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Another camming thread- need help making a choice.
So as I've been writing about my experiences with webcamming, and how I've been using girltime for this past week. I love the way girltime works, and I love the commissions but I'm having a big problem and that is investment and committment time.
First of all, let me say I got into this because I was LOOKING for a way to set my own schedule, have flexible hours, and make decent money whenever I could. But I didn't realize that at girltime, while technically you can set your own schedule, you are basically expected to work 6-7 days a week, 8 hours a night. They say this is the only way to make any money. Because the site is so low traffic compared to other sites you pretty much have to get regulars and then be there ALL the time in case they show up.
This does not work for me. First of all I'm a writer and an artist trying to make a career for myself in those areas, and working 7 days a week full time I basically will have zero time to work on my REAL work. Another big problem is that I travel a lot. I have a long distance boyfriend and I enjoy being out and doing things.. I have a life I have to live, I need a part time job, not a full time.
So, my question for you guys is.. do you think camming is the wrong job for me or is it just girltime? I know a lot of you guys have said girltime is ridiculously slow and impossible to sell private shows, and while I have had a few lucky nights there, its just impossible for me to be waiting there 24/7 and never living my life just in case some of those guys come back for more. This doesn't seem to be like stripping where there are random new guys who will come in and buy dances aside from your regulars, all the privates Ive sold have been guys who spent like 3 days talking to me before. So here is my question:
ARE there cam sites out there where i can log on for an hour when I have free time and make money? Like, continuously sell private shows? At girltime they say you have to be online 8 hours because the guys need "time to get to know you" before they are willing to invest money in a private show... and while I get that... I mean wtf... I sorta wish I could just log on and show my pussy for an hour for money when I have the time (lol) you know? vs investing millions of years of my life to build these "deep relationships" with clients.
I'd really appreciate knowing what you guys thought. I realize its not easy money and it takes work, I just need that work time to be FLEXIBLE and on my own time, while still making money. To me there is no point in working hard if you don't have the time and freedom to do the things you want to do (like go see my boyfriend!)
So should I try another site or maybe give up camming all together?
P.S. I'd go back to stripping at a club again but there is only one club in my area and I don't know if it does a lot of business, seems it might be another heartache waiting to happen.
I'd really appreciate any advice, thanks ladies!
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Re: Another camming thread- need help making a choice.
my favorite so far is streamate.
sometimes i work one hour a week. or don't even work if i'm busy. no set minimum hours you must work and busy traffic
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And you sell private shows every time???? Holy shit that's exactly what I need!
Girltime says you have to invest lots of time and build relationships and I mean, I get that is what their clients want... but I just want to fucking log on and make money whenever I have the time, honestly! Can I ask about how much you make an hour there?
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Just to answer you question...Personally i think girltime is NOTHING compared to the other sites like Streamate, cams.com, webcams.com..i won't say imlive because their traffic has declined over the years. You're putting your self at a disadvantage staying "exclusive" to girltime. I really don't know why they have this as one of their "policies". Though i made my money webcamming. After working as a dancer ...and now an escort and make LOTS of money doing what i do now ...do i still think camming what is worth it? Heck yeah! Some people don't know how to work the cams but obviously you do if you made any money on girltime. Please do not listen to what girltime's owner says about other sites. They think girltime is the best but girltime is should be really called wasteoftime. Shit you have no problem sitting and chatting with guys in free chat. Try webcams.com for one day in free chat and tell me how that works for you. That site has always been a gold mine for me ..though their payouts is 40%. Other sites you should check out is cams.com ..you'll love all the cool features they have that allows you to make money. I can go on and on but i gotta go ..pm me if you have any questions...ooooh and join camwhores.com ..they pay you $50 for 10minutes every show you do once you become a a full fledge camwhores...I'M A FULL FLEDGE camwhore!! LOL! (Look me up under Malaya Taylor of course) I think you'd love that site. Pm me if you need help hun
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Webcams.com looks interesting but I see in their form they also want you to schedule days. This is my biggest problem. Even working a set schedule at girltime I still feel I'm not making enough and they keep saying "it takes time, it takes time". Blah. I don't fucking HAVE time, I have BILLS. I sat there for 7 hours last night and made 30 bucks. I should be making WAY more than that for stripping and showing myself to dudes.
I tried joining cams.com but they rejected all my paperwork saying it was unreadable and then ignored my further requests.
I'll check out camwhores too. What do you have to do to become a full camwhore? lol I'm gonna go look for you on there.
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OKAY, after reading through the "how much do you make per day camming" thread again I have to say I feel sick. I can't believe some of you guys have been making a few hundred dollars or more a day and I made 30 fucking dollars last night on girltime in a 7 hour shift. This is absolute bullshit and I can't believe I put up with it just because I was niave and made 70 bucks my first night. WTF! I AM WORTH WAY WAY WAY MORE THAN THAT! *enraged*
Even the main girl who is the most popular on there only makes like 800 a week! WTF! Do they realize they could be making so much more! I'm so tired of sitting there all night talking to guys for free. FUCK that.
Thanks for helping me wake up. I'm majorly annoyed right now. I know I am capable of hustling and doing well on cam and that I look great, its just.. not enough traffic, not enough commissions unless you are working 50 hours a week (and I'm willing to work full time but I better be making a grand + a week at LEAST)
It's looking like a choice between streammate.com and webcams.com right now. I'm leaning towards streammate. Any positives and negatives for either?
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Re: Another camming thread- need help making a choice.
edit- okay it seems to be working now. I shall stop bitching/freakout mode.
I'm gonna go ahead and work another night on girltime and see how it goes. Might as well, even though I don't want to, as I still have to do the stupid print and sign paperwork thing for streammate now. Will post back with results.
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I gave up on webcams.com. I sat there forever in free chat and never made anything. You don't really have to have a schedule though. I just wrote in "catch me when you can". And they accepted it. Cams. com is still rejecting me too. I even called and talked to a lady who was a total bitch. Don't even get me started down that road. They really just don't seem to want anyone to work there. Honestly, girltime sounds like more trouble than it's worth. There are so many other sites that let you come and go as you please. I think you should try streamate. I haven't tried myself, but it seems the lesser of the evils. Personally, I am gonna try some phone sex lines on top of livejasmin. I have another job, and sitting there pinned to a cam for hours chatting for free doesn't not work for me. And I really can't set a schedule either. I was gonna try talksugar and niteflirt, but I really don't have time for all the self promotion. I think you just have to keep moving around til you find what works for you. I have tried several sites and feel really blah about it all, especially when I see how much everyone claims to be making. I think I just haven't found my place yet.
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At least I know it's not just me that seems to be failing miserably at this lol... we totally have the capabilities, I agree, we just haven't found that one right place yet! I KNOW it's possible! I know I can do it too. I have the look I have the hustle.. I just need the right place that will work for me.
To everyone who works on sites like cams.com, webcams.com and streammate- do you do audio? I noticed on streammate it says they have audio and I don't have any desire to do audio, it creeps me out for some reason for the guys to hear me talking (same reason I havent tried phone sex) and also I have to be quiet in here while doing this because I have roommates and thin walls. Can I just not have audio? I didn't notice while signing up for streammate it saying you had to have a microphone... maybe I didnt read close enough.
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I do audio. But I only do it on livejasmin in a private show. But then again, I only do private shows and don't do free chat on livejasmin. I didn't have audio when I was on webcams.com, and nobody seemed to care. But nobody bought a show either. But I think it was Malaya who said most of the money comes from tips there, anyway. I suppose I didn't really push the tipping hard enough. Maybe if some guy bugs you about audio, tell him your husband is in the other room, and you have to be sneaky and make a big deal about how you love to get off behind his back. I don't know, just a thought...
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Re: Another camming thread- need help making a choice.
i barely do audio on streamate. if the guy is going exclusive (double my normal rate) and he asks for it, i will if i want to. or if i know the guy just wants to talk ill do it. but i live with my mom so no loud moaning from me lol. dont think its required to sign up.
just give it a shot. try multiple sites and see what you like. 30 dollars for 7 hours is not worth it imo. shoot me a pm if u have anymore questions.
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Thanks guys, the audio and the not doing penetration was my biggest concern (MUCH more concerned about anal, vaginal penetration I'm open to). What you told me in the PM set my mind at ease, as long as I can make more than 30 bucks in 7 hours and work when I feel like it I'll be happy! :)
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You can always fake the penetration
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Yes! I am totally going to do that! Ha ha ha! Suckers!
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Originally Posted by
lilmisssunshine
You can always fake the penetration
LOL! this is true. all about camera angles ;) smart girl!
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Originally Posted by MsClaireVo
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Yes! I am totally going to do that! Ha ha ha! Suckers!
LOL!!!
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I'm in tears right now. I am about to give up on this all together.
I don't know if I have ever been this frustrated in my entire life, to the point where it's giving me panic attacks, I'm trying to calm down but I have bills to pay and don't understand why these sites make it SO impossible to work for them.
Twice yesterday streammate rejected my paperwork. They sent an email saying "the following errors.. blah blah blah" with my paperwork: (and then there was a big blank area where the errors were supposed to be listed). I wrote them and asked what the errors were and all they would tell me was my paperwork was "incomplete". WTF! I followed the directions exactly and I wrote back again asking HOW the paperwork was incomplete and all they did was send the exact same email again, claiming my paperwork was incomplete and to resubmit. WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I even went to their customer service live chat and they told me they "don't deal with questions about models and to email customer service". Well I've done that twice now and recieved no answers! :( !!!!
Please, you guys that have joined streammate and gotten through the paperwork phase of it, tell me what I am doing wrong! I have a clear scan of my passport and you can clearly see it's the same passport I'm holding in the headshot. I don't understand! This is happening to me at every single one of these sites! Girltime is the only one I didn't have these sorts of problems with! What am I doing wrong?
It's just sickening because I need to be making money and they REFUSE to help! You girls are my only hope... please help.
edit- do you have to upload all your docs at once? it just occured to me maybe this is the problem. maybe they are coming to review my account and only seeing the headshot and not the signed paperwork and labeling it incomplete. Cams.com let you save one thing at a time on there but maybe this is different. God why cant they just explain to me how it works?
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Re: Another camming thread- need help making a choice.
hmm... i dont remember any problems with streamate during sign up..
that may be it though, try uploading all your documents together. headshot, id, signed contracts etc..all in one package. maybe it is cuz you're sending one at a time, going back fixing one thing then sending it separate.. i hope this all works out for you
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I will try again tonight, thanks! I don't want to give up on this that easily. I know I have the capability to do this and make good money, I just have to find my "place" that works for me. :)
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Re: Another camming thread- need help making a choice.
Hey again girls. Well I ALMOST got myself signed up for streammate but low and behold more problems.. I only have myself to blame for this one though, I freaking forgot to DATE my signature on my form. So once again, back to staples to have it scanned in again. I think the people at staples think I'm crazy lol. I've been in there like ten times this week with all this paperwork for adult sites. All this would be much easier if I had a printer/scanner. It's on my list as soon as I make some damn scrill!
Oh, and I decided to sign up for Niteflirt too. As purely PSO, not cam. I want a way to make some cash on nights I don't feel like getting hair and makeup and outfits on, and even though I HATE talking on the phone, I feel more comfortable with the dude hearing my voice if he doesn't have to see me live on cam. Niteflirt seems promising, at least as a side thing for a little extra cash.
Will continue to update this thread, it's becoming like my blog of trying to break into the web sex biz. :p
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Re: Another camming thread- need help making a choice.
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Originally Posted by
MsClaireVoyant
I sat there for 7 hours last night and made 30 bucks. I should be making WAY more than that for stripping and showing myself to dudes.
Heh, sounds like my club right now.
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Ugh. Just not worth it. I can almost handle sleaziness and disrespect BETTER than I can handle boredom. Give me a weird customer, give me an asshole customer, give me SOMETHING, I just want to be doing something for the time I'm at work. But sitting there an entire night and not making any money? Not so much. I realize there will probably be a night like that here and there with almost any job but girltime is just too damn slow for me.
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Re: Another camming thread- need help making a choice.
well, you're certainly persistent. Hope it pays off for you and things start to turn around for you :hug:
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Thank you! haha... yes I am damn persistent. Anything to prevent me from having to get some boring 9-5 job!
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Hey girls! Got accepted to streammate and niteflirt today! <3 Am out of town but will get started as soon as I return and let you all know how it goes. Thanks for all the support.
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Re: Another camming thread- need help making a choice.
Just beware that Niteflirt is having glitches/problems ... and that without the pay to feature option... you as a new girl will be hard to feature on the first page or even second page thus you might find it slooooooooow.
If you're USA and want to phone sex there is Talk Sugar and Phone Encounters too.
Also, make a whole heap of recorded listings so you can direct people to them if they want audio.