Will this be held against me?
I really want to dance but I also want to have an other career. After I finish college and maybe grad school I want to apply for the FBI. Will being a stripper (I assume it will show up on my records) be held against me? They practially investigate your entire life with a microscope so they would probably find out either way. This has been a dream of mine since I was little. Can anyone give me some advice? Would camming also affect my future employment in the FBI.
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hello-kitty
Working for the FBI seems like serious business, and I am almost 99% percent sure that they would find out about something like that because you are working for the government, and most government jobs don't fuck around.
If I were you, I would avoid working in places that require a dancer's license... and when applying to clubs, if you can avoid giving out your social security. If you have a passport you can bring that to prove your citizenship.
I like stripping but I don't want to do this forever so I am super careful not to leave my tracks everywhere I go.
Do you know any places that don't require a dancer's license? I am open to any place in the U.S. except Houston (where I currently live). I want to be able to support myself in college where ever I go and have an apartment. That's why I was thinking about camming if stripping doesn't provide enough. I am super excited though. I really can't wait. Where would you start out if you were me?
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Camming leaves a trail, more then dancing. Don't know if you really want to go that route if you're aspiring to a govt job.
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alexa111
Camming leaves a trail, more then dancing. Don't know if you really want to go that route if you're aspiring to a govt job.
:( Oh well I guess. It seemed fun.
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hello-kitty
Tons of places don't require a dancer's license...
Places I would avoid would be some of Dallas, some of arizona, San diego... and several other places.
I live in Los Angeles, and there is no dancer license needed here, but I don't recommend coming here to dance, especially as a beginner. Maybe a more experienced contact dancer could bank here but I would not suggest it.
The best way to find out if a club requires a license is to just call and ask.
What states were you considering moving to?
Any state really. New York,Massachusetts,New Jersey,Rhode Island etc. It doesn't really matter as long as they have good universities.
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lulubelle
:( Oh well I guess. It seemed fun.
Didn't mean to burst your bubble :) Camming is lots of fun, but it def wouldn't be hard for the FBI to find out about. It's way less anonyomous then dancing. Good luck with that though! There's lots of clubs that don't need a license.
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hello-kitty
Living in texas is so cheap and the strip club scene is pretty good... AND your also a state resident meaning you would be paying the in-state tuition fee as oppose to the more expensive out of state fee...
I wonder why you want to leave??
If I were you... I would totally stay put... maybe not Houston, but try dallas... I know some clubs in Dallas require license... but you always have Forts Worth... or San Antonio...
I've lived here all my life and I just want to get out...and stay out. There's to many people holding me back here so the farther away the better.
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alexa111
Didn't mean to burst your bubble :) Camming is lots of fun, but it def wouldn't be hard for the FBI to find out about. It's way less anonymous then dancing. Good luck with that though! There's lots of clubs that don't need a license.
Thanks for your advice. I'm glad I didn't start camming. I imagine that would be sort of difficult to describe in a job interview. :)
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When my dad applied for CHP (California's State Police) they asked if he drank and stuff which he doesnt and when an investigator came over to interview him she even went through the fridge and pantry. FBI will check everything and interview everyone you ever knew because your job involves Security clearances so yes it will affect it. Which sucks.
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Not only do they do background checks, they do polygraph testing as well. For instance, if you have smoked pot more than 5 times in your life, don't even bother. If you have smoked it in the last 5 years, don't bother. If you have a family membor who has been arrested in drug rings, don't bother.
You have to be squeeky clean to get in. If you have a doubt, don't.
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You also have to go to a specific school to get trained in it, and even then there is no guarantees...Have you looked into the school? Oh, btw, you have to have a college degree before you go to the school....
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austin doesn't require a liscense, and its not too far form where you live.
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the FBI also has access to IRS records for job applicants where security clearances are involved ... meaning that if you wind up reporting 1099 income from a club with a recognizable name / a webcam host with a recognizable name etc. that your 'secret' will be outed.
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I actually have relevant experience here, but you'll have to take it with a grain of salt since I'm based in Canada and not the US.
When organizations--be it the government or private business--perform background checks for security clearances, their primary concerns are illegal activities (ie. dealing drugs, major crimes), loyalty issues (ie. does your family have ties to biker gangs or terrorist organizations), "secrets" that leave you open to blackmail, and reliability.
What does this mean? Do not lie. Do not omit.
In my experience, the government really couldn't have cared less that I used to be a stripper. Apparently I wasn't even the first former stripper the guy had interviewed. Honestly, they've really heard it all. (Actually, I take that back. His jaw hit the table when I started talking about BDSM. Anyway, I digress...)
Because I was honest and upfront about it--heck, I even supplied a reference who could confirm my stint as a dancer--it proved to be absolutely no obstacle for me. I'm quite certain they would not have been so blase about it had I tried to hide it. They have absolutely no tolerance for deception when doing background checks, and they WILL find these things out.
That being said, if you do decide to walk this path for a while, I have two suggestions for you.
First, I would strongly recommend dancing over camming. Why? There's a much higher risk of picture and video evidence surviving with camming. It's one thing to not hide your past; it's another to have it come back to haunt you.
Second, pay your taxes. They will absolutely inspect your employment and tax records. If things don't jive, it will reflect poorly on you. Integrity is everything to these organizations.
Good luck.
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I was thinking that too... hell stripping isn't illegal
And it isn't the worst thing you can do.. I dont think
It would affect you honestly.. but who am i
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Ok - I'm in a different country but, just to give you another perspective...
Whilst it may not be illegal to dance, many clubs and club owners have ties to illicit goings on, as well as being seen as 'immoral' by people in positions of authority, therefore government agencies tend to frown upon dancing as an employment history, the rights and wrongs of that you can debate until the cows come home but there it is.
It's why i never danced anywhere that required my personal information, meaning i've always danced at smaller divey clubs rather than the big chains and would never cam. Those pics and videos aren't going to help your government career.
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If you want to work for the fbi avoid the sex industry all together. I have a crim.jus. bachelors. They will even interview your neighbors in addition to polygraphs.
I know a man who was turned down, and they mentioned and asked about his relationship with a stripper!!!
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Yeah .... I don't know. Maybe bartend instead in a regular club ? You'll probably make a couple hundred less a shift than dancing but it's still money AND it'll pose no risk to a job that you could make MORE money at for your whole life ( if you love it ) until you retire. I'd think on it carefully OR take a dancer trip somewhere and just work a weekend to get it out of your system ( the odds of a club filing paperwork for once weekend especially if they don't require a license are super slim ).
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This is something I did not think about until I read this post.
It's very true that everything you do on the internet leaves a trail. Don't do cams if this is what you want. I went to college for computer forensics and if you pass the background check the internet will be next. Make sure you enter your information into sites where you can cancel your profile/account.
I know dancers that paid their way through school dancing. I am not sure if it affected their career down the line.
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lulubelle
Thanks for your advice. I'm glad I didn't start camming. I imagine that would be sort of difficult to describe in a job interview. :)
If your serious about wanting to work in the FBI at some point in your future then don't enter the adult industry. Get a normal 9-5 somewhere, do an interneship, volunteer whatever. There are other ways to put yourself through school without dancing. You can even try bartending or waitressing.
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This is something I did not think about until I read this post.
It's very true that everything you do on the internet leaves a trail. Don't do cams if this is what you want. I went to college for computer forensics and if you pass the background check the internet will be next. Make sure you enter your information into sites where you can cancel your profile/account.
I would point out that, these days, virtually ANYTHING that gets posted on the internet can never be completely removed. For example, at one point I did some webcam with I-Friends as the hosting service. Despite the fact that I completely severed ties and deleted my profile / account some 3-4 years ago, you can still find ...
http://www.boobsroom.com/ifriends/m/1857_12.jpg
... needless to say, I have no chance in hell of ever being hired for a job involving the 'public trust' because this stuff ( in this case a pic automatically snipped from one of my private webcam video streams and used for promo pages without my knowledge or direct consent ) - winds up hanging around the internet forever for any prospective employer's background check, for any family court / gov't agency investigator, etc. to 'stumble accross'.
The basic points of this thread are ...
- that prospective 'straight job' employers are becoming increasingly selective and thorough in the screening of job applicants, and with so many applicants for every job opening those prospective employers can afford to reject applicants with anything 'negative' in their background.
- that prospective 'public trust' job employers, i.e. the gov't, school systems, hospitals, banks or any job that involves other people's bodies, other people's money, and especially other people's children, are pretty much mandated to reject applicants with a 'sex industry' background. And like it or not, these days exotic dancing and webcam work are considered to be part of the 'sex industry'.
- that working as a webcam girl will virtually guarantee a publicly accessible and direct record being created of that fact
- that working as an exotic dancer will increasingly result in the creation of public records of that fact ... via dancer's licenses, via 1099 income reports, via bogus busts, via strip club promo web pages etc.
Thus any girls who are investing a whole lot of time and money to prepare themselves for a future career involving the 'public trust' may want to think twice about working in any aspect of the 'sex industry'.
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