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Are you offended at OTC question?
I usually work 70 hrs weeks 3 to 4 months at a time.I will then take a week off and go to my favorite club where there is one dancer that i will
hang with and drop 3 to 4 grand over 3 or 4 nites.I would love to have a
personal relationship with her, but who will put up with my work schedule.
She says she enjoys hanging out with me, but when i'm not at club she will not spend 5 or 10 minutes talking to me on the phone every few months, and has recently went from responding to my texts immediately to not responding at all or waiting a week to respond.I don't text her until
i'm ready to come to town and then during the week i'm in town i'll text to
thank her or to make sure she plans on working. Now i realize that she is only intersted in the money and not me.Being the PL that i am i fine with this,because its what i expected when i first starting going to the club.The more time i spent with her and realized what a truly awesome and beautiful person she was i lost site of the fact that she was a stripper
and only putting up with me for the money.If you had a customer that
offered to spend a $1,000 to $1,500 on you if you went to his hotel for
3 or 4 hrs 3 or 4 times a week every 3 to 4 months.Would you be offended
that he would think of you this way and would stop hanging out with him
because you thought he was a creep.Or would you explain to him that its
not for you, and that it wouldn't change your opinion of him as long as he
continued to spend money on you in the club.Please advise!Thanks!;)
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Re: Are you offended at OTC question?
Do you really need advice on this? Or are you a masochist that likes to get flamed online by strippers?
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It depends on what you want to do in the hotel. Obviously if it was a sexual thing, I would be turned off and politely tell you I don't do that. I've had more than my fair share of guys asking to see me otc. However, if it was a situation where you booked me to dance for you, then that is another situation entirely. In the case of the guys who wanted to sleep with me, I told them that was never going to happen but if they wanted to enjoy my time it would be in the club. The times I met a customer OTC outside of bachelor parties were guys I was interested in (happened once and I love him) and I would never expect money.
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Dancing is her job. It is how she makes a living, and you are probably one of her best clients. So I am sure she enjoys the time she spends with you inside the club. But work is work. You enjoy your time off work by hanging out with her at the strip club. I bet she would prefer to spend her time off work NOT hanging out with customers. Who wants to work off the clock? Dancers are asked out by the majority of the men we dance for, and it starts to get annoying after a while. I understand why they do it, but it's still annoying. All we wanna do is put our time in at the club and go home and lead a normal life outside of work that has nothing to do with the club or people we meet there. Some dancers will do OTC if the price is right. But we'd rather you just enjoy the strip club for what it is.
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Wait a minute, so she's such an awesome and beautiful person that you're willing to invite her up to your hotel room so you can pay her for sex?
Wow. Just, wow.
If you want to sleep with her and you're willing to pay for it, fine, but don't do it under the guise of "you're such a beautiful person!" that's scuzzy and lame.
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My impression is an average dancer made $1000-1500 per week fairly easily before the economy went bad. But dancers generally want you to think they are making good money so you will tip well in order to get their attention. There are some that make less, and some that make much, much more.
Escorts typically charge $250-600/hour (but often with good disconts for multiple hours). There are a lot of exceptions, but typically escorts are not very good company. Most of their customers are not interested in their company.
I can understand why dancers get annoyed with customers who badger them for OTC contact. Of course, a lot of guys do that with every woman they find attractive. On the other hand, a lot of dancers will heap false praise on a regular or prospective regular. They should be prepared to politely brush off the guy if he asks them out. Just because you think a guy is a PL, that doesn't mean he should assume every woman in the world thinks he's a PL, and any woman who praises him must be faking it.
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Hey baby, you're such a great person. I'm really falling for you. How much to suck my dick?
Yeah, that'll go over real, real well. You clearly don't think much of her at all.
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if you are paying her that much to hang out with her or have private dances as you would in a champagne room, i dont think you are out of line per say... however, from her end there are many safety concerns. If i was her, and you were not asking for sex and offered this for 3-4 hours of private dances, if i had a proper way to do security i would be ok with it.
however, if you are asking her for sex in the hotel room? Well, unless she has offered you extras in the club, she will probably be offended as she is a dancer, not a prostitute.
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Why don't you just hire an escort?
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:-[You know i do think she is a wonderful person and very much enjoy hanging out with her.At one point i thought she was interested in me,and
there might be a chance for something serious.She has proven by her
behavior that i'm just a source of income for her.Many of your replys say
that you would never date a custy so that by my walking into a stripclub
and spending money i go from being a decent human being to a stalker,pervert,predator or a pyschopath.Yet at the same time you want
respect and to be treated as a human being even though about 90 percent of you hesitate in telling strangers what you do for a living due to
way your profession is looked upon by society.If she will not give me an opportunity to show her how great a person i am and there will never be
anything more than me dropping loads of cash on her, then whats wrong
with giving her an opportunity to make some extra money between 2 consenting adults.can i really look any more contemptable or pathectic in
her eyes than it seems many of you feel towards customers already.
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^.^ i think you need to take a look at the "club rules" on the blue side...seriously.
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Originally Posted by
brotherhood
:-[You know i do think she is a wonderful person and very much enjoy hanging out with her.At one point i thought she was interested in me,and
there might be a chance for something serious.She has proven by her
behavior that i'm just a source of income for her.Many of your replys say
that you would never date a custy so that by my walking into a stripclub
and spending money i go from being a decent human being to a stalker,pervert,predator or a pyschopath.Yet at the same time you want
respect and to be treated as a human being even though about 90 percent of you hesitate in telling strangers what you do for a living due to
way your profession is looked upon by society.If she will not give me an opportunity to show her how great a person i am and there will never be
anything more than me dropping loads of cash on her, then whats wrong
with giving her an opportunity to make some extra money between 2 consenting adults.can i really look any more contemptable or pathectic in
her eyes than it seems many of you feel towards customers already.
If you are truly interesting in dating her, then offering her money will offend her. If you are offering her money for sex, that will also probably offend her as well. That is assuming she's clean. If you are interested in dating her, then put no money offer on the table.
Let me give you my example. I love a former customer and hope I marry him. Is this the only time it happened to me? Yes, though I have been asked out by most of my customers. How it started is we started hanging out in the club (by hanging out I mean he paid money to massage my feet. He's a foot fetishist and I love foot massages). After awhile (he came often to the club and was a regular) we started to really get to know each other. He asked me out but at the time I didn't feel it was right (I was getting out of a relationship and didn't want to mix business with pleasure) When I quit the club abruptly, I asked my roommate to ask him over (he was the guy all the dancers know). He came over, we started going out as friends (though he wanted more I was scared), we lost contact, reconnected, have our ups and downs (he's dealing with issues) and hopefully eventually we will be together forever and start a family. Notice anything missing? Yep, he never offered me money and I wouldn't accept. Oh sure, he paid when we went to restaurants and the show, but that was him being a gentlemen (and I have offered to pay and probably have as well). We also haven't slept together yet and he will not offer money, nor would I accept because we love each other.
Why him and not the other guys who asked me out? Because most of them were strictly customers and most thought of me as a hot dancer. A few offered me money, and I knew to them I would never be more than a dancer. Once you offer me you never become boyfriend material.
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Stripper Hacks
Why don't you just hire an escort?
I was gonna say the same thing but I'm getting the impression that this guy is looking for an instant relationship, at his convenience, with a dancer that he already knows. Too bad, for that kind of money there are plenty of pros out there who would gladly rock his world and go away quietly until the next time he calls. No muss, no fuss and no danger of pissing the lady off by asking for something that she is probably not willing to do.
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Why degrade yourself to pay for sex(or in your case a relationship)? And your calling yourself a PL? Dont you think you deserve something better? Save your $$ and try a dating site or getting out into the real world. You dont know the real her, only the illusion she puts on for you. The stripclub is for entertainment not a pickup place. If a guy offered me $$ for sex in the club, I lose respect for him.
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just for the record, i didn't see anybody call you a pervert or loser or psychopath or whatever for going to a stripclub and getting dances. they said that they'd be offended if a customer offered them money for sex, because they are strippers not prostitutes. if you see going to a strip club in black and white like that, you have issues. a customer doesn't become less of a person for going to a strip club. however, it's a strip club. you are paying for company and lapdances from girls who are (hopefully) not bitching about their cramps or asking you to take out the trash. to pay a stripper is not perverted. to ask a stripper to go to your hotel room to have sex is also not all that perverted (well, i don't think it is anyways). it is rude and disrespectful, though. and most strippers won't appreciate being asked.
if a stripper does otc and is interested in doing otc with you, she will ask. you don't need to ask her.
and for chrissake, if you do ask, at least have the decency to offer more money than she's making off you in the safety of the club, without having sex. at least double the offer. anything less than that just makes you look stupid.
it would be better not to ask at all.
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All that's left for you to do now is ask the girl out. She knows you aren't cheap and you've shown you like her. Either she likes you or your money more. After buying 3-4 grand worth of LDs from her she already knows you as well as she could after a night of sex in a hotel room. Offering to pay her for that will only offend her and make you look like a creep. She's a stripper, not a prostitute.
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I personally would not be offended. It takes a lot to offend me. Im actually more offended if a customer thinks he could see me OTC for free. I would be worried however because I would see it as you getting bored of me and the potential of losing you as a customer (since my answer would definitely be no if you were expecting anything above and beyond what happens in the club). I think she will say no, but I always say "you dont ask, you dont get".
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Yeah I wouldn't call it offensive because I'm so used to being asked. What offends me is offering me a whole hundred dollars, (or 60 i've gotten that offer a few times too), to go OTC. The anwser is always no no matter what, but geez at least name a price that isn't streetwalker rates!! Lol!
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^I know like when guys are like "Ill pay you $200" Im thinking... you just booked me for an hour to stand here on a stage and dance with no contact for $360... huh???
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Athenathefabulous
however, if you are asking her for sex in the hotel room? Well, unless she has offered you extras in the club, she will probably be offended as she is a dancer, not a prostitute.
I think this is the best idea. See what her limits are in the club, first. If she offers lots of extras or FS in the VIP room, then, you might suggest (after being her regular for several months) meeting in a more comfortable and private location. However, expect to pay a lot more money and plan on buying her expensive gifts.
On the other hand, if she doesn't "play" in the SC, she will certainly be insulted by your OTC offer.
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SteveSmith
That made me jump! lmao
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Jessie_tinydancer
^I know like when guys are like "Ill pay you $200" Im thinking... you just booked me for an hour to stand here on a stage and dance with no contact for $360... huh???
Yeah, this is the part I don't get either. Of course it works both ways. There are dancers who, if they do decide to give it up OTC try to get way above market value...and get it! There are a lot of guys who go asking for sex in strip clubs that don't know anything about escorts or how to go about hiring one. They also don't realize that the going rate for an hour with an escort is about the same as an hour in VIP trying to convince a girl to do something that she has no intention of doing...
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My suggestion would be to go to the club spend your hard earned money on the favorite dancer of your choice and enjoy the experience for what it really is all about, "dances and drinks". If the lady is interested in OTC activities with you, she will let you know. Have fun.