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I suspect the reason that you're not getting any responses is that 'New York' clubs span a very wide range of different customer bases ... a very wide range of dancer 'calibres' etc. Thus providing no more information than 'I've only danced in LA clubs' is leaving everybody who is familiar with the greater NY club scene at a major loss ...
In general, Manhattan clubs are where the money is at. However, Manhattan clubs also cater to 'upscale' customers ... meaning that management can be very picky in regard to the dancers they will hire. Manhattan clubs are also typically very strict about dancer scheduling, and use a business model involving comparatively HUGE stage fees ( which guarantees that any dancer who is unable to offer major appeal to the club's 'upscale' customers will LOSE money and not return ! )
Again in general, NYC clubs outside Manhattan offer a lower earnings potential. The lower earnings potential is mostly due to these clubs catering to more 'middle class' customers ... meaning that management is somewhat less picky in regard to dancers they will hire. Clubs outside of Manhattan may also be less rigid in terms of scheduling, and employ business models with much lower stage fees ( in return for the club keeping a higher percentage of private dance / VIP sales ).
'Clubs outside Manhattan' includes the other NY boroughs ( mostly Queens ). And in reality it also includes clubs across the river in north NJ as well as clubs on Long Island.
you're asking for info on living in new york? you've visited before, yes? what specifically did you want to know?
i would wait until you get accepted to a school before you pick a borough and neighborhood. if you're looking at columbia, uptown and the bronx would be much more convenient commuting from the flatlands.
it also depends on what you're looking for in a neighborhood. i met up with a SWer in jersey and she lives in the cutest neighborhood, but demographically, i couldn't do it.
the nicer clubs are in the city, but some of clubs in the other boroughs are decent if you are not into gown clubs. there have been dozens of ny threads in club chat. but i really wouldn't worry about that until you move.
i also know some dancers who would go upstate and into ct to work and they seemed happy doing that.
i don't know what the rules for grad students are but i know that sometimes the courses are at night, and i don't know how clubs work around school schedules, especially if you are in a very rigorous grad program. so that is something to consider when budgeting, that you'll be able to stay afloat if you have to go periods of time without working. in which case, you may need to consider a roommate.
ny weather does whatever the fuck it wants. so you'll need rainboots, snowboots, wedges, a heavy winter coat, a dressy winter coat, a windbreaker, a light fall trench, perhaps a parka if you aren't into umbrellas.
For $1,400-15(being the cheapest) you can get a studio(which is a small shack with tiny closet), not a one bedroom apt.
...Damn
I'd have to work harder...
For me , Moving to a bigger city would mean a hellofalot of money in my line of work but Damn that amount of money being spent on rent, I just can't wrap my mind around it.
I was going to move here but $1700 a month for a 2bd I dunnno maybe in three years.. not now. I don't think i want that kind of burden. You never know what could happen being in this line of work.
I'm in the process of moving to nyc right now, I'll let ya know how it goes and what issues I run into lol! I'll be settled there within a month *so excited*
I had a friend who had to have 5 roommates...5 I'm not kidding... just to be able to afford the rent in NYC! $2900. a month... it was off of Madison ave right in the garment district...and this was back in the late 90's 3 bedroom and the kicker she didn't even have a bedroom, she had a loft, so she had NO privacy, if she wanted to bring a dude home and fuck, it was in the loft overlooking the kitchen!
I've been to NY dozens of times...love to visit but would NEVER live there...that's my 2 cents...oh and btw make sure you bring/buy plenty of winter gear, i.e. winter coats, hats, gloves, scarves, boots, big differences in fashion too from L.A.
In 2000, I lived in L.A. (Burbank and Pasadena) too and NYC is waayyy more expensive to live than in LA.
Good Luck!
This is about what I pay for my studio near Madison sq park. Honestly, it's tiny but I think it's worth it not to have to share. I can't stand roommates & when I study I need a quiet place. I've alsolived in queens I had a huge 1 bedroom but I didn't like traveling to Manhattan twice a day for work & school.
I'm totally excited too!!! I haven't told many people IRL about it because I'm always paranoid about telling people about things and then something fucks it up. But I'm so fucking excited!! ;D
I'm in the South right now and I've always wanted to live in NYC, I'm used to roomies so I might go that route at least initially. I have a "regular" job that I'm moving there for, but once I get set up and settled I definitely want to find a club to dance at too, get those student loans paid off! I'm not sure if I want a big Manhattan club where I might run into colleagues, or if that would be a big enough risk to make me head to a smaller club in the boroughs. Right now I'm looking at Brooklyn or Queens for apartments, I'd love Manhattan but its just not happening $$$-wise right now. I'm going up there to look at some apartments on the 14th for a few days *woot*
NYU is a really good school, I have a friend there just now. I bet ya can't wait for January! ;D
i understand, but like i said, depending on the school you decide on, it'll affect your commute. greenwich is really accessible from brooklyn if you are going to nyu. riverside is closer to the bronx if you are going to columbia. so there are a lot of things that will affect your decision, especially if you are studying something very rigorous that will require you to be at you school until late, and you don't want a 90 minute commute home (because the trains run slower at night).
i really don't know where you could live in manhattan for 12-1500/mo + utilities, but it's probably going to be SMALL. but i suppose if you're super busy with school and won't be entertaining at home, that doesn't really matter.
finding an apartment in ny is kind of hell on earth without a broker, and even brokers are pains in the ass, so student housing may not be the worst thing in the world, you know? but you typically need 1st and last month's rent and a security deposit. so if you find a place for $1500/mo, you will need the broker fee, the application fee, and the $4500 to move in.
the clubs are topless. i think there might be nude clubs outside of the city, but i really don't know. i don't know how i would rate the contact levels at this point. to me, it seems like contact levels are high everywhere now, so.
anyway, good luck, and congratulations on your degree
I used to live in NYC and moved to LA. No 1 bedrooms and barely any studios in Manhattan for that price. I used to have a 1 bedroom railroad in Williamsburg for $1400. You can still find deals in Brooklyn. I lived on the Graham Ave stop of the L train. It's a really nice area. You can find some stuff between Lorimer and Metropolitan. I wouldn't really move too much further out than that because taxi's would be really expensive coming home from the club at night. Every apartment I had in NYC I found on craigslist. It's do-able. Don't waste money on a broker unless you need something before you get there. There were some cheap places in Bushwick but the area's a little sketchy. You can try Spanish Harlem if you want to stay in Manhattan. Certain areas are ok and others are not so okay. But cabs home would be a lot cheaper.
I'm just gonna give you a brief run-down in regards to your questions.
Real estate: check out craigslist for a snap-shot of rent price reality. Consider living in some of the other boroughs or the Lower East Side of manhattan... Jersey should be up for consideration as well since Hoboken and surrounding areas are very close to NYC.
Clubs : There are 18 of them in Manhattan (last time I counted).
Weather: It's hot right now.
People: There are a lot.
Shopping: http://www.amazon.com/2010-York-City...1&sr=1-3-fkmr0
you dont HAVE to live in the city..I have several friends who go to Barnard, Colombia, Baruch, and while some dorm others live in Brooklyn or Queens and take a train (30 to 50 min depending on how far they are). I guess it depends on whether you'd be willing to spend more time commuting or more money.
you can definitely find a one bedroom for 1200-1500. look in harlem and washington heights on craigslist--especially if columbia is your grad school.
^^^ That makes sense :)
Living in NYC is mega expensive. My girl just got a tiny studio for $1400 on 82st/2ave. If you want to save money, find a roommate in a cheap location, preferably one closest to work/school and subway so you don't rack up costs in taxi's. You wont need a car when you're here, trust me. I'm 32yrs old and still don't know how to drive because I never needed to in this awesome city.
Start your way from the top clubs and on down. Go for the gown clubs with steakhouses. Big $$$$ flock to those when they're entertaining clients. Sapphire, Scores, and Penthouse are the better ones with steakhouses. Hustler and Flashdancers don't have steakhouses but you should do fairly well still. The minor clubs in the city I would say are Lace and NY Dolls. Be prep'd to pay high house fees and tip outs, sometimes ranging into the $200+per night. MAKE SURE YOU TAKE CARE OF THE HOSTS. They know where to point you to for big $$$.
Good luck with school and work here in the big city! :)