Does anyone prefer one over the other? Or are you doing both? If so, are you making better money dancing or camming?
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Does anyone prefer one over the other? Or are you doing both? If so, are you making better money dancing or camming?
It feels like apples and oranges to me somewhat. I'll always love the stage. There's just no way to replace that feeling. The sound system has a way of putting you in the zone and for those few songs, you get to be a goddess. The general repertoire between dancers and customers has changed much over the years though. So that dynamic has brought many dancers to doing cam work now. I figure that the general thought process is, if we're going to be antagonized or teased, might as well do it from the comfort of our own homes and save some gas money. Because of the fact that I love stage dancing so much though, I've tried to bring that back into my home and set aside some ethereal goddess time for me.
Camming is not even a thought.
Call me naive but isn't camming just masturbating for money?
I don't shame it but it's not my cup of tea.
I make pretty good money being an exotic dancer and would probably make MORE money if I touched more, let guys touch me more or did other things like dirty talk and masturbate for customers.
This goes above and beyond the art and status of "dancer" and when I say dancer I mean performer who puts on a show or entertains in a visually pleasing manner.
In other words its a tease.
Oops sorry I went off on a tyraid.
/tyraid.
camming seems way more risky to me, being that someone could take a screen shot of you while you're doing whatever and post that picture wherever they wanted on the internet.
That's actually pretty interesting to think about. It can really depend on the girl and what she projects. With dancing, there are more senses to appeal to and camming is more solely visual. For example, with club dancing your hair may lightly whisk by the guy (touch), or the way you smell (after you've doused yourself in body splash or emitted some pheromones). ;D
Those were some of the little things you could do to draw a guy in. With camming, there is more of abrupt approach, because you don't have some of those little things any more. There are some girls who are able to do more of the sensual approach though, just like in the clubs where you have some that pose/turn/smile and some that shake/spread/etc... I think it depends on the girl and finding what niche works for her. If I were to give an opinion overall though, I'd say that a vast majority is that, unless you've started to specialize in certain genres. It's just a totally different mindset (at least that's how it feels to me).
Camming all the way..i do love the stage, but with camming i can stay home, not be touched by anyone..way less stress then stripping (although i do still dance like 1 to 3 times a week at a mostly stage club)
Saying camming is masturbating for money is the same stereotype of strippers fuck all their customers. I work as a camgirl and we are not allowed to even show pink. Some girls do whats called "fake-bating" where you angel the camera to look like your masturbating but youre not. You need to find a good honest site to work with and make sure they dont use your content for other disgusting sites...Dangerous Dolls did this to a friend of mine... and it takes a while to build up money. Each month I make more and more. I do love the stage though. I willbe moving back to Portland and cant wait to do stage only a few nights a week.
I know of some camgirls that can make 5 figures in a month. But it depends on the girl. Just like some strippers can pull in 5 figures a month, but not all can.
Camille,
Yeah, I suppose you're right that anybody CAN take a screen shot of you at any time... which is VERY scary, but I suppose if you're an amateur such as myself it really doesn't matter to me..
now if I was really into the adult industry hardcore dancing or modelling or trying to become some sort of a celebrity level and seeking fame and it came back to bite me in the ass later...and such then that would be a different story.
Besides what's the difference if some dude takes a photo of you while in the SC and does the same exact thing...posts it all over the internet...there's no guarantees that it won't happen.
But some girls do show pink right?Quote:
I work as a camgirl and we are not allowed to even show pink.
Like I said I'm naive to camming and the only shows I've ever seen are girls masturbating and not much more.
I also agree with joining a reputable company. There are some threads about the Deja Vu corp. because they can use your image for anything in the world once you sign on the dotted line.
So be careful!
^^
It's all good. Yeah, a lot do, but there's also the non-nude market as well. I think some customers get more into the suggestiveness of what you might do....or could do.... and that's what puts them over the edge. I kind of like to compare it to those who prefer movies, because they give them the story, no mental work involved. However, there are a few who prefer to read the book, because it allows them to reach deeper into their own imaginations. Intellectual stimulation through sexuality I suppose.
For it's escorting vs. camming and they are completely different in thier own way. they both have thier perks in thier own way.
There are pros and cons to both.
I've been dancing the past ten months and I just started camming 2 weeks ago. So far, I'm making much more camming then I have dancing the past two months. The $$ at the club has just slowed down so much. Weekend money is still better, but during the week, camming is much better $$ wise. I can make more in 2-3 hours then I can at the club for 7 hours.
I love dancing and it's more fun, but the money just sucks during the week. Although a great night at the club is better than camming, it just isn't happening much anymore.
Honestly, with only 2 weeks of camming under my belt, I'm ready to quit dancing. Every night I go to the club now during the week I hate it and I have to seriously resist packing my stuff and just walking out. I'm trying to give it more time in hopes that it'll pick up.
Camming beats dancing hands down in my opinion. A friend of mine says "welcome to the leisure class of adult entertainment" when someone makes the shift from stripping to camming, and that's exactly what it is. Leisure.
Some people erroneously believe that you *have* to do anything and everything while camming, and that is just not true. When you cam, you truly work for yourself and no matter what YOU call the shots. I recently found out about and signed up for some cam sites where there is no pink involved, and going topless is not mandatory either. Some of those girls make tons of money and totally balk at the thought of even wearing fishnet tops because then guys would see them topless! Just like you have your total dive bars where girls are raunchy and turning tricks in the back for $25 compared to your 5-star strip clubs, you have your bottom of the barrel camsites where girls fist their assholes for less than $1/minute, and then you have places where you charge upwards of $10 just for being sexy. It's all up to you what you choose to do.
Then there's the whole fetish market you can tap into, which a whole different story. You can just be a foot fetish model if you really, really want to. I mean, really...
As far as some people being afraid of their images being all over the internet, I just don't really get that. Unless you are some kind of aspiring celebrity or politician or something heavily in mainstream media, who really cares? I don't mean this in a mean/bitchy way, but there are like tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of naked people on the internet. What makes you so special that you think people are going to just plaster you all over the internet? I'm not saying "you" referring to any particular person. I mean that in a general sense, btw. Any random girl will just drown in a sea of thousands of other girls on webcam, and you can even block locations from viewing your cam feed. Everybody is doing this shit. Seriously. All that is just really *extra* to me, but that's just my $.02.
I agree! I don't have to do anything I want to and any site that tells you do...run the other way.
Also another point about the taking of pictures thing... sleazeballs have taken pics of regular girls off of facebook and photoshoped cum on their face for their disgusting website. So in reality, anyone can take your pic off the internet, naked or not, and do what they want with it.
I prefer camming! The site I work on offers daily pay and benefits and it took me 3 yrs to find one so great. Also, I danced 3 yrs and I hated having to pay fines, men trying to touch, having bosses and its riskier me dancing in my hometown. On cam, I can block my state and can use a stage name and such so that helps protect my privacy. Dancing I can just use a stage name, have to drive and spend gas, get there on time, and work ina smoky bar. Camming works best for me and espeically is more conveient not that I'm in school.
I have done both, and far prefer webcam to live dancing. However, getting involved in webcam at any level also involves the following ...
- an official gov't record ( via section 2257 compliance files ) that you have been an 'adult industry performer'
- a 100% official documentation of your webcam income ( via webcam host 1099 issuance to federal and state income tax authorities )
- the potential for pics, screen caps, and/or video of your 'performances' to show up in totally unrelated websites / media outlets without your knowledge or permission - both now and in the future.
Obviously these 'side effects' of webcam can be good, bad or indifferent depending on your own individual situation, both now and in the future.
Cam site with benefits?? Do you mind sharing which one that is??
Ive been camming for a few weeks now only on indy sites and I LOVE it!!! Money is GREAT and steady... Having my fiance work shift work and being home some days and nosy friends/family is my only problem...Id like to work during the day everyday but thats kinda impossible with my sitatuion... Gotta come up with a reason I am always locked up in the back room.. Or when I come out to visit I am all dolled up, face full of dramatic makeup.. UGH.. anyways, when I can put in enough hours to justify not dancing anymore then Im not gonna dance anymore!:D
just a small reminder about the 'great' money available from camming. 100% of this income is going to be reported to the IRS and your state tax agency. 0% of this income is going to be automatically withheld for payment of estimated taxes. Thus a significant amount of the 'great' money being paid out by webcam hosts doesn't really belong to the webcam girl ...
- regardless of total annual income level, 15.3% of whatever is earned from camming will have to go towards Social Security / medicare tax ( a.k.a. self-employment tax)
- on top of this 15%, depending on your total annual earnings, somewhere between 10% and 30% of whatever is earned from camming will have to go towards federal income tax.
- on top of both of these, depending on your state of residence, anywhere from 0% to 8% of whatever is earned from camming will have to go towards state income tax.
Payment of estimated taxes is due quarterly ... with the due date for taxes on money earned from April 1st to June 1st being due tomorrow ( June 15th ). The amount due is probably equal to anywhere between 20% and 40% of your April through June webcam earnings, depending on your expected amount of total 2010 income, your tax filing status, and other personal variables.
Because of the fact that the webcam host will issue a 1099 for your webcam earnings next February, there is absolutely no way that the IRS or your state tax agency is going to 'overlook' non-payment of taxes on your webcam earnings.
Yes Hilary, a site with daily pay and benefits too??!! Please do share???I'd love to know what site this is?