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Whores, Please use a little discretion
So I moved to Austin, and Austin is a Champagne room free city. So there are no real private areas at the club I work at. I assumed this would mean it was relatively extra free, although i do see a lot of 2 way contact dances (by 2 way contact i mean areas NOT covered by thong).
So here is my story/rant. It is towards the end of the night and tehre are two wealthy customers in. Now Mind you, they are sitting pretty much at the center of the club, in one of the most visible tables in the whole venue. One guy is occupied by a petite girl in glasses, so i talk to the other guy. Next song, the guy i am not talking to starts getting a dance from his stripper and i am making small talk with my customer... i look over at some point and see the other guy put his hand down the front of his stripper's thong... i expect her to swat it away but she doesnt, and then she looks at me, MAKES EYE CONTACT WITH ME, and proceeds to ignore his hand. I think she also might have given me a slight smile, but im really not sure. I guess at this point my jaw dropped and i stopped conversation, because my customer was like "whats up? You look shocked" I muttered something and said it was nothing and quickly changed the topic.
Well next song I offer to entertain my customer via a dance... and i am doing this cautiously, because at this point i assume that since my customer noticed me shocked looking at his companion that he noticed his buddy petting the pussy... but my customer was either really dense or a saint, because he didnt try anything beyond touching my hip.
So i spent pretty much the rest of my night dancing for this guy, while periodically looking over in horror as the action continued. At one point the other guy was doing some very vigorous clitoral rubbing... like my god... not inconspicuous at all. And the whole time i am shocked that my customer is still buying dances and acting respectful... and i am expecting him to notice at some point and be like "hey why cant i do that".
and to add salt to the wound, my guy is like "why arent their champagne rooms here? I would love to do a champagne room with you", so of course i start thinking ':banghead: yea i wish there were CRs too, because then i wouldnt have to watch your buddy molest my coworker and i know i could sell you some really expensive champagne.'
Ugh. I just cant believe it. SHE MADE EYE CONTACT WITH ME WHILE GETTING HER PUSSY RUBBED! I mean shit, most dirty girls at that point would at least make some attempt to pretend that they werent allowing it, or would move the customer to a corner, or at least NOT THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKIN CLUB.
But no.
Please, hoes, if you are going to be dirty, at least make some attempt to hide it and pretend that you have some decency. Really.
>:(
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Re: Whores, Please use a little discretion
This happened to me while working in Dallas. The guy stuck his hand down the front of her thong and she just smiled at me while he was doing it! This was from across the room, how fucking weird?
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oy! yea it was creepy. like come on, really? You are going to look at me and smile while some guy rubs your pussy for 20$?
ugh.
man, i was tempted to snitch to the managers. and im against snitching, even when it comes to dirty coworkers who damage the industry.
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Thats nasty why would you want a strange man rubbing you vag and why would he want to. Iiilllll thats gross nast germy hands and nasty possibly germy pussy.
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^I am sure the pussy was germy. Anyone who lets her pussy get rubbed in the most visible spot of the club has surely allowed more to happen in more discreet areas.
I dont think ive ever actually seen an extra to this extent happen. Ive worked at de facto whorehouses before, but all of the action was behind curtains. I mean ive seen a lot of really raunchy lap dances, especially at cheerleaders pgh, but i havent witnessed excessive clitoral rubbing that was so out in the open. Not that there is an appropriate level of clitoral rubbing in the strip club, but this was just over the top.
Oy im gonna have nightmares about this.
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If a girl was getting some serious clitoral rubbing out on the floor in front of everyone, she would be immediately fired. My club is hardly considered real 'clean' anymore, but if someone did allow that they would be fired. I can't believe mgmt didn't say anything, but I know some don't care or are not paying attention at all. That just seems completely disgusting. I have seen quite a few girls make out with customers on the floor VERY openly and that is also disgusting. The more extras are tolerated, the more the extra whores don't care. I can't imagine what the girl will do in the back if she allows all that. Be careful at this club.
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I PM'ed you.
If you want, I will send you my number and I will tell you how you can actually do YOUR OWN champagne rooms. I do it.
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^Lol, send me that PM, too. My club has a VIP room that I occasionally try to sell as the champagne room, but since the club doesn't have an official stance on it, it can often be difficult. Especially since in NY, we can't ask for a specific amount for a tip. It's illegal. So I can't say, "If you tip me $500, I'll sit with you in the VIP room for two hours." It fucking blows.
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Have you talked to the management about this? Maybe they need to be reminded that it's tough to tell your customers to behave when they are seeing other people getting extras. You don't need to name names, just tell them you straight out saw it and that you would appreciate if they reminded the dancers that extras are against the law and cause problems for other dancers.
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ugh nasty, this reminds me of this guy who comes in ALLL time who constantly asks all the girls if he can rub them...i danced for him once, he requested this, got denied, then asked again if we went into the vip area if he could, for a whole 60 dollars (what my cut is). it grosses me out to think there's girls out there that would do it for any amount of money, but 60 dollars is laughable and 20 dollars is just disgusting. just reading that and thinking about this nasty dude is grossing me out. BLECK!
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Originally Posted by
rubyredlipsss
ugh nasty, this reminds me of this guy who comes in ALLL time who constantly asks all the girls if he can rub them...i danced for him once, he requested this, got denied, then asked again if we went into the vip area if he could, for a whole 60 dollars (what my cut is). it grosses me out to think there's girls out there that would do it for any amount of money, but 60 dollars is laughable and 20 dollars is just disgusting. just reading that and thinking about this nasty dude is grossing me out. BLECK!
Ugh. It also grosses me out when girls have orgasms from lapdances. I've only seen it a few times but I thought I was really going to throw up.
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I totally would have snitched. I am a big fat snitch and I don't care. I'm hoping that somehow this was the girls' first night and she somehow was mislead to think that was normal... cause that is just fucked.
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^^ Yup. I terrorise them, then snitch them out. I don't give a fuck. There was this one girl at my club a few months ago that I caught doing shit several times. I used to tell her it was a shame she was ugly and had no personality, otherwise she wouldn't have to suck dick for money. Then I caught her eating out a female customer right on the main floor, and my hustle buddy and I promptly told the manager, and she was fired.
I don't want to work with some nasty ass whores. But it does come in handy when I am having a bad day so I can use them for emotional punching bags.
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^ that is epic. and yeah i dont get girls coming from dances...i work with girls that will also be over the top moaning and really REALLY fucking loud about it to the point where it over-powers the music...and always seems to happen during a 2 for 1...i don't understand that either, maybe because it's not my style. ::)
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Originally Posted by
hot4ablackchick
If a girl was getting some serious clitoral rubbing out on the floor in front of everyone, she would be immediately fired. My club is hardly considered real 'clean' anymore, but if someone did allow that they would be fired. I can't believe mgmt didn't say anything, but I know some don't care or are not paying attention at all. That just seems completely disgusting. I have seen quite a few girls make out with customers on the floor VERY openly and that is also disgusting. The more extras are tolerated, the more the extra whores don't care. I can't imagine what the girl will do in the back if she allows all that. Be careful at this club.
I dont know if any other staff members noticed, although it was really out in the open. Like it literally was one of the most conspicuous spots of the club. There is no 'back' here, there are no CRs or private rooms, although there are areas of the club that are definitely more discreet than others. Its actually one of the better known clubs in town... it doesnt have a ghetto reputation at all. Until i saw this, it just struck me as your typical club where fairly high contact dances are done on the floor.
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Originally Posted by
mediocrity
I PM'ed you.
If you want, I will send you my number and I will tell you how you can actually do YOUR OWN champagne rooms. I do it.
I always appreciate the additional advice :). In this particular situation, negotiating time wasnt really possible because it was like maybe 15 min till close? I am going to buy a little watch that looks bracelet-y so i can start negotiating my time better. I just miss the CRs because its nice to have the option to sell some really expensive time... i feel like without the CR its not possible to charge like say 700 an hour. When you have a nice bottle of champagne and a visually appealing CR it definitely helps with the sale. Selling time for like 300 an hour seems a bit more feasible without the help of the rooms. And i know 300 an hour is fairly standard for what you keep after fees for champagne rooms at other clubs... I just got spoiled off of the upselling system at the clubs where i came from. But yea, any additional advice would definitely be awesome! Im a bit rusty on negotiating time without the help of hte rooms.
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Originally Posted by
Kylea2
Have you talked to the management about this? Maybe they need to be reminded that it's tough to tell your customers to behave when they are seeing other people getting extras. You don't need to name names, just tell them you straight out saw it and that you would appreciate if they reminded the dancers that extras are against the law and cause problems for other dancers.
I guess this would have been the smart way to do it. I wouldnt even be able to have named her anyway, ive only worked there twice and i dont know any names... she was just a petite brunette with glasses, and i think there are more than one of those. When i first saw it my first reaction was just wtf... then i was tempted to get up and get a bouncer to catch her in the act, but instead i returned my focus to my own customer. I think next time i work there i might tell management that i saw something the last time i was there... not sure whether or not they will care.
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Originally Posted by Jessie_tinydancer
I totally would have snitched. I am a big fat snitch and I don't care. I'm hoping that somehow this was the girls' first night and she somehow was mislead to think that was normal... cause that is just fucked.
i doubt it was her first night... she looked like she was an experienced albeit dirty hustler. I guess ive always retained anti snitching values from my pre-stripping days... ive snitched once my whole time dancing and it was only because a girl was actively bothering me, as in one of my dirtier rivals tried to interrupt and embarass me during a lap dance i was doing and i didnt want to cause a scene so immediately after the dance i told the manager to tell her to fuck off. I dont know why, but i just have trouble bringing myself to snitch... even if a girl should inarguably be fired for what she is doing (like getting her pussy rubbed in the middle of the floor).
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This reminds me of a club I danced at in Toronto. The dance couches were back to back so you would be face on with the girl on the couch behind you while giving dances. This was a fairly open area as well. So this chick is CLEARLY fucking this guy while looking at me as shes on the couch behind me screaming "OMG FUCK MY CUNT HARDER! YOUR COCK FEELS SO GOOD IN MY PUSSY OH YEA CUM IN ME BABY!!!" :O While bouncing up and down and his fingers were OBVIOUSLY in her asshole and im sitting there like 'wtf' then she screaming "FINGER MY ASSHOLE WHILE YOU FUCK MY PUSSY!" I just about fainted.
Best of it was manager walked by and looked at her and continued on... /:O
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I get all freaked out if guys touch my boobs and will gladly end the session if they take offense when I move their hand.
It would sicken me to see this knowing she probably doesn't charge and appropriate amount to boot.
To me if dancers like guys touching their pussy they should not be dancing and should look into being an independent.
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so today i ended up at this same club, i went to apply at a new club first, but they informed me that i needed a dress, and i only brought my target bra and booty shorts that have become my money making uniform these days.
I didnt talk to management about the issue.
A customer came in who informed me that he had been married for 40 yrs, loved his wife, but once in a yr he went to a SC and he wanted me to be his fantasy to last him for the next yr. So I sold one of their stupid little VIP booths, which is 60$ to the club then i negotiate stuff on top of that. So i negotiated my time like a good little stripper, and told the customer that the booth would provide a more comfortable environment to help him with his fantasy. The customer kind of half lied down on the booth, which didnt bother me. But one of the managers quickly came over and was like "you arent at home. sit up."
Then I did a dance or two for the guy, then started talking. Now my typical chatting pose for a customer who purchases my time is to perch on their lap facing them. So i am chatting with the customer and i get called over by the other manager. He informs me that he needs to see me dancing more, i cant just sit straddling the customer. I apologized and told him that i was just talking to the guy, I had sold my time, and sitting on a guys lap facing him and talking has always been standard champagne room activity for me. The manager responded "well its not about champagne room activity, blowjobs are standard champagne room activity." I took offense to this but didnt say anything.
On the way out the manager told me it was because of the authorities, that i would get in trouble for sitting in the position i was. He told me he didnt think i was doing anything dirty but had to stop it anyway. So im glad that he didnt think i was trying to do anything dirty, i thought that is what his comment about blowjobs implied.
So yea... since i have seen much 2 way contact on the floor... i cant tell where managements head is.
To be clear:
Activity that draws managements attention:
customer lying down in a VIP booth
girl straddling and talking to a customer
Activity that does not draw managements attention:
2 way contact lap dances with obvious boob groping
pussy rubbing in the middle of the floor
Im not trying to bash the management of this club... Im just kind of like wtf. its not a bad club and it has a better reputation than most in austin.
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Chances are there probably are laws about how long you can be on the customer's lap for. You might want to look up the laws for the area you are in.
I'm pretty up-front with people. I think I'd confront the manager on the comment about blowjobs in the champagne room being "standard", tell him what you saw. Then say that isn't your style and you just want to know upfront what it is that is okay and what isn't okay. Tell him you want clarification so you aren't getting into trouble for things that you see as being minor... like sitting in customers' laps.
Also remember that management is normally stricter on newer girls.
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Originally Posted by
mediocrity
I PM'ed you.
If you want, I will send you my number and I will tell you how you can actually do YOUR OWN champagne rooms. I do it.
Oooh! Send it to me, too! In my club, our champagne room actually makes us LESS money, so I have no incentive to sell it! We have normal lap dance rooms as well. I'd be curious to hear what you have to say if you're willing to PM me!
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Oh and about the OP...I've had girls do that to me too. They'll be rubbing their tits in the guys' faces (totally illegal in my city), and looking at me. Super offensive. I mean, at least have enough dignity to feel bad about what you're doing...
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Originally Posted by
MissShyGirl
This reminds me of a club I danced at in Toronto. The dance couches were back to back so you would be face on with the girl on the couch behind you while giving dances. This was a fairly open area as well. So this chick is CLEARLY fucking this guy while looking at me as shes on the couch behind me screaming "OMG FUCK MY CUNT HARDER! YOUR COCK FEELS SO GOOD IN MY PUSSY OH YEA CUM IN ME BABY!!!" :O While bouncing up and down and his fingers were OBVIOUSLY in her asshole and im sitting there like 'wtf' then she screaming "FINGER MY ASSHOLE WHILE YOU FUCK MY PUSSY!" I just about fainted.
Best of it was manager walked by and looked at her and continued on... /:O
Dude. You must be joking. That is...wow. :O
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charlie61
Dude. You must be joking. That is...wow. :O
I so wish I was joking. Seriously. I was just sitting there going :O
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There is no law in Austin about how long you can sit in a customers lap. It is also par for the course for management to act totally schizo and call out one girl while letting others do what ever. Austin sucks like that. And extras are par for the course in Texas as a rule in general. Although Austin is not as bad as other cities, coochie touching is not unheard of. I hate dancing in Austin, management sucks and money is not all that great. Alot of managers have power trips out here. And Mediocrity is right, you gotta do your own VIP.
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Ew ....... I'm still all skeeved out. I think I saw a dancer get fingered. She was at least showing pussy and I know I saw fingers over the thong. I think they were only going over 'cause my custie and I walked in. Gross. I've only worked with her once and I hope she's not there this weekend. Ew. At least take it out of the club. She only sold like 3 dances though and I was in the room forever after I caught her - haha.