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How do I get them past the 'Extras' question???
For awhile now, all I've had to do is constantly compete with the hookers @ the club that all do extras. I am very good looking, and I always have the best outfits, hair, make up, lashes, etc etc out of the club I work in. But all that doesn't seem to matter when your not willing to give out BJ's or Sex.
So, My question for you ladies.... When you ask a guy if he want's a dance, and he reply's with "What are your specials? What do you do?" ... How do I get him past that question!? and be willing to go back there with me anyways??? As long as I can throw him off & get him in the back for 1-2 dances, I'll be happy.
Any girls, that deal with this same problem, on a regular night basis, help me out! & it's not just one club. it's all club's where I work at.
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IMO, you will never almost never get him "past that question". When a guy is there blatantly seeking extras, that is what he's there for. He's not going to be happy with dances. Period. You -might- be able to charm him into a dance or two, but I promise you he will be handsy/pushy and hell to deal with.
I have had very very few exceptions with customers I know full well get extras at other clubs, but will tip me for my time. They have told me it's because they think I'm funny and appreciate my blunt honesty. I generally try to make a joke about it/use reverse psychology while not sounding "accusatory" of what they're doing/looking for. Like I'll say "Oh shit. I can tell you're going to hate me. I'm like a librarian... and not like one of those dick-sucking-porno librarians either. I mean like, book-reading, nerd, prude, WTF am I doing in a strip club librarian." All while laughing/shaking my head. I actually sold a VIP room this way to a guy who wanted a BJ and instead settled for "hanging out" with me. He also tipped me 300. ... but trust me that case isn't typical.
I know that sounds ridiculous and maybe I'm not explaining it right, but that's the only way I've gotten tips from those types... and it's still not usually "dances" or "vip". Which is fine because I don't want to dance for them anyway.
I look at it this way.. they are seeking to purchase something I am not offering. So, instead of offering them a "lesser" version of what they want or promising something I can't give.. I offer them something completely different.. like humor. I've also been known to do magic tricks, tell jokes, etc. I'm a cheeseball... really.
All the above being said, I will repeat my first statement. Most of the time, you're not going to get ANYTHING out of these guys. Chat with them for a couple minutes to see if you work some tips out of them, but then move on and move on fast if it doesn't work.
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^agreed. I've never gotten much out of a guy who just wanted extras, maybe a couple dances and the custy was such a nightmare it wasn't really worth the money anyway.
I find it so rude for guys to ask for extras on the floor and just damn stupid. They are usually the cheap ones too.
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I agree with Pretty_Penny as well on this one...They are out for one thing only..
I like your take on the whole thing girl! Humor might be a good change for me, instead of getting all pissed off at their pervy asses... I will have to try a new tactic, b/c lately it is worse and worse and then I just get angry.
They are ALWAYS the cheap ones! It is true, the more money they have to spend and are willing to spend, the less they expect.. The cheaper, the more bang they want for their buck- literally. NASTYYYY.
I get so annoyed with the "200!? For the VIP? And you don't give me sex?!" I always reply with a bitchy "You think I would have sex with YOU for 200? Guys pay me 400 just to talk! Fuck off." Even though that's not always the case, I want them to feel bad. Ughhh they get under my skin.
Go on the street corner and get yourself a 20 BJ. Or call an escort. WTF!
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Pretty_Penny
I offer them something completely different.. like humor. I've also been known to do magic tricks, tell jokes, etc. I'm a cheeseball... really.
hahah magic tricks?? that's awesome. i once got into a debate with this english professor about chaucer. i've had some interesting conversations.
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Maybe the answer is finding a cleaner club.
I was asking a similar question because I live near Detroit and I've been told by anyone whose worked in Detroit clubs that there is an overflowing amount of extras girls. Everyone on SW has told me to make sure I have a good hustle and that will help me keep my head above water, but I'm sure it can be stressful to deal with grabby, inappropriate customers every minute you're there. Are there other clubs in your area that are clean (or cleaner)? Go visit some clubs as a customer or ask other girls at your club if they've danced at cleaner clubs in the area.
I've been told that clubs with new management or that are just opening are usually *somewhat* clean for at least 3-6 months after that "honeymoon" period. You could check into that for some temporary work that could turn into something long term if you liked the place and it stayed clean.
I had to search high and low, but I eventually found a club that is a juice bar in a college town I'm familiar with which is clean for the most part. I'm definitely going to audition there first because it sounds like it fits my needs. I haven't heard of any areas of the U.S. having as bad of a prostitution problem in the clubs as Detroit does, so maybe you'll be in luck and have an easy time finding a new place.
I hope that helps.
- Laurisa
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I work all around metro-detroit. There is no cleaner clubs anywhere. every club is gonna have their whores. some clubs worse than others. but it's still something i have to deal with every fricking night. When I first started dancing in 2003 I never ever ever had to deal with this. It would be shocking to see another dancer make out w/a custo back in the vip. Now it's not even a shock to find a condom on the floor. It's only been the past 2-3 years that things have really took a change, and now it's just gotten down right bad.
I'm sure you are referring to deja vu in ypsi? I always thought guys would try & touch more there since your all nude. I dont know. I think it's time for a move.
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Yep, I'm referring to Deja Vu in Ypsi. I talked to a girl on here that works there right now and she said that management is strict about extras and doesn't let HJs and BJs fly. The most they deal with is girls that make out with the guys and grope their dicks through their pants.
You could go audition there and try it out for a few nights.
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IMO, you will never almost never get him "past that question". When a guy is there blatantly seeking extras, that is what he's there for. He's not going to be happy with dances. Period.
Unfortunately, this seems to be the case in clubs everwhere. Once the availability of 'extras' becomes part of a club's business model, about the best that can be hoped for in regard to a 'clean' dancer is to pry money out of customers for a couple of weeks until word gets around that she doesn't 'deliver'.
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Laurisa
Yep, I'm referring to Deja Vu in Ypsi. I talked to a girl on here that works there right now and she said that management is strict about extras and doesn't let HJs and BJs fly. The most they deal with is girls that make out with the guys and grope their dicks through their pants.
You could go audition there and try it out for a few nights.
yeah ypsi is too far of a drive for me though. where do you work now?
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Ha ha funny story about that. earlier in the night i was talking to a customer about how much i hate being solicited and the next guy that asked me for a bj i was gonna be a complete smart ass asshole to him. so later on, I was standing near the bar area of my club pretty much next to my manager when a guy comes up to me and asks me vip and dance prices. I tell him and then he asks me, in front of my manager, in a 15 min vip ($85) can i get a blow job. i was gonna go off on him and then i giggled to my self and said "no i cant do that right now my herpes are acting up and i have to go get some cream for it" ( i actually dont have herepes i just wanted a more creative way to be an asshole) the custos reaction was actually super surpising. he was all like oh ok thats cool all non chalant and then i gave him the you shouldnt be getting sex n bjs from strippers cause u can get a disease lecture and he was really cool acting and like oh ok thanks. Then he asked me to do a dance instead. yeah he was kinda grabby during the dance but still i laughed fo like week straight after that.
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When they ask "What do you do?" I always tell them I make them the center of my world for so many minutes and will make them forget about every other woman on the planet, after all, they get a fun, sexy, naked blonde on their lap. Sometimes that'll get them, if not then I agree with the others that they are going to be such a headache that it generally isn't worth it.
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Working at the strip club is a game of matching up buyers and sellers. Some guys aren't interested in buying the services that you are selling.
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When guys ask me if I'll have sex in the champagne room, I say "No" or "Of course not" while winking at them. They pay upfront for the room. When we get in there most guys don't try to push the issue. If they do, I tell them, "Dude, I already told you no."
Once I started fake crying and told the guy "I'm so sorry! I didn't mean to mislead you. I know you spent a lot of money and I just wanted to make you happy!" He apologized, tipped me $100 and got a room with another girl, still hoping to get laid! LOL
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Haha, what a sucker. I'll have to try that one for sure.
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LOL! my best friend finally had it it with these guys last week and when a guy asked her she looked him flat in the face and said "you're not my customer. you're her customer" and pointed to the stage at the skankiest looking and acting girl she could find! took the power back and made him feel as though he couldn't have her. the decision was ultimately hers, not his. it made him want her more because she told him no. he apologized and vip'ed her for an hour. that probably wouldn't work for everyone but i sure did laugh when she told me!!!
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I like a lot of the answers here and I also agree that most custys who want extras are there for just that.
I'm really lucky. I found a club where extras are entirely unheard of, you can get fired for even letting a custy touch you too much. We still get the guys who want extras though and they can get really pushy. I usually handle it one of three ways.
1. "Sorry, we're not allowed." Pouting face. "They just fired a girl last week for just giving a handjob!" Consoling face. "I know, I know, they just take all the fun out of it for both of us."
2. "Well, why don't you come back with me and we'll see what we can do." *wink* I usually alert the bouncer on my way in with a small gesture to watch this guy too. When we're on the floor and he's bugging me for specifics I'll tell him in a fake horrified way, "you wouldn't expect me to tell you the happy ending of a story before I've even started telling it," or something weird. If they get upset in the back I get panicky and get ready to cry. I'll tell them, you think I'm just a cheap whore? Aren't I pretty? Well, you don't want to pay for a pretty girl, you're paying me like I'm a whore, which often leads to very large tips.
3. If I'm really annoyed with them (and especially when they are in a group) I'll tease them for what they want in a flirtatious way. "What? You only want a girl to bob her head up and down on you?" horrified face "oh, never mind, I get it" knowing face "you've never been able to handle a girl like me, someone who gives mind blowing fantasies." I'll cut them off again with whatever word their about to say and go, "no, it's ok, no need to protest. I know you like (finger quotation marks) your blowjobs better, you don't like a tease. It's funny because men here usually prefer to spend hundreds on me for my fantasy rather than mess around with a few dollars on a blow job. They can all tell you how incredible I am. I've stopped doing extras because they're not even worth my time." I then start to stand up and bend over them telling them sadly, "real men can handle a tease, looks like you fellas are the type that just need something short since you can't last that long." I turn my back and walk away. Half the time they are begging me to come back and let them prove me wrong, that they can handle a tease. The other times they are just as pervy as when I met them.
I love the third option because sometimes you just need to insult the really obnoxious ones. It makes me feel better to be a bit mean every now and then to those who deserve it. I've got the little routine down pat and it's a lot of fun to see their faces.
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^ Shit, I really need to not write so much, lol.
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I wouldn't stay in a club where there was rampant prostitution. :( Doesn't sound safe for you or anyone else. Bein a non-extras girl in an extras club gives you the handicap. Being the best hustler and best looking in a non-extras club gives you the upper-hand! :)
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When a guy asks me "what are your specials?" I just tell them everything I do is special and he should come find out why.
I don't think specials equals extras. Sounds to me like they want a break in price.
Men are pretty straight forward. You don't get a hand job asking for "specials".
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I work in a high milage bad reputation club. Guys ask " so what do you do in the champagne room?" Lately my reply in my best steriotypical blonde voice "well we could play checkers or monopoly? Wait, no. I forgot to bring the game board, let's go back anyway. I'm sue I can think of something else fun to do."
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Unfortunatly these days its not about being the prettiest girl its about whose the prettiest whore :( I have the same problem as you pinkDOLLY! Thankfully the hooking in my club isn't as blatently obvious as in my previous club but its supposed to be no touching but i seem to loose money all the time because girls allow it and it doesnt seem like the bouncers do anything about it unless the boobs are being touched. When I first started dancing 3 years ago, it was all about whose pretty and who performs on stage so I busted my ass learning every pole trick and stage manuver in the book, spent lots of money on hot outfits, but these days the guys don't seem to care :( pout