Heh..there IS no bouncer at the door..and there IS no cover charge..went to check out another club near me and it's the same there too- seems like thats the norm? =/
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Heh..there IS no bouncer at the door..and there IS no cover charge..went to check out another club near me and it's the same there too- seems like thats the norm? =/
losers.
the only ones that actually bother me at this point are the ones who say really stupid shit.
"i don't get dances, but come back when you're ready to be real."
"i am real"
"oh yeah?" (he gets all excited)
"yep. a real stripper in a real stripclub. you're the dumbass who came here looking for something you can't have."
if i'm having a good night financially, telling off guys like that is a lot of fun.
True, they suck, but they serve a higher purpose. They make the club not look empty so the money guys don't feel uncomfortable and leave.
I had such a shitty night last night. Like, not one dance, didn't even make back my freelance fee because I wasn't in the zone. Aside from a lot of OTHER THINGS, the guys who sit around and want to talk and don't get dances are the worst. And the club was just full of them yesterday.
in Canada the smallest bill that we have is a 5$ and these guys were from America I guess with 1$ bills and were like, "we're going to lay on stage with the bill on our face and she'll sit on us to take it, right?" And I was like, "dude, probably not for a dollar", rolled my eyes, stood up and walked away. I mean really?! ONE FUCKING DOLLAR?! You're not going to buy dances and you want a girl to be all over you for ONE DOLLAR?
Ugghhhhhhhh! That sucks! I hope tonight is better for you.
just bought Strip and Grow Rich. I know what I did wrong last night. I was just not in the mood. Last night sucked so whatever. Tonight will be better.
I always try to get in the zone, and picture paying off bills, always gets me going, but very true- sick of the damn freeloaders!! I SO want to make a sign that says "if you dont plan on getting dances, there are plenty bars in the area that can take care of your sports and beer needs" hahaha..
I know freeloaders are as annoying as all hell and it used to get under my skin that they were even there...but one of the best things I have done for my money is just not let them bother me. Yeah, it's not easy, but the guys who do have money can pick up on stress and irritation and it will put them off. As a general rule, I do not sit with a customer for any amount of time longer than I would mind losing if I didn't make a sale. So even if I do get roped in by a cheap guy, one to three songs later, I have his number, I'm gone, and I haven't really lost too much by sitting with him. Also, I am initially polite to all customers even if I am brushing them off. I try to cultivate and maintain a positive energy all night, and for me, being rude to someone, even a time waster, interferes with that.
I do try to keep in mind that oftentimes, guys are not the best at being direct and honest, and it is possible I am just not his type and this is one of the lame lines guys use in an attempt to avoid hurting a stripper's feelings. He may have money, even a little, for another girl and if the roles were reversed I wouldn't want to think another girl had put a potential customer of mine into a bad mood by being really rude to him. Not that I am implying anyone should be particularly nice or accommodating to these guys, just that my advice is try to make sale, and if you can't, excuse yourself and forget all about him. I think it is better for your attitude and the club overall.
Thanks zombee! Definitely makes sense, I'm always smiiley and friendly to EVERYONE..a little too nice I think , I'm going to try to pull the sweet and friendly but a teeny stuck up if they pull that crap on me tomorrow haha.
I think this is the best advice. Sometimes guys may just say cheap-y, douche-y things because they are just not interested. I won't get shitty with a guy because he doesn't want a dance or appears "cheap." I never invest too much time with a customer before asking for a dance, and will not talk to the known cheapos who come in. If a guy says something silly, I will either playfully make fun of them, or excuse myself and walk away. If its clear he's not going to buy lots of drinks or get a dance, BYE and have a nice night. I will sit alone before I sit with some cheap ass or a guy who is not interested. Yes they are very annoying, but once you allow yourself to become annoyed it will affect your hustle mindset. Best to block them out and keep moving.
Oh i'm definitely getting good at blocking them out, wish them a nice night and walk away- never bitchy cuz who knows if they decide they want a dance later or something. Just really annoying- when these guys say they don't get dances, they really dont- from me, or anyone- they come for a free show, MAYBE tip on stage, then theres the ones that stand against the wall and not go up to even tip us- jerks. I don't let it ruin my hustle, but usually after a bunch of freeloaders in a row and the club is dead, i'll regroup in the DR for a few minutes and then go back out. Wish there was a way to deter them a bit..but with all the huge ass screen TVs in my club- its no wonder =/
^ tbh, i don't understand the ones that just sit and watch. the average customer spends 20 bucks just to be there with door fee and minimum drink purchase. if you want to look, get a magazine or watch redtube for free or something. or go find a drunk skank at a real bar that might actually have sex with you.
i don't think those guys are jerks. i think they're crazy.
but i think the same about guys who pay for a handjob or something when they can stay home and masturbate for free. or even a blowjob or full service. dude, just stay home. maybe buy some lotion or something. way cheaper.
must be very sad, empty people.
There was a guy who straight up told me he goes to a whore house in Nevada because it's not a cock tease.. So I asked him wtf he was doing in a strip club since he will be getting only teased and definitely not pleased. He told me he just wanted to come watch the stage dances (and not tip of course). So I was upset and I asked him how he thought it was fair that he comes in every week and just sits there not buying dances, not tipping on stage, not buying alcohol, while we are working for nothing. He was like, "Oh, they don't pay you hourly here??" I felt kinda bad for blowing up because somehow he thought we got paid by the house. I told him no and he handed me a 20. Then left. Whatever. So now I mention it to people (sometimes, and very selectively) and they become more understanding that we only make money off what they give us. Like people wouldn't know that already. But some guys don't I guess. Maybe it was a little rude but it's worth it to say something. They are getting a free show while we give them attention and work our asses off and end up not paying our bills at the end of the day. Whatever, it felt good to say something, adds a guilt on them instead of stress on you.
I feel for you, but the way I look at it is that time is money. If there is a guy in there all the time who is not tipping, I ignore him. It has no affect on me because I am there working anyway. To keep myself sane and in the money, I ignore him. I feel that taking the time to go to him and talk about it only drags me down and keeps me away from my more immediate goal of making money.
The real key here, in my opinion, is to rise above it and move on to the money. Then, after work, come bitch about it here with us. It is really hard to do, but why let him take your time away?
I agree with moving on to find money, but when the club is dead and the ones you already approached 'dont get dances' there is no money lol. I was told the other night that we are just a cock tease and why would he want to spend money for that..i told him cuz he's here to have fun..he didn't buy it. Another guy said 'i'd want to get a dance but then i wouldnt want to stop and i dont want to do that..' so i said it'll be just 1 dance (it was dead and rather get 1 dance out of him, than no dances at all) he didn't buy into it either =/
^^Yeah that's what happened to me- it's when it was really slow and there was no money anyways. If there were other customers, I couldn't care less if there are freeloaders because I am getting my money and that's all that matters. However.. When no one is spending and the club is dead (which it usually is), I say something. Just my style I guess.
I mentioned this to this guy the other day. I told him that he should buy dances from girls who don't go on stage too - not just exclusively from schedule girls. He looked at me and said "They're the only ones working for their money". I asked him why he was there if he hated strippers and walked away ::)
If there's a nice sized crowd I usually don't bother with this type. I'll just laugh and tell them, if you wanted to find someone to go home with you you should have tried a singles bar. When it is really slow though, I'll use a few tactics on them if I have nothing better to do.
I compare strippers to cooks. You don't come into a a restaurant, enjoy the food, and then ask the cook to come home with you and cook for you there.
I explain that with prostitutes, it's a one time deal that may or may not be exactly what they wanted. With dancers, we provide a fantasy. Everything we do is similar to sex and foreplay. With what we give you you can go home later and live it thousands of different ways exactly how you like it.
When I get a real ass who keeps asking me how much I'll say, "If you even have to think about how much my private dances are, you could never dream to afford me for a night." (Though I don't have a price anyways.)
Although it might not get the freeloader into the couch room, I would much rather tell him that "I want to go play with you" than , "You should come with me because you are here to have fun"
the former shows him that I not only see something special about him, but that I am here because I want to be, and I want to go have fun with him. The latter tells him that "I am great, and therefore, I am unapproachable"
This may seem mundane, or it may seem radical, either way, it works. It gives me the best shot at getting the guy to the couch, and even if he doesn't go, it keeps my head in the game.
I didn't think of it like that! I guess it really is little words that make a difference, youre awesome <3
At my club, these guys are usually at the bar or seated very close to it.
I usually say, " Oh, yeah? Thanks for the heads up! What'cha drinkin'?"
If they don't offer me a drink after they answer me, I take it as a sign to make an exit very soon. If they seem otherwise nice, I'll usually try to flirt for a quick tip as I'm leaving and/or ask them to say hi when I'm on stage.
If they do offer a drink and seem like they are the drink buying type but that's it, well, they become my resident go-to guy for drinks for the rest of the night when I'm taking a break from hustling other customers or passing by them.
So they can be useful in that way. With a few of these types who are also club regulars, they are conditioned in to buying one or two non-alcoholic drinks when the night is winding to a close. They can be sort of like guardians every now and again, happy to help you sober up with juice/water/soda at the end of the night. I appreciate it and show my gratitude with little quick hugs and a sincere thank you when they're buying and everyone's happy.
The not-so-nice ones are catalogued as DNA (Do not Approach) for the rest of the night. It at least helps to weed out spenders from non-spenders. Just smile and carefully avoid...;P
^^ Ooh I like the drink line! At my new club we don't get commission from drinks, yet was told that we need to get guys to buy us drinks (nice, right?) so this is perfect :D
I don't understand, why would they be there in the first place if they don't buy dances?