Re: White Knight Syndrome
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Originally Posted by
SteveSmith
The OP is an example of White Knightism. He's trying to rescue the dancers from these awful customers, ironically, White Knights. Phil-W is another classic White Knight who tries to rescue the dancers on this forum from all sorts of awful customers. :D
IMHO Phil is actually closer to the mark, but I'll let him respond as he sees fit.
As the OP, I can tell you that White Knight is the last thing anyone would call me. I screw strippers, which really rules out the saving game. Some girls here have some exotic names for me - none of them complimentary :-\ - but White Knight ain't one of them.
My goal was simply to discuss a practice that I find painfully hypocritical.
Re: White Knight Syndrome
Would anyone here consider Bem a WhiteKnight, since he finds stripping and SC customers disdainful...yet seems to spend most of his free social time hanging out with strippers?
Re: White Knight Syndrome
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Originally Posted by
FBR
To be perfectly honest, I would rather corrupt a dancer.
FBR
Not my proudest moments, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't BTDT.
By some twisted rational I think that is why I enjoy going to the clubs with dancer friends of mine. If *she* does the corrupting and I only help I can't be totally to blame. {dopey grin}
Re: White Knight Syndrome
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Originally Posted by
KS_Stevia
My guy to Joe's reason: that these guys actually care and want to protect these girls they feel are being exploited?
Well that is truly sad than because the outcome will likely either fall into one of two categories.
1) She isn't being exploited and therefore doesn't need to be saved at all.
2) She may be being exploited but you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped and therefore he is wasting his time.
Either way, its not working out for Mr. White Knight.
Failure is his only likely outcome.
Re: White Knight Syndrome
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Originally Posted by
KS_Stevia
Would anyone here consider Bem a WhiteKnight, since he finds stripping and SC customers disdainful...yet seems to spend most of his free social time hanging out with strippers?
He might be if he spent money but he doesn't. To me at least, spending is a key component of White Knighting since it's a key component of the hidden-agenda superiority complex that WK's try to hold over the women they are trying to save.
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Please refrain from discussing other sites in detail especially naming names.
Thank you.
FBR
Re: White Knight Syndrome
In my opinion, 'white knight complex' stems from one or more the following:
1. Passive aggressive blinders on attempt to get in a dancer's panties-
The customer thinks that he will 'be different' by pretending he is interested in 'the real you', instead of just admitting to himself that
he has normal desires that make the dancer extremely attractive to
him. he cannot reconcile that he thinks sexual thoughts about the
dancer like the 'other custies' in the club, when he is interested in the dancer because of her looks instead of whatever other reason he conjures. He secretly hopes the dancer sees that he is 'interested in her
in more than a sexual way', when he in fact is interested in her for that reason. The knight would not make such of a fuss over the dancer if
she was unattractive and worked at Target, even if the personality is identifical. Still, he believes the dancer might believe he is different and special if he pretends not to notice her sex appeal.
2. Fear of sexual women-this white knight is afraid of women that
like to flaunt their bodies and sexuality in a fun way. The knight is threatened by a woman who is highly sexual and flirty. He doesn't think a woman should act that way, so he uses the 'white knight' fasaud to
try to control the sexually expressive woman and guilt trip her.
This type of dude needs to go to a church group instead of a strip club, he'll definitely have more fun and probably (against all odds?) get some action.
3. Ego massage-this white knight thinks he is superior to other 'lowly customers' since the dancers are 'his friends'. He hangs at the club, looking down at 'mere customers' while desperately hoping for the dancers to take time out of their day to massage his ego. He bullshits himself that dancers are interested in him on a 'deeper level' since he 'doesn't buy dances' and occasioanlly a dancer will talk to him 'for free'.
4. dude is just repressed-dude really shouldn't be in a strip club since he has a moral objection. dude thinks he really is doing the right thing, although his attempted good deed is seriously misled since most girls that dance in a titty bar like dancing in a titty bar and don't want to be saved.
again, needs to go to a church group, soup kitchen, march of dimes and will be much happier and (against the odds) will likely get laid and have more fun.
5. dude that cannot live with grey areas-this guy thinks that unless a woman 'loves him deeply and has sex with him' is somehow a scammer or
liar. he cannot enjoy a hot women cooing in his ear in her underwear because she is not a conquest, and the woman isn't useful unless he can sexually conquer her. this guy cannot enjoy a hot woman flirting with him unless he is hitting it because he's a control freak with an unrealistic view of the world. he thinks any girl who doesn't screw him is somehow defective, and is hostile towards her. he doesn't understand that you can enjoy things about a woman when you are not ejaculating in her vagina.
Guys that don't like viewing women as hot and sexual in a non-commital
way should stay home in my opinion. go to the club to enjoy an awesome 15 minutes with a hot dancer, have a life outside the club, and don't go if it doesn't make you happy. guys that want to save a stripper just need to save their money and get a real girlfriend and quit being time wasters.
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wow a novel^ ~but i think you're right on!
Re: White Knight Syndrome
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Originally Posted by
thatguy6673
In my opinion, 'white knight complex' stems from one or more the following:
Great post, and I think you've definitively nailed it.
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thatguy, hell of a good post.
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Originally Posted by
thatguy6673
5. dude that cannot live with grey areas-this guy thinks that unless a woman 'loves him deeply and has sex with him' is somehow a scammer or
liar. he cannot enjoy a hot women cooing in his ear in her underwear because she is not a conquest, and the woman isn't useful unless he can sexually conquer her. this guy cannot enjoy a hot woman flirting with him unless he is hitting it because he's a control freak with an unrealistic view of the world. he thinks any girl who doesn't screw him is somehow defective, and is hostile towards her. he doesn't understand that you can enjoy things about a woman when you are not ejaculating in her vagina.
Hmm...wonder if parts of this section might be applicable to other personality types as well. }:D