A guy told me today that if you play the bitch role with a customer he'll keep the money coming!?
Is this true?
Thoughts?
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A guy told me today that if you play the bitch role with a customer he'll keep the money coming!?
Is this true?
Thoughts?
Its possible - once ended up with a reg who was a sub, and kept coming back cause I slapped him. I've seen a lot of girls who worked the "bitch" thing. Honestly, I find it hard - I make money by making them feel like we have a real connection. If you can pull it off - give it a shot! I think that this one is just personal pref though - and along with appearance, its the pitch that really matters!
I think it depends on the situation. I always like to
let it be known that my affection is a privlage and reward for continued good behavior, not a right.
The following is from an article on salon.com this week about a book titled "Why Women Have Sex," a new book by clinical psychologist Cindy M. Meston and evolutionary psychologist David M. Buss, two researchers at the University of Texas at Austin
"Another tactic that they use with very attractive women is what they call the "neg," which is the opposite of a compliment. It’s a signal that they’re not desperate, that they are high in mate value, and it also possibly has the effect of lowering the woman’s self-perception of her own desirability."
I thought this was interesting because I have been using this tactic lately with knowing exactly why it worked.
Example:
Guy: "so what exactly do you do in the champagne room?"
Me: laugh at him then say with a smile "sugar, I thought you looked smarter than that. If you dont already know, I don't have all night to explain."
Very clever!
I vary my approach based on the guy but i can do hardcore bitch very well and make money from it. I can also do sweet and innocent. I prefer being a bitch though. Especially with the guys who keep you on your toes and get off on it, but it can become draining.
When I first started, one of my clubs top earners told me I was too nice, and said if I wanted to make the kinda cash she was raking in, I should get a bitchy 'tude pronto. So I did, and I BANKED! Best advice ever! I dunno why, but it gets guys (the ones w/TONS of disposable income, at least) to beg you to take their money. Oh, okay. Ya don't have to twist my arm! :)
Yeah I think it works with the alpha-male guys. They are just itching for someone to put them in their place. Although I rarely to it with these types. I do however use it on the rich, smart, geeky guy. I'm a bit of a geek myself, so I don't really think less of them I just think it gets more $$. But basically I get them to like me and when the spending slows, I go cold. If they ask for a date I laugh at them. God it's so mean...I might go to hell.
I once heard a girl scream at her customer, "Go to the ATM and cash out you cunt!" hahaha. And he did.
lmao ^^^ wow. i think im gonna just gonna dig real deep and see what comes out of me.. the sexual/topless side of me. when i put on my outfit i feel super sexy, super confident and kinda sweet but my natural attitude is kinda bitchy/bossy sometimes but its suppressed by whats expected of me at the job im currently at. so i think if im given PERMISSION to be a bitch, its allllllllll badddddd lol!
It's not necessarily being a bitch. It's not reacting to their trips, and setting some standards.
If you've ever read the book Why Men Love Bitches one of the best quotes is:
"If we do it your way it'll be one sided. If we do it my way it will be fair and reciprocal."
I charge a lot of money for my dances and make it verbally clear on the high dollar that pussy is off limits. If they try and grab a boob I move their hands with a smile.
Now if every girl did this men will keep coming back waiting to hit the jack pot with the dancer with no standards.
My old club we used to make bank because it was a given that the women are in control and not the men. You want more you pay more. There will be no discounts because its: slow, the end of the month, a lot of "competition", the promise of more money.
These days with the advent of the pick up artist communities going mainstream girls are sloppy at handling men.
Sorry that is the truth. More girls need to get a back bone. That is how you keep a man and that is how you keep making money in practically any business.
Bitch and asshole are not related terms. Asshole means a fake person with low self esteem. Bitch means a woman with a little pride who doesn't give assholes the time of day.
Women are bitchy by nature. (think PMS)
Be 90% sweet and unleash the other 10% as needed.
Asshole = dumb.
Bitch = smart.
Smart guy = not an asshole.
Dumb girl = puts up with assholes.
When I continually hear this "act like an asshole" crap all it makes me think of is men trying to beat women at their own game that NATURE gave us. So to act like an asshole is to act like a woman in my opinion.
/rant
The funny part is the neg is how younger and more desirable women act. Uninhibited and says the first thing that comes out of their mouths. This is not a bad thing but some males have egos of fine crystal. (Which is why they need the help of PUA tactics. (That is not understanding women or people those are counterattacks and tit for tat.)
A guy tried to pull the neg on me once I politely said: "Well I have to move on now."
He yelled to me in desperation: "Come back!"
So much for his neg. I was naturally a woman who doesn't put up with a persons shit. He was fabricated and reduced himself to putty when the game didn't go as logically planned.
I have a regular whom I treat like shit and he happens to love it and keeps him coming back for more. One time I requested he bring me food, and he did and when I tasted it it was so bland that I slapped him in the face and yelled at him and he was like instantly in love. Some guys are really into the sub thing.
This is a great thread.
Scarletrose: I love that example and will use it asap!
It has to be the right guy. Some guys really like to be treated like dirt, and will pay the right girl a lot of money for the privilege of being snubbed. You just have to be careful, as they aren't all that prolific.
I remember once a guy was asking all the girls that came to his table why they all "hated" him so much, and of course the girls responded with "I don't hate you, I think you are nice." or something like that. I was pretty busy, so when he asked me if I hated him, I just shot back with, "Yeah. You're a dirt bag, why do you ask?" and he handed me $50 and told me to come find him later.;)
He wanted to be insulted, but not all customers want this. You just have to really watch their responses to you to make sure you aren't shooting yourself in the foot.