New Customer w/ CASH TO SPEND! HELP!
Hello all of you smart business women.
So I was working in a club where there is no lap dancing, only stage shows where customers tip you for posters and magnets. I met a very wealthy man who came back to see all of my scheduled shows and tipped me $100 each show. I knew that I had to sit with him between shows in order to keep him coming back, which none of the girls usually do. He asked me for dinner so I said yes, and we went to the restaurant next door because I didn't want to drive with him in a car. He ended up coming to the next club that I was at for every show as well. The next week I went to a different city and he said he wanted to come see me there. The next city that Im in now is only two hours away from where I met him, and we offer private dances - no contact. He came and again tipped me on my shows, and bought me out for 4 hrs @ $360/hr. for both friday and saturday night. He told me he has come into an inheritance of 7million, and that he wants to sponsor me to help me out with opening a business.
This is a dream come true, however, he is starting to become clingy. He always tries to touch me and hold my hand and he calls me every day about 3-5 times a day. Its beginning to worry me. He tells me he misses me on the phone and tells me he wants to come visit me when I go home. I told him I have a bf and this isnt a good idea, he still brings it up. He says he wants to meet my bf. The thing is, if I do business with him (as in him helping me start my business) he will have to meet my BF, as my bf will be in business with me.
He offered to give me 1 million dollars to start my night club and that i can pay him back when I have money. I suggested that he buy the building and I just run the business, but the only thing with that is I wouldnt own it, I would just be running it - but I wouldnt have any ties with him and if things got weird I could just get out.
He is in his 60's - not attractive and very needy. He has two adopted kids and is divorced. I dont know what to do. He is coming back to town this week to buy me out again for Friday and Saturday and I just dont know how to work him. I dont want to dance for him again, as if I do decide to do business with him then I think it would be weird later.
Any words of wisdom? Ive never had anyone spend this kind of cash on me and be this serious about giving me this money to start this business. I also dont want him to come in the way of my relationship with my man.
What do I do? Please help!!!!
xo
Delvina.
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I don't have much advice other than that I wouldn't do it. It sounds like he's basing this whole thing on hoping that he can have a relationship with you.
Maybe you could start another smaller type of business and ask him to just give you the cash at the club?
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I wouldn't go into to business with him either. I would get as much money as I can off him and try to keep him coming and giving you money. Try to talk to him sexy and not rude. Be sweet and Tell him, you really love his company and you would like to be friends with him. Tell him you have a boyfriend and that you want to see how it goes with him. Get to know this guy a little better so that you can know his weaknesses and what makes him interested. Once you do this, you can have him eating out of your hand. Keep him on edge and you can get a lot from him. I have a guy that I've been knowing for almost 4yrs now. He gives me 6k a month and takes me anywhere in the world. The killing part is that, we've never even had sex! And that's the God honest truth. I keep him on the edge and wanting me so much, that he'll call me up and ask me where I want to go and buy my tickets. Everytime we meet, he knows what's up and he automatically deposits money right into my account. I say you need to work this guy really well.
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Wow, anacol, you are my hero! I have so much to learn.
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Lola_sinn
Wow, anacol, you are my hero! I have so much to learn.
Some women think you have to give to get something. Which they are so wrong. If you know yourself well and know you are not the average, guys love that. They love when a women is different from the rest, not easy and knows how to get what she wants. I feel for some girls who sleep around and belittle themselves for money when you don't have to do that. If a woman can be a dancer and seduce guys for large amounts of money and not do any extras, that should tell you something right there! You have to go toe to toe with guys and let them know, you can't play a player for the guys who try to play women and kill their brain. lol.;)
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I would forget the idea of going into business with him, or with his help. There's just too many ways for it to go wrong, and it likely will. Just keep working him as a customer. No regular is forever, so work it as well as you can.
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hello-kitty
^^^^^ thats a dream come true! How do you do it girl?
Just be myself and I talk a lot of game. But I'm super sexy with it! lol.
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I definitely would not go into business with this guy. The situation is bound to blow up sooner or later--I mean, can you really see yourself owning a business with this guy and working together successfully for ten or twenty years without constant drama? Money isn't everything. And you would probably get a lot more satisfaction out of owning your own business if you didn't have to constantly worry about handling this guy.
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I would do what anacol says and extract the money from him via teasing and not a loan. Man. I wish I was there with you. I'd show you how to bleed this motherfucker dry.
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mediocrity
I would do what anacol says and extract the money from him via teasing and not a loan. Man. I wish I was there with you. I'd show you how to bleed this motherfucker dry.
You couldn't have said it better! lol. I already know I could have him eating out my palms!!!!
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I agree with anacol and mediocrity but I also had a customer similar to yours. I have a lot of regular customers and I tend to draw clear lines when they become better customers. Meaning; I don't promise things I can't deliver on and I tell them point blank that there will be no relationship or sex (well... maybe not point blank but I play on the friendship/companionship aspect). The reason I do this is because in 5 years dancing I have seen plenty of girls get in some very scary and dangerous situations (sadly, more than one fatal) by maliciously misleading men. The truth is; men like to be teased (if not, our beloved strip club business wouldn't exist) but men do not take kindly to being deceived. Men know what they are getting when they come to a club, whether you think so or not, they know. They try to push the boundaries and sadly a lot of girls have made it harder for good entertainers by letting them, but thats a whole 'nother issue and not really relevant to your question.
Speaking of, I'll get back to that. I had a very good customer start seeing me when I was new to the whole regulars scenario. He would come in several times a week fresh off a divorce and a deceased uncle's large inheritance. Girls would swarm him but when all was said and done he chose me. He would give me $1000 to hang with him during my shift and brought me presents often, diamond earrings, bracelet, tons of victoria's secret perfumes, designer purses, etc. Eventually he started taking me shopping and blowing thousands of dollars in that too. It made me nervous but he said it made him feel good someone appreciated it because his ex didn't. Soon we were talking and spending time together on regular basis and not long after that things got weird. When he would come into the club he became very aggressive when other men tried to get my attention, he started getting wasted and having melt downs, he started telling me he loved me, he would show up and sit in the corner sulking, he would try guilt tripping me about all the money he had spent on me. Then I found out that he had a very violent past (not really past since he was still getting into a lot of fights), some serious emotional issues, and to top it off he had blown through his inheritance and was practically broke. I had to cut off all contact (not just because he was broke hahaha) and when he came into the club I would ignore him completely which may have not been the best solution but I didn't know better at the time and he eventually got the point. Basically it could have ended very badly if I had lied about my intentions.
Since then I have had some wonderful customers (some for years) who like my company and know that it is a friendship and like the way I make them feel about themselves (that's hustling IMO). I haven't had a problem since then and I think its due to being very clear and drawing boundaries. I know a lot of girls who think men are evil and should be played and taken to the cleaners just for being men. Don't get me wrong, there are some men I would drain for every cent without a blink but there are also very sweet and wonderful men. I have a lot of customers who are newly divorced and are so defeated by it that they are really looking for a boost to their self esteem. If they show respect for you then respecting them enough to be honest really helps them feel important (not that you haven't done that, I know you were honest, just speaking in general). The most important thing in ANY customer relationship from a stage tipper all the way up to your biggest spending regular is YOU MAINTAIN ALL CONTROL. You set the boundaries and you enforce them.
If he is unwilling to help you without a relationship then he is probably bat shit bonkers anyway, especially if he hasn't even asked to read your business plan (I don't know if he has? Just my experience). Most sane men just need to be reminded of their role in strip club relationships, as they tend to get a little carried away and one pull on the reigns usually does it. I would say that if all that can be achieved and you feel comfortable enough to take the loan from him, I would have it completely legally secured so that should he change his mind, you are completely protected. Remember, maintaining control is the most important thing.
It would be an amazing opportunity! I really hope it works out, but if not, there will be plenty more authentic opportunities and your karma will be intact! Good luck!
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Holy crapola! That was a lot longer than I thought. Sorry to break such long wind :)
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Teasing is good, misleading is not. It's better to tell them up front what's the situation because you'll come out better that way. Most guys will still do whatever they were doing before because they actually want to. I don't beat around the bush for anything. ;D
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WOW thanks so much ladies.
SO news flash. Ive kept in contact with him. He came into the club I was working at in Alberta and my last week there cleaned out his account on me but was fine with it because he was coming into money soon anyways. Usually when a guy buys me out its $360 an hour, which half goes to the club so I charge $500 with the remaining going to me as a tip. he bought me out for 4 hours. He had no money to tip with so he gave me a cheque.. NOT certified, but I figured what the heck Ill take it anyway. I brought this cheque to the bank and it bounced. GO FIGURE! I was basing that cheque cashing on how serious he was and if he was just lying to me about being a millionaire.
I called him up and told him it didn't go through, he apologized and said he was getting his inheritance on wednesday and he will put money into my account if I give him the info. SO, I did! I gave him my bank info ( after calling my bank asking if it was safe) and guess what? HE DROPPED 10G'S IN MY ACCOUNT! NO STRINGS ATTACHED!!!!!
So Im going to send him something for xmas.
I totally see where you gals are coming from but for this business.... He wants to drop 2 million on a building and give me another million for renovations. I suggested that he purchase the building and I just run the business. This way Im not attached to him whatsoever. I can get out if need be. There will be lawyers involved.
I would much rather have him just give me 3million and I can start my own business and actually own the building, but I have no idea HOW to get that much money from him on my own... any suggestions?
Happy Holidays!
xoxo
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Just talk to him and be honest about you wanted your own business. Let him know it's always been a dream for you and then get into the details about the business you were wanting to start. Let him know how much you were thinking you may need. If I were you. I would say close to a million to start off with. and see what happens and what he says. But make sure you are serious with him and not joking. I would come in with plans! Keep bringing up the fact that you want your own business with your name on the deal and noone elses. He should get the drift when you're telling him, "your own business"! lol. But I would stay close to him and talk and see him. Treat him as a very very close friend. Make it seems like you're interested in every word he says. Pay attention and ask questions. He'll love that! The xmas gift is perfect. If you do it right. THis guy will get you your own business. Trust me, one of my friends has hers! So I know it'll work. :)