayATee agree with me :) I am excited. I now have wood which is a rarity these days. I know the wood will shrivel soon but thank you, ladies, for the memory }:D
FBR
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hot4ablackchick
I would have just said, "Oh I don't think I can afford/handle two girls at once.
When I get double teamed that's exactly what I say "Oh sorry, but I'm not man enough to handle 2 hot ladies at one time. It's just too much tits, ass and legs for me.".
Although, I have told the dancer that I liked that I would only like a dance from her and not her tag team partner, but I told the partner directly that her partner was more my type and thanked her for understanding and wished her a good night.
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Don't let your guard down FBR. I think it is a trap. Or, someone hacked JayAtee's account.
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How about just compromising. Tell the one you are interested in that you wouldn't mind watching her being undressed and making out with her girlfriend in your lap for one dance...but once she is naked you don't want any distractions. So you flip in an extra twenty or thirty bucks for the effort.
I've done this a couple of times. It's a great way to get things started, especially if there is good chemistry with the girls, and it's more realistic for my finances.
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CalifSCVisitor65
When I get double teamed that's exactly what I say "Oh sorry, but I'm not man enough to handle 2 hot ladies at one time. It's just too much tits, ass and legs for me.".
OMFG that is corny.
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hockeybobby
How about just compromising. Tell the one you are interested in that you wouldn't mind watching her being undressed and making out with her girlfriend in your lap for one dance...but once she is naked you don't want any distractions. So you flip in an extra twenty or thirty bucks for the effort.
I've done this a couple of times. It's a great way to get things started, especially if there is good chemistry with the girls, and it's more realistic for my finances.
HB, we are back to the nice guy thing again. I just can't see enabling a bad idea which actually costs the worthy dancers money. IMO what you call "the effort" is lame and doesn't justify tips, even pity tips.
FBR
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FBR
HB, we are back to the nice guy thing again. I just can't see enabling a bad idea which actually costs the worthy dancers money. IMO what you call "the effort" is lame and doesn't justify tips, even pity tips.
FBR
Yea. There is a big difference between being passive, assertive, and aggressive. I just see this as healthy assertive to say no in this situation. It sucks but we can't make everyone happy all the time. Saying no, doesn't make us not-nice. I've been in this position and the answer was no. But it does remind me of a story...
Of a "nice" Marine on leave who came out of the VIP later out $800 poorer (price of 2 dancers) and was broke, and very NOT happy about it.... for him it was money he couldn't afford, and he didn't know how to say "no, I can't afford to pay two of you". In the end he traded his happiness for a strangers; a pure wash at best, and utterly pointless in the long run.
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I would also have declined both. I hate being tag teamed, even when they're both hot. If I want two dancers, I'll pick two girls, lol.
That said, I've been in sales for years and a really smooth close is always rewarded. So I'm goig to make a long annoying post and tell a good story.
There was one dancer at my old haunt that was insanely hot, and had a bad reputation for being a manhater and giving horrible dances. There was another dancer who had a very different kind of reputation, who did not interest me despite being quit attractive in her own rite. They don't tag team, in fact they don't even really like each other. But #2 enters the story because she was sitting next to #1 when I approached. Anyway...
One night I told my now SO - "I'm going to get a dance from xxxxxx just because I've always tipped her onstage and she lovely, and she can't be THAT bad, I have to find out". And we laughed and I went to get a dance from her. She was sitting next to the other girl, and since they all know me to some degree or another (I was a long time regular there) I approached a little differently. Now neither of these dancers had attempted to sell me a dance in a long time, as they both knew I had my regular girls. In fact, the one I wanted rarely sold dances at all because she had so many scheduled visits.
Anyway, I approach where they're sitting, and girl #2 starts the convo before I ask for the dance. So we chat for a sec - all 3 of us - and then I say to the dancer that I wanted to buy from "Okay here's the thing. I'm not going to name names, but I've heard from several other girls that you give terrible dances. You are so amazing onstage that I just have to, after coming here all this time, buy at least one dance from you so I know". She laughed and of course wanted to know who said those things, and of course I wouldn't tell.
And girl #2 - smooth as can be - says "Well she gives GREAT dances, and so do I, and you are going to LOVE both of us at once. Let's go!" And she got up and waited.
At first this was awkward. I had NO intention of buying two dances, or if I did then they'd be from #1. But it was SO smooth, and such a perfect example of the assumptive close, that I just went with it, lol.
#1 gave a great dance, and while I love 2 on 1, I would have preferred just her, but #2 is cute to and it was a good time, lol.
okay I'm done now...