Re: when you are trying to touch a dancers vajayjay and she is trying to stop you...
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Earl_the_Pearl
This is why I don't do privates dances even in clubs where they are permitted by law.
Are you sure it's not just because you're a douche?
Re: when you are trying to touch a dancers vajayjay and she is trying to stop you...
Some of the problem might be that the percentage of girls who allow it (although still small) is increasing.
I was giving a dancer a lift home a week or so ago and she was venting on the subject. Some of the names she mentioned of girls doing it were frankly a surprise - until recently, they'd been clean dancers.
And there have always been 'private parties' in London - essentially semi-legal functions where dancers give higher contact lap dances in return for higher prices. Many of the girls who dance at the PP's also dance in the strip pubs (and clubs). I hear the line about what they allow in the pubs and clubs and what they allow in the PP's is becoming increasingly blurred.
While I don't condone trying to grab a dancer between the legs in the slightest - it shouldn't happen - I think we have to be honest and say that some of the problem is that a small percentage of dancers do allow guys to touch them. And that encourages them to try it with other dancers.
Phil.
Re: when you are trying to touch a dancers vajayjay and she is trying to stop you...
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Phil-W
I was giving a dancer a lift home a week or so ago and she was venting on the subject. Some of the names she mentioned of girls doing it were frankly a surprise - until recently, they'd been clean dancers.
How does she know? Dancers that do extras try to hide that from other dancers.
Re: when you are trying to touch a dancers vajayjay and she is trying to stop you...
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Phil-W
While I don't condone trying to grab a dancer between the legs in the slightest - it shouldn't happen - I think we have to be honest and say that some of the problem is that a small percentage of dancers do allow guys to touch them. And that encourages them to try it with other dancers.
Phil.
this is true for sure. yet another reason why clean dancers dont like extras girls...
either way just because girl X allows it to happen, when girl Y says fuck off, the customer should keep his hands to himself.
Man i swear these men are dumber than dogs. There is a 4 month old puppy around my house, and i only need to tap its nose and yell no dont chew on that max of 3 times before it gets the message. With some men it doesnt matter how many times i slap their hands away and tell them no, they still dont get the message. Evolution at its finest.
Re: when you are trying to touch a dancers vajayjay and she is trying to stop you...
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Earl_the_Pearl
How does she know? Dancers that do extras try to hide that from other dancers.
its possible a customer who tried to do it to her said hte other dancers let him do it. Customers lie so it may or may not be true. Ive had customers be like "well i was in here before with ____ and she totally let me touch her pussy." Does this mean that said girl is doing extras? No, not necessarily. A customer willing to try to touch a girls vag after being slapped away has already proven himself to not be a particularly honest character. However, your friend might have been having a rotten day and decided to believe the customer for whatever reason.
Re: when you are trying to touch a dancers vajayjay and she is trying to stop you...
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Earl_the_Pearl
How does she know? Dancers that do extras try to hide that from other dancers.
The private dance booths in one venue are separated by curtains. She could hear what was going on, and in one case see silhouettes on the curtain. (The light in her booth failed and she was in semi-darkness).
Phil.
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Athenathefabulous
Man i swear these men are dumber than dogs. There is a 4 month old puppy around my house, and i only need to tap its nose and yell no dont chew on that max of 3 times before it gets the message. With some men it doesnt matter how many times i slap their hands away and tell them no, they still dont get the message. Evolution at its finest.
Not always dumb I'm afraid, but predatory.
Some douchebags get a kick out of forcing their will on dancers. And some persuade themselves that, even though the dancer resists, she secretly likes it.
At least your puppy is not malicious.
Phil.
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what do you mean "hear what was going on?" There is no distinct noise of fingers entering a vag that would be heard over club music.
Its possible that the customer wanted her to talk dirty or face orgasm noises... i have seen some dancers make fake orgasm noises as part of their hustle when they werent getting fingered etc., although personally i found it very awkward to have to listen to it. And there are always customers who want dirty talk.
Or maybe your friend is right and her coworkers have decided to take a turn for the dirty. The times are rough :(.
** im not trying to be rude with questioning what she heard. Im playing devils advocate a bit. you said they used to be clean dancers... its pretty depressing when previously clean girls start resorting to doing extras :(.
***ya the puppy isnt malicious. I was being facetious mostly with that comment. When dealing with the whole predatory customer thing, sometimes i try to find some humor in it. For instance, i think it is really funny that i was considering buying puppy spray both for the puppy and for myself-- to stop the puppy from chewing my shoes and to stop the customers from licking my titties.
Re: when you are trying to touch a dancers vajayjay and she is trying to stop you...
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Earl_the_Pearl
How does she know? Dancers that do extras try to hide that from other dancers.
I always check out the booths as I walk by to see which guys are buying dances. Also, when I get bored, I'll sometimes go watch the cameras and chat with the dude who watches them. Really, when you've been working at a club long enough, you see things. It's not as easy as you think to do extras in the club and keep it a secret forever.
Re: when you are trying to touch a dancers vajayjay and she is trying to stop you...
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Earl_the_Pearl
How does she know? Dancers that do extras try to hide that from other dancers.
Oh please. At least where I work, we all know who does what. I find it particularly amusing to torment them.
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^Agreed. I walk in on girls doing extras at my club every once and a while. And you can tell who's doing extras by just seeing how the dancer and customer behave outside the LD booth.
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audrey_k
^Agreed. I walk in on girls doing extras at my club every once and a while.
Yes, if you actually see them do extras then you know.
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audrey_k
And you can tell who's doing extras by just seeing how the dancer and customer behave outside the LD booth.
Now here, I disagree. and making assumptions without actually seeing anything extra going on is how rumors get spread around the club and drama gets started.
You dont know how she hustles, she might have an overly flirtatious hustle. she also might use the bait and switch hustle, in which case she would act like she would do more, then not follow through.
I guess this irks me a bit when girls assume they know exactly what other girls are doing without witnessing it. This kind of bullshit got some rumors started about me when i was on a high earning streak. I think most girls on this board who have been among the top earners of their club have probably had rumors spread about them at work saying they get so much money because it is 'known' that they do xyz in the private rooms. I think that girls should really take a little bit of care before declaring that they 'know' who the extras girls are.
Re: when you are trying to touch a dancers vajayjay and she is trying to stop you...
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Phil-W
Some of the problem might be that the percentage of girls who allow it (although still small) is increasing.
It depends on where you go clubbing.
In the greater NYC and Philadelphia areas there are so many dancers in S-C's providing extras now, of all sorts, that an inexperienced customer could easily assume this is just how things work in strip-clubs.
Now mind you, I am NOT at all suggesting that is the dancers fault. Those that work clean should be able to go to work and do their thing without getting molested. I'm just saying there are two sides to every tale and the other side of this one is that the current situation regarding availabilities of extras in clubs muddies the water pretty good.
Of course this makes for a more compelling argument by dancers who don't provide extras that the presence of extras in the clubs makes their working conditions more unsavory and difficult.
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Athenathefabulous
Yes, if you actually see them do extras then you know.
Now here, I disagree. and making assumptions without actually seeing anything extra going on is how rumors get spread around the club and drama gets started.
You dont know how she hustles, she might have an overly flirtatious hustle. she also might use the bait and switch hustle, in which case she would act like
she would do more, then not follow through.
I guess this irks me a bit when girls assume they
know exactly what other girls are doing without witnessing it. This kind of bullshit got some rumors started about me when i was on a high earning streak. I think most girls on this board who have
been among the top earners of their club have probably had rumors spread about them at work saying they get so much money because it is
'known' that they do xyz in the private rooms. I think that girls should really take a little bit of care before declaring that they 'know' who the extras
;)girls are.
What I'm talking about is, if a customer tells every girl he won't do a VIP unless he gets fucked and then a girl does a VIP with him and;) they come out all buddy buddy after. Or she has a supply of condoms in her purse that gets smaller throughout the night. Or she puts her hand on guys crotches or down their pants on the floor. Or the guy come out of the room with their pants unzipped or unbuttoned. All of which happens every night at my club.
Re: when you are trying to touch a dancers vajayjay and she is trying to stop you...
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audrey_k
What I'm talking about is, if a customer tells every girl he won't do a VIP unless he gets fucked and then a girl does a VIP with him and;) they come out all buddy buddy after. Or she has a supply of condoms in her purse that gets smaller throughout the night. Or she puts her hand on guys crotches or down their pants on the floor. Or the guy come out of the room with their pants unzipped or unbuttoned. All of which happens every night at my club.
ok ya those are pretty good signs. i guess i have never worked at a club where girls were so obvious about doing extras. ive seen a few things go down, but most of it was invisible. i mean i know they existed because there were condoms etc in the couches, but the girls were always much more discrete about it.
Re: when you are trying to touch a dancers vajayjay and she is trying to stop you...
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Athenathefabulous
ok ya those are pretty good signs. i guess i have never worked at a club where girls were so obvious about doing extras. ive seen a few things go down, but most of it was invisible. i mean i know they existed because there were condoms etc in the couches, but the girls were always much more discrete about it.
I think the girls who do that kind of stuff actually think that they are being discreet. Either they are morons or they think everyone else is.
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I'll admit, there have been a few times when Ive gotten a little handsy during a lap dance and I moved my hand down between a dancers legs. Usually when this happens they just move my hands away and this is a clear message that its off limits.
There was one occasion where a dancer moved my hand down there and let me rub her on the outside of her outfit. This was on the fourth lap dance I got from her. It was a slow night and most of the guys were being jerks to her and demanding that she sit with them but not pay for anything. She said that I was the only one who actually bought a dance from her and that she decided to let me have a little fun. She even let me continue rubbing her after the song was over and I said that I didnt feel like buying anymore dances. I guess I made her night even though I only spent $80 on her.
Point is, is that it doesnt hurt to ask a dancer where she likes to be touched but understand that NO means NO.
And dancer's, if a guy gets handsy even after you've pushed and hit him then just call the bouncer to whoop his ass. I know I would turn my eyes away from the stage to see that.
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On my first LD, which was in a contact club where touching anywhere except the crotch was allowed, I touched the stripper on her inner thigh a few centimetres from her crotch, up to the leg tendon there, and she didn't say anything. She was a really gorgeous girl so I wouldn't suspect she was into extras. I had no intention of breaking the rules, I was just seeing how far I was allowed to go within them. Of course if and when I had broken the rules and touched her crotch she maight well have said something. But it's odd that she didn't stop me when I got that close. But then in that club it was okay to touch strippers (during LDs) anywhere on their asses, which also means being able to go close to the off-limits area.
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Don't understand ever wanting to go there without an invitation and certainly can't phantom why anyone would wrestle through a LP or multiple LPs. In two decades of visiting SCs, I've really only touched one dancer in that way. She'd dance for me numerous times but I won't say we had a regular arrangement. She asked if I wanted a second danced. When I said yes, she said, "Then you'll have to put your hand here," placing my hand on her kitty. Kind of strange, because it was in the club's open area and right in front of the stage. I was not at all comfortable with the situation.