"What happens in the Champagne Room?"
Yes age old question and I'm sure it's been asked on here but I don't feel like searching!!
Last night I offer Champagne Room, which I rarely do..yea yea shame on me, and the guy asked what goes on up there. Realistically this is what goes on: $550 he gets me for the hour, a bottle of champagne, unlimited nude or topless dances and he can touch a little bit (my rule not the club's...it's a no touch club but since he's forking over that kind of money I let them touch my ass/boobs). This is basically what I tell these guys and pretty much 99% of the time they decline. It's not that they don't have the money because they do, I think it's what I say. So what should I say??
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Saying you are breaking the rules probably isn't the best way to get them to buy a dance. You need to be a bit more discreet. Something like "It's a lot more intimate and we can spend some one-on-one time together without being interrupted".
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I just can't win with that line... It's always countered with, "yea but what's so different up there than down here.."
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One of the things we teach in DancerWealth is to turn the questions around on him, "Well what do you want to happen in the champagne room?" and get that answer out of him.
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britneyireland
One of the things we teach in DancerWealth is to turn the questions around on him, "Well what do you want to happen in the champagne room?" and get that answer out of him.
I always do this! It works very well.
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britneyireland
One of the things we teach in DancerWealth is to turn the questions around on him, "Well what do you want to happen in the champagne room?" and get that answer out of him.
I like the approach, but even for guys who ARE willing to spend on a regular room (no extras), isn't that opening the door for answers such as: "have sex, get a hand job/blowjob, etc"?
Then it seems like it might make some customers more likely to decline bc they have the idea of getting more (that they know they won't get) on their minds, and a room, in comparison (even with being able to touch T & A) just doesn't compare to the "real thing."
I mean, I completely understand the approach, and it seems like it works well (turning ques around on customer) when it comes to most topics, but if given the chance to tell a dancer what he wants, I think it opens a can of worms and gives the customer an "out," at times, by allowing him to say that what he wants he can't get at the club.
This may seem like a douchebag/octopus-man/time-waster filter, but I'm guessing that if asked that question, many guys would answer the truth, as opposed to saying that they want endless lapdances where they can only touch T & A for $550/hour.
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^I've tried that line too, and get back "well what is allowed" blah blah..so i've been trying the 'you+me in a private area and have lots of fun' flirty smile etc. If anything ever gets mentioned of extras, I just walk away. Timewaster.
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sunshine16
^I've tried that line too, and get back "well what is allowed" blah blah..so i've been trying the 'you+me in a private area and have lots of fun' flirty smile etc. If anything ever gets mentioned of extras, I just walk away. Timewaster.
that's interesting. do you think it's not worth it bothering with them anymore once they say they want extras? I would always still try to get him to do the room... Maybe cause my club is so slow that when I do get a customer I don't wanna let him go lol..
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^ If they even flat out mention extras, hell no its not worth it. But if they say "what kind of fun.." and of course i say lots of fun, cuz of course its lots of fun having me in your lap! I'll try those. The ones that flat out say hj/bj whatever, no way- not worth it.
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If you ask a guy what he wants, just bc he says he wants to have sex (or do other extras) doesn't mean that he's not worth getting a room with. The majority of guys at a strip club wouldn't turn down sex (or other extras) from a stripper, most likely, but that does not mean that they will not get a room that does not HAVE sex/other extras.
If you're going to straight-up ask the guy what he WANTS in a room, it's not really fair (to him or yourself) that you will discount him as a potential money-making source if he says he wants extras. Of course he wants extras (I will repeat: most, not necessarily all), and you DID ask. I'm sure that the men who I've done rooms with WANT me to have sex with them, but they still get rooms even though they know that they will not be having sex.
Now, it is a different story if you phrase the question differently, such as by asking, "given the club's limitations, what do you want to happen in the CR?" However, my orig response was directed @ BritneyIreland's response to specifically ask, "Well what do you want to happen in the champagne room?"
Maybe things work differently in different locations. I'm basing what I'm saying off of my specific area, as well as taking into account the fact that many guys do try to get extras withoutthe girl even asking what he wants.
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Well, I think the OP should be thankful her club has a VIP option to make more money and use it to her advantage. $550 for private time with a smart beauty like kaia with a bottle of champagne included is completely worth it, and you have to believe that kaia. I sell $1000/hr CR's and then get them to buy a $400 bottle of champagne on top of that the majority of my shifts, because I expect that and believe in my product.
If you sell it correctly, they shouldn't need to ask what the difference is. You really should start off with a VIP room being your main goal, and then go down from there. I think its a good way of selling more dances probably too. If guys think that other guys take you to the CR all the time, than they don't want to miss out, or they feel some type of social approval. If you act like you hardly go back there, they probably don't want to take the risk.
I say things like "remember '7 minutes in Heaven' back in HS? Well this is like 60 min in Heaven!" "But really its so private we feel like we're in our own world... A world of my naked body!" "Aren't my legs soft? We should go to a private room so you can feel more of me!" "I just love to lie around naked drinking champagne and eating strawberries don't you?" "Its so relaxing, I'd love to exchange massages"
I rarely have guys asking me for extras, because I've chatted them up so well beforehand. If a guy does ask but in a roundabout way, I will slyly say "I can't promise that!" If he blatantly asks for a blow job or sex, I will just say "No I don't do that" and politely walk away. A lot of my clubs good customers are "extras guys" so I can't be rude about it. Also, I recently had a guy that asked me about a blow job in a room later that night do a room with me sans BJ cause I guess he didn't find what he was looking for, but really liked the 10min dance I gave him.
Oh and I absolutely don't mind them touching my body all over (besides underwear) for the amount I'm getting. And it kills tons of time and is a great selling point since you can't touch at all during $20 dances.
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When you're closing you need to flirt more too.
When a guy asks "what's the difference" it usually means he either wants you to "sell him" or is just baiting you with no intentions to make a purchase.
There is nothing wrong with being dry one moment and then all over him the next. It throws them off and they don't know what to think. It challenges men to try and get you back to flirty mode. If that mean going to the VIP to do so and they are market they will purchase.
I also agree with BritneyIreland - if his request is reasonable then tell him that you think that can be arranged.
Deliver the value in as few words as possible.
Do not give customers who have not committed a vast menu. Once you've got their money the world is their oyster --- within reason of course.