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Independent CamGirl Listing site. What would make it Perfect?
I'm looking for ideas because I suggested it to a friend who can program, and there was a great deal of interest. So, how would YOU run a site? Or even better, as a camgirl, what would make the perfect site for you to advertise yourself and get shows on Yahoo/MSN/SKype and yet still offers a decent living for the person who runs the site? I really want to goose this person and see if I can get us a site written.
So fantasize away on your perfect Indy Webcam Site.
B
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all I can tell you that I look for in indy sites is: high payout (70% or more), good traffic, weekly payout by different methods of my choosing, and a nice look to the site.
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Yes, but I was talking more along the lines of getting us a TRUE indy site.
Something like....
$29 flat per month gets you a page that tells if you're online and such, and lists all your affiliations and allows web links as well. You keep ALL your pay.
Would that be something that if I push this person to design it, it would work? I'm hoping to get a cut if I can come up with something truly useful to girls and customers and the web site owner.
B
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The biggest problem and the thing that made me give up independent for the present time is all the guys who don't even have credit cards who would end up messaging me constantly trying to get freebies. Of course I blocked, but it was so irritating I ended up moving on to other sites.
Perhaps you could set it up so we could charge guys $1 to get the messenger ID? That would take care of a lot of freebie-seekers who don't even have a way to pay.
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I wouldn't pay to be listed. Sorry.
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I dont think there are any listing sites that charge
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you will have to do a free listing, and take a percentage from our earnings.
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LOL even though I have the money I also wouldn't pay to be listed on a listing site that's like paying to work and wtf is that? Please! Any listing site that charges to be listed to me is a scam. You're better off just taking a percentage out of the girl's earning or make your money marketing other sites on YOUR listing site. Just a suggestion.
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This was tried about ten years ago on an indy site filled with webcamgirls - ....it was pretty busy , a fee was introduced and everyone left :-D
Unless it's ABSOLUTELY heaving with paying traffic , it's a non starter .
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Good info guys thanks. I am a bit baffled but I will work all this into what I am trying to get done. The bafflement comes from the fact that if you make $50 a day at the site, or even $10 average per day, that comes out to $1500 @ $50 or [email protected]$10 and if they take say 20% it is costing you $60-$300 per month to be on there, whereas at $20 per month, it's a flat fee and so you pay much less.
I guess I see the illogical logic of it...I pay percentage to my promoter (who does a lot of what you guys suggest on here, but does it and more FOR me...hehehe) and I'd rather give the percentage than do it all myself even though it's mostly free stuff.
Ok, so...which indy site has your favorite layout, I mean what sort of features really rock as far as you are concerned?
B
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I see where you are gettig at OP.
however Ive been on indy sites that have shitty traffic, so im not going to pay for shows that didn't happen.
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LMAOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooo
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nIINA
LMAOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooo
Thanks for the bump...seeing it yesterday reminded me to call today and check on the project.
It seems that This will be a Listing site which will tell if the girls who take part are online or offline, and allow them a page to show a few pics and post a couple paragraphs about themselves. Then a listing of prices.
The people involved with owning and running it will commit to spending a minimum of 25% on PURELY webcam traffic. At $20 per month for a listing, and say, 50 girls listed the first month, this would be $250 in Webcam clean traffic...(35,000 hits pure cam traffic for those who don't know traffic).
Whatever shows you get, you keep all profits. The pay thusfar is independent, which is what must happen for a straight $20 per month deal. So I would assume AlertPay. They are in the middle of programming, so Ideas are still very welcome. But it looks like it will happen and I will be a principle. VERY cool stuff.
B.
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nIINA
[Stupid, space wasting, smartass, nasty graphic removed.]
Very mature. Keep it up. I'm sure good things will come to you. Because THIS is what you are supposed to be doing with your precious time in this planet. Following me around to threads that don;t concern you and being a jerk. It is plainly obvious why you are such a mentor on here.
B.
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I don't know it sounds pretty decent to me. If I can pay $20 for a whole month and have purely webcam traffic come to me, and keep 100%. I'd profit off of just one show. I would assume it would be on a month by month basis and you wouldn't have to commit to a certain number of months?
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i would assume u would also get a free trial to see how the traffic is bc though 20 is a ton to any of us, its crazy to expect ppl to sign up and pay for a NEW site that no one can vouch has good/decent traffic. how often do we see sites come through and ask us to join and talk a big game, only for not one of us to ever get a show on it
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and though its not alot of money i would still expect AMAZING traffic, for just charging even a penny, bc we can easily go get listed on a dozen other sites for free.
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The way I look at it is I'm a cam girl. I have my own site, but I don't necessarily have the means right now to buy pure webcam traffic on a regular basis to come directly to my site. Why not share the cost with someone else to have the traffic come to another central location? I think it's a cool idea. Would be awesome if it turned out to be successful.
I don't know what exactly the indy sites that are out there now do in they way of promotion, but from past disccussion it seems like this would be better. Am I right, B?
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missginger
and though its not alot of money i would still expect AMAZING traffic, for just charging even a penny, bc we can easily go get listed on a dozen other sites for free.
Please, name some sites that will tell users when you are on and off Yahoo/IMs and also gives you a full webpage to post pics and prices and so on like the Indy sites do, that doesn't charge a dime. I'd love to find some more of THOSE resources. Especially if they also have verified traffic.
If you are talking about Indy sites, they take 20% of your money or MORE.
Oh, and generally, traffic is a joke on most sites. As I said earlier, the indy sites are TERRIBLE at traffic propagation. Go look how they get their traffic, it's all evident from their links page.
This site would either give a StatCounter report to all prospective users, showing hits to the site or a Google Analytics report.
However, I believe models have a tendency to shoot themselves in the foot quite often. See, it is quite likely this site will fail. It is a great idea and could make HUGE money for models. It is a no-lose proposition. Ah, but wait...for it to be no lose, the models who are all quite cynical, would have to trust that someone who spends weeks programming a site and setting up pages and so on, and who signs a contract to spend a minimum of 25% on traffic...will do so. Since buying 100,000 hits of traffic, for a CamModel site that has NO cam-models, would be not only business suicide, but also useless and a ridiculous. This is why for this to work, the owners will need at least 50 models at $20. Which gets them the content which allows buying traffic. After reading today and thinking about this, I told them I think it should be $20 per month for those who PRE-Order a page, and everyone who comes after opening day pays $50 per month. Since by the end of the first month, the traffic would be in the 10s of thousands and worthwhile at $50...so the $20 price (forever, as long as an original sticks with the site) would be a perpetual thank you to those who signed up as first responders willing to take a chance on something.
This also has the definite positive spin of keeping the "club" somewhat exclusive and keeping the membership down to a number that allows all online models to always be on the first and second pages.
Hmm...this could work quite well I think.
A new tool for Indy girls.
B.
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I'll be one of the first to sign up!!
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So why did you ask, if you already know the answer? im curious
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I'd be interested in trying it out for a month, after I move..
Only problem is I don't know the first thing about Indy camming :(
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nIINA
So why did you ask, if you already know the answer? im curious
I don't know the answer. I took some of what was said here, some of what girls I work with have said, etc. To talk to the principles and get things implemented. Obviously, girls who prefer giving a percentage of their earnings away over a small amount for monthly service, well, I'm sorry, they just aren't thinking clearly.
In a business where we make $100 per hour+ to worry about spending $20-$40 for a couple months on a site that has high visibility is poor business sense. Especially if the owners are willing to commit in contracted form to specific measures for traffic farming. So those who would RATHER pay a percentage of their earnings, well, I'm gonna look out for them and advise differently, since the principles involved don't seem to want that anyway, and I think it is another mistake that overall, I have to look out for the several hundred performers who will be benefited by a flat-rate service as opposed to a percentage based service.
Since we handle our own pay on this service, I am working with them now to try to figure out exactly how to lower the chargeback rate. At the least, some sort of referral system. Any suggestions here would be appreciated.
What I am looking for, is that we now have a chance at a 100% cam-site (minus $20 and our OWN bank fees and such) that will have a good amount of cam-based traffic. So....
What else do you want on there if the sky is the limit??? Alot of it may NOT happen, but I have personal cell number of the two major principles, and have equal input in how this comes out. So, go head, whisper in B's ear and tell me what YOU wanna see on this site...
B.