PETA: Positive and negative POV's
I think PETA has done much that is good for ending animal cruelty. However, I do not like their dogmatic approach that eating meat and dairy products make you the next Hitler.
I don't wear fur, I seldom eat red meat and when I do buy meat and eggs, I try to buy organic and free range whenever possible.
I firmly believe that tolerance is a two way street.
Any PETA detractors\supporters?
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I used to be a PETA supporter. After all I am opposed to fur, animal cruelty, etc. However, I do eat meat and dairy, and wear wool. However I was turned off when I found out that most of the animals PETA takes in are euthanized. I am opposed to that and turned me off to them. That makes them hypocrites. Instead now I give money to no kill animal shelters.
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I don't know much about PETA, but I'd rather help smaller organisations and not something so overly promoted by celebs and such.
If they're already so successful, why not help other organisations that want to make a difference?
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^^agreed... I think no kill animal shelters need the money.
I heard about the euthanizing animals some years ago. That made my blood boil.
However, personal feelings aside, I'm trying to remain objective because I like to hear others opinions.
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Generally speaking I support their work, however there are things I think they go too far with - like saying it's not okay to have animal companions. I'm sorry, but I've taken in strays that kept coming back to my home. If they want to be there I don't think it's right to turn them away if they are doing nothing wrong! On the same token, I don't think there is anything wrong with choosing to share your home with an animal that is not a stray if you can be responsible about it.
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Kylea2
like saying it's not okay to have animal companions.
Really, as in no pets? :(
....googled it...
http://www.peta.org/campaigns/ar-petaonpets.asp
On one hand, I can see some points they are making and I agree with spaying and neutering wholeheartedly, but on the other hand, I have a really hard time with their wish that "pet keeping" just never existed.
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I am kind of fed up with PETA. I think they have a really good message (i.e. no animal cruelty). I do not eat meat products of any sort, nor do I wear fur or leather. It's just something I believe in. However, I'm really fed up with their crude tactics. I think they go way too far in trying to get their message heard. They sent out a comic book a few years ago for little kids called "Your Mommy is a Murderer" or "Your Mommy Kills Animals". Come on.
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CaseyLace
I am kind of fed up with PETA. I think they have a really good message (i.e. no animal cruelty). I do not eat meat products of any sort, nor do I wear fur or leather. It's just something I believe in. However, I'm really fed up with their crude tactics. I think they go way too far in trying to get their message heard. They sent out a comic book a few years ago for little kids called "Your Mommy is a Murderer" or "Your Mommy Kills Animals". Come on.
Yeah, they are basically insane people supporting the right cause. You can be against animal cruelty without supporting the idiots at PETA.
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Peta as in
“SAVE THE WHALES.
Lose the fat. Go vegetarian.”
Yeah they are crazies, but I appreciate their passion for what they claim the are striving for even if there is not much logic behind it & their means are misguided at best.
Then again I'm a meat eating leather wearing thin fast food luvin person who honestly believes humans are top of the food chain for a reason & such animals are supposed to be pets, food, & so on in order for our survival so I really don't feel any more guilt about it then a loin hunts cuz it's their nature & place to do so.
Sure I am against cruelty and animal abuse as that is not needed for our survival, but extremes like never eating meat, testing on animals, using animal products for medicines ect..ect don't help people & as a person animals do come sec to me--especially animals like rats & roaches I could live better without.
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I think they do good work by exposing animal abuse. However, their tactics to guilt people into becoming vegans are a bit extreme. I think they should realize that they can't convince the entire planet to abstain from meat.
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PETA sucks. I can't believe anyone takes them seriously anymore.
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Extremists with good intentions--gone wrong.
It's been my general experience in life that both extremes of any situation are not good, a healthy medium is best. Personally, I believe that animals were put on this earth for us to eat so we can stay nourished and grow strong. I understand that vegans and vegetarians can lead healthy lives, but eating meat just seems natural to me. All sorts of animals are carnivores, it's part of the circle of life. It just so happens we are toward the top of the food chain so we don't get eaten as frequently--unless we're attacked by sharks or lions!
I think Peta has a good message, animal cruelty is wrong, but I think they are too extreme in their opposition. If they lightened up a bit they may be able to gather more support from people who are not willing to make such extreme changes in their life. (i.e. You don't have to be vegetarian, but you can boycott KFC because of their cruelty to chickens until they find their ethics).
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If they lightened up a bit they wouldn't constantly get on the news with the outrageous things they do though.
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I'd have more sympathy with them if they didn't kill 97% of the kittens and puppies handed into their shelters, and didn't stalk and harass their own staff.
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I totally support People Eating Tasty Animals. Predators feed on their prey throughout the entire ecosystem. It's just a natural thing.
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CaseyLace
I do not eat meat products of any sort, nor do I wear fur or leather.
I'm vegetarian, and I live as closely as possible to the ethics of not harming animals. Peta has taken some of this too far though. For example, my car has leather seats. I bought the car used & really debated before I bought it because of the leather... but the price was spectacular. My best friend at the time (also a vegetarian) convinced me by saying "The leather seats are already there... the leather has already been paid for. If you don't buy that car, someone else will - and they will probably be someone who doesn't care. Don't you think it's better that you buy the car & know that you appreciate that an animal lost its life so that leather could be on the seats versus someone who just doesn't care?" She was right! Peta tries to twist things like that around and tell people they shouldn't do things that promote styles that include animal products - which could include faux fur. Personally, that again is a bit extreme for me.
Also, on things like feathers - Peta fails to tell people that they can be ethically sources AND some birds actually need to have old feathers cut out to avoid the build-up of dirt/germs/etc that causes pests & disease to become present.
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I think Ingrid Newkirk needs to get laid to work off all that tension!
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I understand being a vegetarian for health reasons but i don't get the whole not killing animals thing. You do know tens of thousands of mice and bunnies and moles and other various rodents get killed just to keep the vegetables safe and by the harvesters right, and that is without even counting insects as animals which they are.
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Kylea2
I'm vegetarian, and I live as closely as possible to the ethics of not harming animals. Peta has taken some of this too far though. For example, my car has leather seats. I bought the car used & really debated before I bought it because of the leather... but the price was spectacular. My best friend at the time (also a vegetarian) convinced me by saying "The leather seats are already there... the leather has already been paid for. If you don't buy that car, someone else will - and they will probably be someone who doesn't care. Don't you think it's better that you buy the car & know that you appreciate that an animal lost its life so that leather could be on the seats versus someone who just doesn't care?" She was right! Peta tries to twist things like that around and tell people they shouldn't do things that promote styles that include animal products - which could include faux fur. Personally, that again is a bit extreme for me.
Also, on things like feathers - Peta fails to tell people that they can be ethically sources AND some birds actually need to have old feathers cut out to avoid the build-up of dirt/germs/etc that causes pests & disease to become present.
There is nothing wrong with leather. Leather is a by-product of the meat industry. The cows would be slaughtered anyway, even if nobody bought leather.
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I love animals, but as a pit bull fan and ex-owner, their opinions about euthanising ALL pit bulls is something that I cannot tolerate. That, coupled with their mass euthanasia of the animals they 'rescue' and their extremist views on animal companions are real turns offs. My Chloe would be rather upset if she wasn't with me and my bf and getting constant attention. :(
I am trying to stop eating meat, mostly because it makes me chubby and red meat especially makes me feel icky and sluggish. My ideal goal is to be pescatarian, but in the meantime I am eating white meat (pork excluded. Just chicken and turkey.) and fish, with lots of nuts, leafy greens, grains, fruits, and veggies. In the past two weeks I have eaten mammal only twice and it was because there wasn't anything else to eat at the house. I have already noticed a significant decrease in my waist size and increase in energy.
I would feel bad for strict vegans here... there's a barbeque place on every corner and most places cook their veggies with meat and some places serve no veggies at all. To be completely veggie here you HAVE to cook... There aren't any options as far as going 'out'. By the way.. I freakin hate barbeque. I think I've expressed my hatred for it several times on different threads. :D
Anywayyyyy I love my animals but I don't like extremism... it's dangerous in any form.
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I like the fact that they educate people about what factory farming really entails, but agree that they are too dogmatic. Not everyone can be or wants to be a vegan. It's good just to be aware and to take care.
I do not support the rates of euthanasia in their animal shelters.