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first time private party, and also first girl on girl show
Just wondering what its like doing a lesbian type show for the first time.
Closest i have come to this is kissing my friend drunk at a party and grabbing her breast
i sort of got me self in a predicament where i said i was keen thinking it was just 2 individual shows. But now found out its not, its this saturday and i tried pulling out but she said its not possible. She has taken the booking, told her i have never done anything like this before and she said don't worry she well do all the work i just need to lay there ??
Kinda freaking out a bit, alot, hence i've joined the board, normally stare clear of the net and forums as i have had some bad experiences in the past with forums
thanks Tracey
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Re: first time private party, and also first girl on girl show
It depends. I've never done "hard" girl on girl shows (ie doing actual oral), but more of the softer (pretending to do things but not really). From what I know of this (having booked a few but not doing them) varies. Some guys just want to see two girls undressing each other. Others just want to see them kiss. Others (the more hardcore) want to see all of the above, in addition to toys, and oral. From memory (I'm talking the hardcore) it often starts undressing, then kissing, maybe sucking on the breast. After that maybe toys or oral (or both). I've also knew someone who did girl on girl oil wrestling. From what the dancers have told me they often like these better because the guys love to watch.
Just follow her lead and see where it goes. If it is hardcore and you're not comfortable (I wouldn't be either) just tell her. Otherwise maybe you could pretend to do things but not really (this is why long hair sometimes works dancing).
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It's easy to fake it, especially if you have longish hair. Just get your head down there close and move it around.
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well guess i'm glad i have long hair, i just wish she had long hair too, thinking i need to give her a call and find out more, or might be better to just find out on the night
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Since she doesn't have long hair you could give and she could receive.
If you really aren't comfortable doing girl on girl, don't do it. You have to be OK with what you're doing.
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not sure if i want to go through with it, but curiosity is one thing, also some times been out of the comfort zone can be a good thing, guess its just a unknown, and tell i do it i won't no, hope that makes sense, i have a headach trying to get words out to describe it
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Is it illegal to perform oral sex on a woman you work with if you are being paid at the party to "perform"? Isn't that prostitution in a way?
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umm no idea, but it happens in the industry
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Laurisa
Is it illegal to perform oral sex on a woman you work with if you are being paid at the party to "perform"? Isn't that prostitution in a way?
I think it's sort of in the same situation as making a porno. I don't really think it's considered prostitution due to a technicality. I remember a story years ago where a local porno actress charged guys to make videos with her. She got busted for prostitution but it was thrown out because they claimed it was pornography and not prostitution.
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should still be sleeping but am counting the hours down tell performance time. Thinking for the first dance i'm going to use me cop out fit, down the pants, not his under wear, and slap him with the batten. Then get him on all fours, hand cuff him around a table leg or some thing similar, slap the ass again then slip a condom on the batten and push it past his face, see if he panics big time, hope he sees a funny side to it afterwards, and second performance still not sure on, all i need is a bikini apparently
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i found out its a 18th birthday party
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I think it's sort of in the same situation as making a porno. I don't really think it's considered prostitution due to a technicality. I remember a story years ago where a local porno actress charged guys to make videos with her. She got busted for prostitution but it was thrown out because they claimed it was pornography and not prostitution.
Based on most recent US court precedents, a porn actress engaging in sexual behavior / sex acts ON CAMERA is protected under the first amendment as well as a technicality that the porn actress is being paid to perform in accordance with a script (even though the script may call for sex acts LOL) ... and as such the sexual behavior / sex acts performed by a porn actress during a 'legitimate' video production is not considered to be prostitution. The 'legitimate' production provision stems from a previous loophole which had allowed a porn actress prostitute and her customer to escape prostitution charges as long as a video camera recorded them having sex !
On the other hand, in general a girl-girl show on a club stage or in a private party venue CAN legally be considered as prostitution in some states since A. there is no 'legitimate' production taking place that would invole first amendment protections, B. the girls are engaging in actual sex acts or sexual behavior (i.e. simulated sex acts), and C. the girls are being tipped / paid as a direct and immediate result of engaging in actual or simulated sex acts (as compared to a porn actress being paid well after the fact).
However, this is dependent on specifics of local prostitution laws - which vary in regard to whether or not their definition of prostitution includes a requirement that the persons paying for the actual sex acts or sexual behavior are active participants in those actual sex acts or sexual behavior. For example, Texas does not make such a distinction ( thus a girl-girl show is chargeable under state prostitution laws ) whereas New York does make such a distinction ( thus a girl-girl show is not chargeable under state prostitution laws ... but could be charged under lewd conduct statutes ).
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Maybe you should meet up with her and go through a run through? Not a full on reheasal, but I think it would help your nerves if you at least knew what was going to happen
oh....just realized that you've already done your thing. Well, if anyone else runs into this problem, there's my two cents >.>
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ok, dead done, first part went really well, had the birthday boy handcuffed on all 4's around the leg of a pool table, and jeans around his ankles, wacked him on the bum with the batten. Then slipped a condom on to it and slide it past his face so he could see it, he shat him self and was trying to wriggle under the table while pretending i was going to use it on him.
Second show, i wasn't sure what i should be feeling, think i was just in a little bit of adreniline shock the whole time, started off both in bikinis, stripping each other etc, ended up me laying on pool table, her sitting on me facing the opposite way, lifting me legs then pushing them apart and licking her way down there, think the heart was doing a few hundred beats a minute to say the least, then the toy came out to play and i was just trying to think of "getting to europe one day, and well be worth it for the money" and looking at the posters on the walls, trying to ignore what happened, had one punk ass kid say ain't you going to lick or poke her, as she was in my face, said shows at the other end
think what got to me most was some of there girlfriends were there, and i don't want to think what age they were. One was just like starring hard out, and guess since the dad came and paid for the show, it proves may be that some kids on the gold coast are more like an expensive accesory, parents weren't at the show, just appeared at the start to pay
not sure if i well do a girl girl show again, and think 18th birthday partys are off the list, especially if full on shows
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wait, he SHAT himself?!!?!? groooooooooss.
sounds like you're not too comfortable with girl-girl shows. I didn't feel good after my first one either, but I kept doing them, and eventually got used to it, but was never okay with it. I don't do them any more. I guess, just don't do something you don't want to do.
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not like shat shat, like panic'd big time, have been asked to do more shows with her and am considering it, its the money i guess
how long did it take you to get use to it?
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Good info...
I wonder what the story is with Florida. I have some GF's who do the escort gig (older broads who can't dance anymore).
I wonder if they know about this.
Any idea where to find info for florida laws?
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Originally Posted by
Melonie
Based on most recent US court precedents, a porn actress engaging in sexual behavior / sex acts ON CAMERA is protected under the first amendment as well as a technicality that the porn actress is being paid to perform in accordance with a script (even though the script may call for sex acts LOL) ... and as such the sexual behavior / sex acts performed by a porn actress during a 'legitimate' video production is not considered to be prostitution. The 'legitimate' production provision stems from a previous loophole which had allowed a porn actress prostitute and her customer to escape prostitution charges as long as a video camera recorded them having sex !
On the other hand, in general a girl-girl show on a club stage or in a private party venue CAN legally be considered as prostitution in some states since A. there is no 'legitimate' production taking place that would invole first amendment protections, B. the girls are engaging in actual sex acts or sexual behavior (i.e. simulated sex acts), and C. the girls are being tipped / paid as a direct and immediate result of engaging in actual or simulated sex acts (as compared to a porn actress being paid well after the fact).
However, this is dependent on specifics of local prostitution laws - which vary in regard to whether or not their definition of prostitution includes a requirement that the persons paying for the actual sex acts or sexual behavior are active participants in those actual sex acts or sexual behavior. For example, Texas does not make such a distinction ( thus a girl-girl show is chargeable under state prostitution laws ) whereas New York does make such a distinction ( thus a girl-girl show is not chargeable under state prostitution laws ... but could be charged under lewd conduct statutes ).
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traceyb
not like shat shat, like panic'd big time, have been asked to do more shows with her and am considering it, its the money i guess
how long did it take you to get use to it?
Yeah, it's hard to say no to the money, and it is so nice to get a break from hustling in the clubs. I wouldn't say I ever really got used to it to the point where it was comfortable, or that I enjoyed it, but I stopped dreading it pretty quickly--probably after a couple months. The worse the money got in the clubs, the less the girl-girl shows bothered me.
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That seems reasonable enough, especially if you can get into a situation where you're doing your girlie show with someone you know and can rely on to be clean and "consistent."
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Did she atleast ask you if you were comfortable with what she planned to do to you beforehand? She should have.
If you want to continue this, make sure you find a partner your comfortable and work well with.
If you have a good friendship or partnership with a girl....it will be atleast more enjoyable than being scared and staring at a poster.
Dont be scared to set your limitations to protect yourself.
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Originally Posted by
Laurisa
Is it illegal to perform oral sex on a woman you work with if you are being paid at the party to "perform"? Isn't that prostitution in a way?
Depends on the location. In Oregon girls can do this on stage and it is totally legal, in Texas-- well, not so much.
For the girl-on-girl shows, make the guys tip big for toys. Some girls do wear strap-ons others just play with the toys. Be sure to have good communication with your partner, so that she knows when to back off if the show becomes uncomfortable in any way.
Most of the dancers I book for those kinds of shows charge an extra $100 for the toy show, otherwise it's just fondling and fake oral.
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Hi Tracey
I run an agency in SEQLD and I am a little dazzled at what you are saying
The agency you are working for - did they not provide any training?
I am in shock in what I read and hear on a daily basis about what strippers do to their guests of honor, so much so when most customers call they make specific requests that the buck is not humiliated in front of the crowd
Humiliation is one thing, cuffing him to the leg of a pool table while he is literally shitting bricks is another
Please don't take offense but being a show girl for pp is about doing quality shows, not beating the shit out of the buck until he is scared of strippers
Maybe approach your agency and ask them for some formal training?
Sorry to sound so harsh but I have known customers to attempt to sue strippers because they have chipped the bucks teeth, knocked teeth out, broken noses
Every day we get calls and bookings all over Australia and the first thing they say usually is the stripper wont hurt the buck will she?
Any agency worth their salt should offer the dancers training (I offer free dancer training to my exclusive Melbourne girls 7 days a week and help them put music cd's together, organize a routine, props, themes etc and the first thing I drill in their heads is you are not here to hurt the buck you are there to show him a good time)
Shame some agencies really don't put the effort into the up and cummers these days, they just leach off what other agencies teach the girls until the girlsthink they have out grown the agency and look for work else where
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traceyb
think what got to me most was some of there girlfriends were there, and i don't want to think what age they were. One was just like starring hard out, and guess since the dad came and paid for the show, it proves may be that some kids on the gold coast are more like an expensive accesory, parents weren't at the show, just appeared at the start to pay
not sure if i well do a girl girl show again, and think 18th birthday partys are off the list, especially if full on shows
WHAT THE FUCK?!!?!?!
You do NOT do Lesbian XXX shows in a mixed crowd especially for an 18th Birthday party!
Name and shame the agency. Seriously.
None of the reputable agencies on the Gold Coast would have sent you out to a mixed birthday party knowingly.
and you learnt the no 1 reason why a lot of the top showgirls on the gold coast will NOT do 18th birthday parties. they're little wankers more often than not.
Whilst I have done XXX shows for a mixed party BY MYSELF ... that is by myself and I made sure up-front that all the girls at the party were very aware of what was about to happen.
Also, in all of this, you didn't mention security? Who was your driver/security ?
All showgirls on the Gold Coast must have security. It's a BS excuse that you can't afford to do it !! You seriously can't afford to NOT have security. As a showgirl compared to being a waitress you run a higher risk of something happening to you believe it or not.
Take it from someone with plenty of experience.
Also, have you thought about doing topless - nude waitressing instead?
It seems you have jumped in the deep end. I would highly recommend you start as a waitress first then work on being a showgirl. Plus some of my most lucrative parties I did as a waitress (because I was able to sell them a XXX show at the end) thus making more than if I had done a couple of shows.
In the end, if you are not comfortable with something do not do it.
Also, all the high in demand lesbian shows are where they both interact with each other: strap ons, double enders, etc. Your lame ass lesbian show was just that.. lame. You didn't even have costumes: a bikini is not a costume.
Only do Lesbian shows if you are prepared to use dildos on each other and yourselves, strap ons and double enders plus being more "intimate" with each other. When guys pay for a XXX Lesbian show in SEQ they expect to see real action.
Do not do it if you are not comfortable or ready. It is NOT worth the money.
Do waitressing instead or be one of the very few showgirls who will happily waitress.
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agreed. 18th b-day parties are WAY outside of my comfort zone, especially if mixed gender. these kids just don't know what reality is yet, and don't know where fantasy is supposed to stop.
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"Also, all the high in demand lesbian shows are where they both interact with each other: strap ons, double enders, etc. Your lame ass lesbian show was just that.. lame. You didn't even have costumes: a bikini is not a costume.
Only do Lesbian shows if you are prepared to use dildos on each other and yourselves, strap ons and double enders plus being more "intimate" with each other. When guys pay for a XXX Lesbian show in SEQ they expect to see real action. "
Is it just me but the above mentioned 'acts' have nothing to do with 'lap dancing' whatsoever. Getting paid to perform sexual acts on some else in front of a crowd, isn;t that prostitution?! Getting a lovely flashback to that scene in "Requiem for a dream"...yuk, anyhow personal perceptions aside don't you need some sort of a prostitute license to show that you have regular std checks etc...your agency should surely provide that as I'm assuming if there is oral sex no dental dams are used...?