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In my opinion, I don't think some of the more provocative tricks (like the one's you mentioned) are bad, they just need to be used with class.
The point of being on stage is to advertise your abilities and tease customers so they want dances from you. Use moves sparingly.
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^^I had a feeling they were so that's why I started the thread. I want to have good stage etiquette or at least know what it is, lol!
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Taylor, I work at a nude club as well. Does management set forth rules of what is not allowed on stage while nude? For instance, at my club we are not allowed to do a full spread on stage while nude, if we do we are required to cover our lady parts with our hand.
What I like to do is give a very sexy dance on stage, all the while showing as little as possible of what's between my legs once I am nude on stage. A dollar isn't worth it and if they want the full show they can take me to a private room for a few songs. Some of the things I do when the guys tip me on stage are to lean forward and lightly breathe on their ear or run my leg from my knee to ankle lightly across their cheek. Think about things you can do that give away less of yourself on stage for that money. Also, are you nude for your entire stage set? We do 2 songs, first is topless, second is nude. I often like to wait to the very end to slip my panties off and sometimes, depending on if the guys are tipping or not, may not even give them a frontal view. In this industry, less is more...the less you give, the more you get.
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Bigblueyes: If their are rules on stage, i don't know about them. We dance for one song on four stages usually. I have been nude mostly, big mistake! I have talked to customers that complain about dancers not getting nude, another mistake. Oh, it's optional nude but required topless. I started doing the sexual stuff because I was told to do what the other dancers do. I'm turning into a wicked witch so I started to feel like it was too much for a couple of bucks! I will take your advice and give less from now on! Thanks!
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I worked in two full nude clubs. First one we did get nude on stage. Second we didn't only in dances. At the first one I learned fast that you do not show your kitty unless you are giving a dance. Never on stage. Because some guys may tip even 100 most will only tip 1. Be classy, sexy, and creative. If other girls show, let them, its no mystery on stage for them but for you it is and give syou a hands up.
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I just returned to working at a nude club myself and have caught myself doing some of the things that the othe girls do in order to get a tip. Then I really had to think that I was showing them for a dollar what they should be paying thirty a song to see.
At our club we do four songs and we are supposed to be naked by the second songs so there are two songs where we are supposed to be in full glory. I rarely follow this guideline and I try to only be naked for one song if I can get away with it.
Hmm...I never really thought of the entire mystery scenario...I wonder what her ***** looks like. Okay starting tommorow, Im going to bring more mystery and less of power point presentation.
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I just smile at them and maybe say thank you... the moneys already on your stage, why do you need to do a trick then? It seems reasonable you are being tipped for something you already did.
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i dont offer any tit or whatever contact, floor work if forbidden at my club. I will either do the ass clap move for them (i work at a topless, not a nude club, dont think id do this at a nude club) or i have this kick ass move where i lift a leg and slide down the pole (back to pole) while looking them in the eyes (no contact here, just a sexy slide down pole with eye contact), or if its a customer who i like or who looks like they have potential i will back bend so my head is on their shoulder when they are by the rail (this obviously depends on your back flexibility as well as the height of the stage. it works fine at my club). I also will put my hands on their shoulders while standing and come down slowly with sexy contact until i am eye level with them then i will suddenly smile and wink and be like "hey how are you tonight?" they seem to like that one too. I dont simulate sexual positions on stage though... thats a big no no for me.
One rule i always hold myself to: Dont EVER work for a dollar ;).
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Taylor, I would ask a manager what exactly the rules on the stage are for your own benefit and knowledge. Also, if getiing nude is optional on stage I would opt to just stay topless. If the guys ask you "when are you going to take your panties off?" you can tell them something like "well, I only do that if I have $20 or more in tips at the end of my song..." or "if you'd like to see my kitty, I'd be more than happy to give you a full show in one of our private rooms..." If other girls are showing their stuff and giving it up for free, don't worry - there's always someone who'll pay for it and there's also a great chance that if you begin setting a higher standard for yourself on stage, some of the other dancers may begin to follow your lead. Old habits die hard, but I'm sure that you are not the only woman at your club that feels the way you do about this...
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i dont offer any tit or whatever contact, floor work if forbidden at my club. I will either do the ass clap move for them (i work at a topless, not a nude club, dont think id do this at a nude club) or i have this kick ass move where i lift a leg and slide down the pole (back to pole) while looking them in the eyes (no contact here, just a sexy slide down pole with eye contact), or if its a customer who i like or who looks like they have potential i will back bend so my head is on their shoulder when they are by the rail (this obviously depends on your back flexibility as well as the height of the stage. it works fine at my club). I also will put my hands on their shoulders while standing and come down slowly with sexy contact until i am eye level with them then i will suddenly smile and wink and be like "hey how are you tonight?" they seem to like that one too. I dont simulate sexual positions on stage though... thats a big no no for me.
One rule i always hold myself to: Dont EVER work for a dollar ;).
Athena, this is such good advice. This is exactly the kind of stuff I do on stage and it makes sooooo much more money for you once you get off of stage because it adds that personal touch that blatant, raunchy sexuality lacks.
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so, right after i got hired , me n my gf ran to all the other clubs on the strip to check them out and we went to the condor... which was ok.. but one girl in particular hella ruined it for me as far as killing the vibe in there that barely existed in the first place. she was dancing and dancing and dancing, pole tricks and all.. ass clappin n all... was really WORKIN for a dollar..got about halfway into the second song and literally just STOPPED. and stood at the edge of the stage and just stared at all of us at each table waving her hands in a 'come here, TIP my ass' kind way.. and wouldnt keep going until someone finally got up and tipped her a $5 and she rolled her eyes and put her top back on, not doing much for the rest of the song. like, 5 ppl got up n left. mind u, there was only 8 of us there. totally killed the atomosphere and made her look unapproachable off the stage. no one would wanna buy a dance from someone whos unappreciative....
my gf and i reallllly liked the girl that was right before her, so we tipped her all the cash we had left on us... otherwise i woulda gave her ass a dollar. ;/
i dont feel like u have to do A WHOLE LOT ON STAGE TO GET TIPS.. i think its sexier to give good guest interaction and smile and shit..that goes a longer way than ass clappin and lookin mad the whole time, EXPECTING to get more than a $5 when all ur doing is climbing the pole and ignoring us.
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The answer to your question is... how much do you think you are worth? For me personally, I don't show too much unless I'm being tipped ie. don't spread legs. I expect at least $50 on a stage to show a decent amount of private bits. I still get nude and still flirt with my eyes, do pole tricks and approach customers, but I'm not giving you a look at my poonani unless your paying peoples! I absolutely hate it when someone shows me a dollar and says "what are you going to do for it?"... I say, "I'm completely naked in front of you. Are you so cheap that that's not worth a dollar to you?" and snatch it from them and walk off pissed off. Then I'll spread them for someone whose not even tipping. LOL It's my pet peeve.
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I think doing any sort of move or flip for a customer is way too much for a buck. I work nude and it is required that we get nude onstage, but its not strictly enforced. There are plenty of girls who only get topless onstage. At my club you have to do something onstage to get tips from guys at the tiprail, so I just give a really quick boobs in your face move for tippers and look them in the eye and thank them. I repeat if they tip me again, I just hold my boobs in their face a bit longer each time. For tips of $5 or more I will lean back a bit and give a quick flash of my kitty. I don't recommend giving anyone overt leg spreads or any sort of "gyno" show, regardless of tip. Throwing your legs over a custy's shoulder just seems like too much, as well as any sort of 'flip' to expose yourself more. Most pole tricks should also be avoided while nude. I don't like being just topless, so I usually get nude. I don't see any harm in just dancing nude, or giving quick little glimpses of kitty while onstage. Don't give it all away, but there is no harm in being nude.
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I work at a topless club and I won't do any special tricks for every dollar, but I ALWAYS say "thank you" and smile. BUT if they're giving me more than $1 at a time, especially if it's a $5 or more, I might do something special. I only tease on stage and tell them if that's not enough, they need to get a dance. :)
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If someone puts a dollar on my stage--I don't feel obligated to do JACK FUCKING SHIT. The money's already on the stage--so why do you feel you need to "work for it"? You've already got it!!!!
If I feel in the mood, I may lean forward, brush my hair agains the guy's face, bend over and whisper in his ear a "thank you", make eye contact, run a finger from his ear down to his jaw and then kiss him on the cheek....and SOMETIMES when it's busy or if I think it will help sell DANCES, I will put my boobs in a guys face. Will I ever spread eagle, put my legs around a customer and draw them into my pussy???? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL. I'm sorry, but ew. Just ew. Plus, I don't have the flexiblity to do that--my back is so fucked right now, trying to do that move would really not even be physically possible for me. Plus, I would just be too scared a guy would lean in and lick it or bite it or something, lol. I don't trust men--NOT ONE BIT, and especially not near my vagina, lol.
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I work at a nude club that has turned 'dirty' in the past year. I find that I make much more money by being different, and not doing any of the high-contact moves the other girls do. So I'd encourage you to do what everyone else has said: less is more. Focus on your eye contact and individualizing each customer. As long as the customers are aware that you will show more in the back rooms than you do on stage, I don't think it'll hurt your money.
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When nude, keep your legs closed, don't bend over too far, and no floor work when nude.. Give a sexy/coy dance and tease. Touch your hips, breasts, ass.. Its all about the tease! (or, that's what its SUPPOSED to be!)
It is hard to compete when others are doing so much more. but adding to it doesn't help anything.. Maybe girls will take notice of you doing less and do less as well. (Ahh in a perfect world..)
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TaylorMadison,
Honestly evaluate whether this is a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd tier club. What is the demographic of the customers? Do you tend to make more money onstage because customers will make it rain (while they strictly "don't get dances") Or is it a bit more upscale and you use your stage show for advertising? Do customers with money tend to frequent this club, or do they turn around and leave for someplace else when they realize they're in the wrong place?
There was a lot of good advice given in this thread, but the effectiveness is going to depend on the type of club you work at.
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I work at a third tier club. It works best if I bend over, look back at the custie in the eye and shake my ass a little. No exposed kitty offstage unless you've bought a second lapdance. You can be topless during a tip walk at my club, but I don't always do that, particularly if the crowd is cheap.
*DG*
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britneyireland
TaylorMadison,
Honestly evaluate whether this is a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd tier club. What is the demographic of the customers? Do you tend to make more money onstage because customers will make it rain (while they strictly "don't get dances") Or is it a bit more upscale and you use your stage show for advertising? Do customers with money tend to frequent this club, or do they turn around and leave for someplace else when they realize they're in the wrong place?
There was a lot of good advice given in this thread, but the effectiveness is going to depend on the type of club you work at.
It is a 2nd tier club.
No, I don't tend to make more $ on stage.
I think that some customers with $ frequent the club but more limited buyers than anything.
I would like to add that a good portion of custys walk up to the stage with the $1 in their hand not putting it on the stage waiting for a trick.
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It is a 2nd tier club.
No, I don't tend to make more $ on stage.
I think that some customers with $ frequent the club but more limited buyers than anything.
I would like to add that a good portion of custys walk up to the stage with the $1 in their hand not putting it on the stage waiting for a trick.
My club is the same situation. Sometimes people will put money on the stage, but usually they hold it in their hand and wait. Every girl does a "trick" or special move for the custys. Literally. Some do it clean with no contact, some do really raunchy moves with lots of contact, but they always do something. This is in the most upscale club in the state, and it's nude.
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britneyireland
TaylorMadison,
Honestly evaluate whether this is a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd tier club. What is the demographic of the customers? Do you tend to make more money onstage because customers will make it rain (while they strictly "don't get dances") Or is it a bit more upscale and you use your stage show for advertising? Do customers with money tend to frequent this club, or do they turn around and leave for someplace else when they realize they're in the wrong place?
There was a lot of good advice given in this thread, but the effectiveness is going to depend on the type of club you work at.
I agree I dont think just teasing will work in every club or giving it away you have to be able to know what kind of club you are in and customers you have. The highest paid girl in the club I went to was the one who showed everything and did the most outrageous floorwork because it was a more blue collar club.