Overcharging-- what are your best tips.
so at my most recent club, the system is 10$ dances and then there are 20$ 'champagne room' dances but the customer has to pay a 20$ fee. well the service at the club is slow and i dont have any particular loyalty to the club, so ive just been overcharging for the regular dances. im not very good at this though since i have never done it.
i am basically the only blonde girl there.
if the customer is from out of town its easy, they dont know any better. but if they have been there before it gets trickier. ive been saying things like "well im used to dancing in dallas, so dances are 20$ there and i only do 20$ dances" and if the customer still balks i will do a 10$ dance but it will be a pretty lame dance. also for regulars, if they try to touch me, i will be like "well thats a champagne room dance, which i will do out here, but im charging champagne room prices" (touching does not appear to be enforced in either the champagne room or regular dances). Or sometimes i will offer a discount, 2 for 30$, 3 for 45$ etc depending on my mood and how much i suspect the customer has.
also im not looking for any sort of moral lecture on overcharging. im used to 20$ a dance and i think im at least 2x as hot as most of the girls there, so why should i not be charging double?
so how do you girls go about overcharging? im still new to the whole thing and i want to get better at it.
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My lap dances are $15. My really sexy lap dances are $20.
Use " my " to provide honesty. Those are your prices. Let the other girls charge their prices. That what I do, but I want more lines to use too, so I'll watch the thread.
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I don't overcharge... I up-sell. Obviously I know what you are referring to though & you know most of my opinions on this.
First off, you can't change ignorance. Basically, in that club girls are doing extras. A table dance ($5) is not the same as a lap dance - they don't seem to realize that though. The easy solution to this is to explain the differences between the types of dances. Then offer basic lap dances in the back for $10 or more intimate dances for $20. $20 isn't that high on the national average... so most won't say anything. When you do the basic lap dances though don't do so much work.... don't grind, don't get in so close - keep it basic. Heck, for a basic dance you can even keep on the bottom of your skirt or booty shorts & say those only come off for $20 dances.
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^agreed
If they say they're only paying $10 for a dance I'd just kinda make a face and let them know it's only gonna be a topless and/or air dance, if they want to get a good raunchy show it's $20. You know you're worth it, make sure they know that too.
Or as an alternative say they have to get a minimum of 2 dances to make it worth your time, up that to 3 or 4 if it's a busy night.
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I guess my thing is that girls are actually undercutting themselves by not knowing the difference between terms.
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at my last club 15 min private shows were 80, 110 for 20 min.
you could either say theyre getting a 20 min show for 80 instead of 110 and finish the show in the normal 15 min [usually they have no idea anyway]
or
charge 110 and on the way to taking money up to manager take 30 out of it and say its for a 15 min dance and keep the rest as a tip.
i didnt feel good about myself having done it several times so i only resorted to it when the guys were complete assholes while wasting a good chunk of my time or work has been painfully slow and i urgently have to pay for things like rent bills food etc.
they seemed to like the 'since its your first time ill cut you a deal...im doing this for you only coz youre cute and id like you in there longer' etc
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If they have been to the club before, then it is def. more difficult to charge more. But what you can try and do is sell yourself to them, to make them believe you are worth spending more on. The whole "Im from outta town, Im blond, I am the best dancer, I have tons of experience at this, I know just what you want/need, etc etc". If they balk again, cut 'em a deal like you have been, but let them know that they get what they pay for. They pay for a $10 dance, they get the basic dance, they pay more, they will recieve a more pleasurable experience. I will never tell a custy that if they only pay $10 they will get a lame/crappy/tame dance. I just say basic or better/sexier/more fun etc. I will also sometimes keep bottoms on, whatever I wear over the thong, until they "upgrade" their dance or agree to a certain number of dances.
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i worked recently at a club that also had the 20 and 30 differntiations, and once i got up to the danceroom i said " its 20 for a regular dance, and 30 for where the bouncer cant see us. trust me you want that one" and just started walking to the $30 assuming the sale. Noone stopped me and asked for the cheap dance.- just assume they want the expensive one, and you'll project it
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saphire123456
i worked recently at a club that also had the 20 and 30 differntiations, and once i got up to the danceroom i said " its 20 for a regular dance, and 30 for where the bouncer cant see us. trust me you want that one" and just started walking to the $30 assuming the sale. Noone stopped me and asked for the cheap dance.- just assume they want the expensive one, and you'll project it
Ooh I like that! I have the same thing at my club, only for the $30 is our "VIP" but the club takes 30 for the day, so usually I'll tell the guys its $60 for the first dance, then $30 after that..I dont want to eat the $30 fee in case a guy only gets 1 dance, i'm losing that entire dance for nothing. There a better way of putting it so I dont get stiffed? /:O
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yeah, it was the regular vs, Vip at my club too...i just make it sound more attractive by mentioning the bouncer part. In your case I might try the 2 for $60- cause to guys it sounds like a better deal. and this way you're guaranteeing yourself that $30
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saphire123456
yeah, it was the regular vs, Vip at my club too...i just make it sound more attractive by mentioning the bouncer part. In your case I might try the 2 for $60- cause to guys it sounds like a better deal. and this way you're guaranteeing yourself that $30
Very true! I tried the "privates only 30 and you DEFINITELY want that one.." and it worked. But there was like..no one in the club today, but I did as best as I could for the crap that came in. I'll try the 2 for $60!
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sunshine16
Ooh I like that! I have the same thing at my club, only for the $30 is our "VIP" but the club takes 30 for the day, so usually I'll tell the guys its $60 for the first dance, then $30 after that..I dont want to eat the $30 fee in case a guy only gets 1 dance, i'm losing that entire dance for nothing. There a better way of putting it so I dont get stiffed? /:O
That's the perfect way of putting because let's be honest, if this were any other product you were selling you would be passing on the cost of production to the consumer. You are simply passing on the higher costs of production. Actually, most businesses charge more when there is less output or on earliest returns so you are simply doing your duty as a responsible businesswoman!
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ChicagotoTampa
That's the perfect way of putting because let's be honest, if this were any other product you were selling you would be passing on the cost of production to the consumer. You are simply passing on the higher costs of production. Actually, most businesses charge more when there is less output or on earliest returns so you are simply doing your duty as a responsible businesswoman!
Yes, but guys get all pissed off "60$ for a dance?? whats better about it" blah blah..but if i say 20 for the regular, and 30 for the good one where no one can watch us..its easier..i just dont know how to slip in to add in the extra $30 so i dont lose out. Maybe like well 30per song, and 30 for the room" or 1 time fee of 30 for the room and 30 per dance?
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You are selling you, not really a dance. They are going to be buying your time. And they should know that. If they wanted just a dance it wouldn't matter who they got it from. But you need to show them why you are the best choice there. :)
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I up-sell now rather than overcharge because I seem to make more money that way.
However, I use to overcharge for lapdances at clubs with no VIP options. I'd charge $30-$40 instead of $20 by saying that I will give them a $20 dance but I'll give an EVEN BETTER $40 dance. Most guys are stupid and will go for the $40 option even though the two dances are exactly the same.
That or I restrict touching. For $20 you have to have your hands to the side but for $40 you can touch (nothing sexual).
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I cannot remember that last time I did a $20 or $30 dance.
I have never not done an up sale.
Why would you not be charging the most that you can in the champagne room?
Can you charge $30 to $50?
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^^^ I don't think she's referring to the champagne room, just the regular lap dances.
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Kylea2
^^^ I don't think she's referring to the champagne room, just the regular lap dances.
Yes. We have couch dances $20, and then a little private room $30, but to use the private room we owe the club $30 for the day..so I dont want to chance losing that money.
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I think someone already mentioned this, I would do the "a regular show is $x" but you definitely want the "deluxe show for $X". The club I used to do this at had a 3 song show, so if they said no Id say "well how about I do the first song deluxe for $x and then if you like it well continue with all 3, if not I'll do a regular one but Im sure you'll want the deluxe".
"Regular" was my lazy show.
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^I did that yesterday, "the regular is 20, but u want the good dance for 30" etc, so I got the "well what do i get, whys it better," blah blah blah...ugghh. I said "i cant explain just have to show you" :bat eyelashes: ..eh..ugh