explain strange (yet common) customer behavior?
Ok, 2 questions.
1) why do so many customers try to blow on the dancers during a private dance? I work in a no contact area, so maybe that has something to do with it. But I still don't see what a customergets out of blowing on my boobs, or back, or what exactly they think I'm getting out of it.
2) Another weird behavior I've never understood. What is with customers coming up to the rack, and rubbing a dollar bill on the tip rail? Not setting it down, just holding it and rubbing it back and forth, sometimes for the entire fucking song. About half the time they fold it in half lengthwise, if that's a clue. I use to think this meant they wanted me to come over and dance in front of them for a moment. But then I do, since I dance in front of everyone at the rack for at least a few seconds, and they keep doing it. They don't even try to put it in my costume or anything. What does this mean? Besides "I'm an asshole", since these guys always reveal themselves to be royal whiney douchebags later on. But what message are they trying to send via this strange ritual?
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I have had some dancers blow on me. Perhaps they think it turns me on. It does not. Perhaps the customers do it for the same reason, but that is just a guess.
I can only guess on the second question, also. I think it is to "make you work for it." Maybe they think if they hold on to it, you will give them a sexier move or something. Personally, when I see that, I like to use it to my advantage. I like to put a conspicuously high tip down so she will ignore them and their one dollar (maybe) tip, for my more substantial one. That feeds my own fantasy that the dancer likes me more, because mine is bigger than theirs -- tip or something else, it makes no difference. It's my fantasy so I can pretend what I want. }:D
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The "blowing on" question has been asked before and if I remember correctly the general answer from customers was that it's a way of them getting to touch you without actually being able to.
Other guys have said it's so they can try to "smell you" when they breathe back in.
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Elvia
Ok, 2 questions.
1) why do so many customers try to blow on the dancers during a private dance? I work in a no contact area, so maybe that has something to do with it. But I still don't see what a customergets out of blowing on my boobs, or back, or what exactly they think I'm getting out of it.
2) Another weird behavior I've never understood. What is with customers coming up to the rack, and rubbing a dollar bill on the tip rail? Not setting it down, just holding it and rubbing it back and forth, sometimes for the entire fucking song. About half the time they fold it in half lengthwise, if that's a clue. I use to think this meant they wanted me to come over and dance in front of them for a moment. But then I do, since I dance in front of everyone at the rack for at least a few seconds, and they keep doing it. They don't even try to put it in my costume or anything. What does this mean? Besides "I'm an asshole", since these guys always reveal themselves to be royal whiney douchebags later on. But what message are they trying to send via this strange ritual?
The thrusting folded dollar thing sounds like he is using it as a penis metaphor. And if is only using a dollar, he has a pretty small self image :)
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Most guys think that when they blow on you they might be able to "stimulate" you without breaking any rules by touching you. I do agree though, I am not exactly thrilled with it.
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gameover
The thrusting folded dollar thing sounds like he is using it as a penis metaphor. And if is only using a dollar, he has a pretty small self image :)
that made me LOL
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Don't know about the blowing or repeated rubbing (nerves? attention seeking?), but I do the long folding... it's so you don't have to try and pick it up off a dirty floor. Flat bills on a dirty floor are hard to pick up without the entire surface of the bill getting filthy. Folder it is easier to pick up and only the very edge touches the floor, so less dirt.
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dont understand neither but then again some of the chit i have heard on hear i dont understand most of it anyway. I actually hate stage tipping and will give the money to a waitress half the time. I dont like to be up there and most of the time if i do go i cant wait till she gets to me so i can give the money and ask her to come see me. Haha lots of times i will go to give her the money before she finishes giving me the little dance....I am shy
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Pretty_Penny
The "blowing on" question has been asked before and if I remember correctly the general answer from customers was that it's a way of them getting to touch you without actually being able to.
Other guys have said it's so they can try to "smell you" when they breathe back in.
Has lack of human contact actually driven some poor bastards to do these types of things?
That is so very, very sad. :'(
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Unfortunately (or fortunately), I don't participate in either behaviour so I can only surmise the reasons for them.
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Pretty_Penny
The "blowing on" question has been asked before and if I remember correctly the general answer from customers was that it's a way of them getting to touch you without actually being able to.
Other guys have said it's so they can try to "smell you" when they breathe back in.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...h_yeahthat.gif +1 on both counts. I believe the majority of customers who blow in dancers are intentionally trying to provoke physiological reactions. And there are definitely "smellers" http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...6/th_sniff.gif among them, some more obvious than others. Even though it's a disturbing sight, it's nearly impossible to avert your eyes.
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xdamage
I do the long folding... it's so you don't have to try and pick it up off a dirty floor. Flat bills on a dirty floor are hard to pick up without the entire surface of the bill getting filthy. Folder it is easier to pick up and only the very edge touches the floor, so less dirt.
Hmm, that's interesting x. I never considered that as a potential reason for the stage tip lengthwise bill fold. I had chalked it up to one the following possibilities:
- To make it more visible to the dancer to ensure that she claims it. I've seen dancers miss out on stage tips simply because they didn't notice them.
- To make it more visible to the dancer to entice her to spend time in front of him sooner. A self serving but effective action, particularly in regions where stage tipping is infrequent.
- To make it more visible to other customers in an attempt to stand out and above the crowd.
When I tip at the stage, I fold it in the middle much like a "wallet fold" in an attempt to keep the denomination tipped somewhat discreet yet still visible enough to the dancer to collect. I'll usually tip a $20 bill and am, perhaps unjustly, self-conscious about how it's perceived by the other customers. I worry that some guys who would normally tip a smaller bill would refrain from tipping either because they're afraid their tip doesn't measure up or because they believe the dancer has earned enough already. At the same time, I don't want to have to worry about getting the evil eye from other customers to the point that I can't enjoy myself at the club.
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Bob_Loblaw
Hmm, that's interesting x. I never considered that as a potential reason for the stage tip lengthwise bill fold. I had chalked it up to one the following possibilities:
- To make it more visible to the dancer to ensure that she claims it. I've seen dancers miss out on stage tips simply because they didn't notice them.
- To make it more visible to the dancer to entice her to spend time in front of him sooner. A self serving but effective action, particularly in regions where stage tipping is infrequent.
- To make it more visible to other customers in an attempt to stand out and above the crowd.
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Those interpretations are reasonable I think, especially for someone who can barely afford to be there and for which each dollar is significant and they are worried about maximizing every dollar.
But I actually hang out at the stage for a slightly bizarro reason. I really am an introvert, by which I don't mean shy. I'm not shy, I just don't like small time chit-chat, or ritualistic talking. It burns me out fast, and I know precisely what I want anyway.
Hanging out at the stage is about the cheapest way there is in a SC to enjoy a drink in peace (at some clubs anyway, some it doesn't matter) without having to answer "No Thanks" every minute. It's only a $1 or $2 a song and even after an hour of that it's pretty cheap entertainment.
But for me it's not to get special attention, often I don't even watch the stage show, but rather it is to avoid the majority of wanna-dance?, enjoy my drink, get acclimated, and after a couple of drinks I just go ask the dancer I'm interested in for dances.
I do get that dancers have to sell themselves, but it is not just SCs for me, it is everywhere. I'm one of those people who doesn't like to be sold; doesn't like sales people because I enjoy my buying experiences more choosing myself, without having to pretend to be interested/nice to them (which usually I'm not feeling and have a terrible time hiding, especially when I have my own ideas of what I want and don't want to be sold on something I don't).
p.s., try it some time... try picking up money that is layed out flat on floor. It generally means putting your fingers under it, on the dirty floor, to lift it which means getting your hands very dirty. Then try it when it is folded lengthwise and you can put a finger under it. Works well. Still need to wash your hands but the amount of grime is less. I'm not a germ a phobe, but I sure don't love putting my hands all over a dirty floor ;)
;)
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xdamage
But I actually hang out at the stage for a slightly bizarro reason. I really am an introvert, by which I don't mean shy. I'm not shy, I just don't like small time chit-chat, or ritualistic talking. It burns me out fast, and I know precisely what I want anyway.
Hanging out at the stage is about the cheapest way there is in a SC to enjoy a drink in peace (at some clubs anyway, some it doesn't matter) without having to answer "No Thanks" every minute. It's only a $1 or $2 a song and even after an hour of that it's pretty cheap entertainment.
But for me it's not to get special attention, often I don't even watch the stage show, but rather it is to avoid the majority of wanna-dance?, enjoy my drink, get acclimated, and after a couple of drinks I just go ask the dancer I'm interested in for dances.
That actually makes perfect sense if club etiquette do's and don'ts include not approaching customers stage side while another dancer is on stage.
That used to be the norm up here but it seems to have all but faded away over time with the influx of new girls and the departure of experienced ones. In fact, it seems the guys at stage are usually the first to be approached now.
My preference is to sit at the back of the club. It allows me to have a complete view of the club and gives me the best vantage point to people watch which is all part of the entertainment for me. It also reduces instances of being approached from behind which is a huge peeve of mine and I seem to encounter fewer wanna dance girls.
[/end threadjack] Sorry guys... ok, let's get this tread back on track.
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xdamage
especially for someone who can barely afford to be there and for which each dollar is significant and they are worried about maximizing every dollar.
It's probably that, combined with their frustration over how some dancers don't view that same dollar as significant and won't "demean themselves" for it by throwing the guy a bone. So the guy then develops this holding-onto-the-dollar body language as if to say, "Well? Are you going to earn it? Or are you one of those who thinks this money just falls out of the sky as part of your birthright? Because I had to work for it, so I'm at least going to remind you of that before you whisk it away from me." You know, that kind of silly thinking, which I've obviously never shared. (I stopped doing this a couple years ago.) Also, it could be an equality issue with some guys at the tiprail---maybe the last 3 dancers have paid attention to the other guy at the rail and not him. Which has left him jealous and leary of letting this pattern drag on any further.
As for blowing on others, one time a friend was shopping and someone came up behind her and........ INHALED REALLY HARD. Like he totally wanted to get a whiff of her (not just sort of.) It wierded her out for the rest of the day, but made for an entertaining convo. I'm surprised strippers don't run into this more often.
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Blowing? Who knows. I can only imagine one would do this to cool you off like a fan. Maybe they think they are cooling you off.
The other thing I don't even understand.
How about unusual and common stripper behaviors? Here are a couple I think are quite annoying....
(1) Stripper puts tongue in ear....yikes!
(2) Air dances!
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1) EWWWWW! IN the ear?!! good god!
2) most places I've worked, it's the law. when it hasn't been, and I've done it anyway, it's because the guy chose to ignore my requests to behave himself.
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johnnytwoshoes
The other thing I don't even understand.
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(2) Air dances!
Actually in most cities/towns, assuming you had the legal training and want to know, touching is against the law, or like in Vegas, sexual arousal is against the law, which means what? Nobody seems to be sure. It's a kind of case of, LDs are not clearly prohibited but also there is a loophole/backdoor option to arrest dancers (and customers) if LE wants to do so.
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The Boob
"Well? Are you going to earn it? Or are you one of those who thinks this money just falls out of the sky as part of your birthright? Because I had to work for it, so I'm at least going to remind you of that before you whisk it away from me."
Those guys can sincerely go fuck themselves. I'm earning it by dancing around naked for them. If they had to work harder than that for a lousy buck then perhaps their money would be better spent on some education and their time could be spent finding a decent job rather than working for a job where a substantial amount of their time is spent earning ONE dollar.
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The Boob
...So the guy then develops this holding-onto-the-dollar body language as if to say, "Well? Are you going to earn it? Or are you one of those who thinks this money just falls out of the sky as part of your birthright? Because I had to work for it, so I'm at least going to remind you of that before you whisk it away from me." You know, that kind of silly thinking, which I've obviously never shared. (I stopped doing this a couple years ago.)
True that thinking is common.
In the 80s it was clear, back when stripping was about dancing and stripping, not about selling LDs. If you can't afford to tip or don't want top tip, then you don't go to the T&A bar, you go to a regular bar or nightclub.
But today there are mixed messages in SCs. The club owners welcome broke guys to come in to buy over priced drinks; as long as cover is paid and drinks bought, they are allowed to stay. I don't know if club owners cannot legally intervene, or just don't, when customers are too poor or cheap to tip.
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xdamage
True that thinking is common.
In the 80s it was clear, back when stripping was about dancing and stripping, not about selling LDs. If you can't afford to tip or don't want top tip, then you don't go to the T&A bar, you go to a regular bar or nightclub.
But today there are mixed messages in SCs. The club owners welcome broke guys to come in to buy over priced drinks; as long as cover is paid and drinks bought, they are allowed to stay. I don't know if club owners cannot legally intervene, or just don't, when customers are too poor or cheap to tip.
Since SC's are privately owned establishments I don't think there are any laws preventing managers from interfering. (Several of the clubs I worked at were "private establishments" where you had to sign your name to the guest list before entering, which from what I was told gave the owners even more rights over controlling the patrons behavior.) I have worked at 2 different clubs where certain managers would tell the guys they had to tip or leave the stage (not the club, but still better than nothing). Some of these guys had bought drinks, and of course got very irate. I just wish managers like that were more common.
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The dollar thing, I've never seen. I can't even picture it.
Blowing...if on the front, likely as not it's to try to get your nipples to stand up. I don't blow on people, but I've had a lot of dancers blow on me (ears, neck, and the occasional crotch). I guess some people think it works.