Cam shows regulars: the how and the what
How do you handle your cam shows regulars ?
I guess at first it depends on what kind of niche you are in, so of course dommes and such do not feel the need to clarify this as it's clear as fuck for their slaves ;D
1. But my question is, how do you set your relationship with your typical cam shows regular?
a) Do you let him fall in love with the character you are playing and let him think you could meet a day (while still escaping all the direct questions and letting the magic of the "neverending first date" operate)
b) Do you rather tell him upfront that it will never ever happen ?
2. Either way, how do you handle his potential frustration when he realizes that you'll never meet ? You call it a loss and that's it ? or are you emotionally challenged ?
3. Erm I guess it leads to the question: what do you look for in a regular ? (guys who jerk off quickly and discuss a lot, guys who jerk off slowly and discuss a little, guys who discuss only, guys who jerk off only... etc.)
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You need to keep your conversations with regulars to a minimum. DO NOT allow customers to get inside your head and if you are asking this question in this forum that means that a customer has already gotten to you. This business is all mental to the models and sexual to the customers so DO NOT let any member make you think its anything more than sexual because its not! Unless you are an active escort who wishes to meet your cam customers offline, then you need to keep the conversations strictly playful and let the customer know up front that you are online for entertainment purposes only. Let him know that he needs to get to know you ''better'' and really be consistent with you, which means getting more cam shows, before you wish to see him offline.(That is decode for ''I need to make alot of money off you asshole before you ditch me for another cam girl''! This is all fake talk but its enough to keep making money off of him until he can no longer take it and find some other model that will suit his needs. DO NOT let these online fuckheads intimidate you with their mental antics. Twist that shit around, stay in his head, in his wallet, and keep some mystery about yourself and refrain from revealing so much info about yourself. You need to always be making ALOT of money off of emotional customers that are obsessed with you and any emo customer worth your time is NOT going to ask you to take your clothes off or make you work hard for his cash. He will just pay for your night so that he can have you all for himself without and interruptions and make your night run smoothly. My thing is that ''I'm a bullshitter, so you can't bullshit me''! (Happy Camming)
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DevonSantos
if you are asking this question in this forum that means that a customer has already gotten to you.
Erm, no.
I'm more the kind of girl who is laughing at how they imagine seeing me one day, while I'm happily in couple with a boyfriend (soon to be fiance) who is heaven sent and nobody will ever be allowed to touch me as he does.
But I do not assume that because I think this way, other girls do, this is why I asked my question: share experiences and thoughts of how other think and do. I asked my question with a neutral/gentle tone, which may have lead you to think I was confused on that question, but trust me, I'm not }:D
Anyway glad to see you think like me :)
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AliciaC
Erm, no.
I'm more the kind of girl who is laughing at how they imagine seeing me one day, while I'm happily in couple with a boyfriend (soon to be fiance) who is heaven sent and nobody will ever be allowed to touch me as he does.
But I do not assume that because I think this way, other girls do, this is why I asked my question: share experiences and thoughts of how other think and do. I asked my question with a neutral/gentle tone, which may have lead you to think I was confused on that question, but trust me, I'm not }:D
Anyway glad to see you think like me :)
Yup! Very confusing!
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If a guy says 'do you ever meet' or 'wanna date' or something equally lame 9 times out of 10 he will be in 'guest' chat! :D Paying regulars usually know the rules of the game and are perfectly happy with the deal - and in fact most would be pretty freaked out if the camgirl wanted to meet them. I don't find that not forming a 'relationship' with the guys harms my $$$. I'm upfront that I'm married, that I do this because it's a fun way to earn money and that I like to have fun on cam with them but that's it. I have literally a couple of guys who I think actually 'like' me and would be quite interested in meeting me (for sex lol) but the great majority of my regulars see me cos they enjoy viewing me on cam, not cos they want to have a deep relationship. Some do like to chat - but that's more about relaxing and taking time to get in the mood (and politeness) than actually being that interested in who I am :D But then, maybe that's the kind of regular I get because that's the kind of regular I'm after?!?
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^oh - should add, that doesn't mean I don't pretend to be interested in them! Guys have egos and all! But, only to the extent of 'how was your holiday?' etc, not like 'what makes you emotionally fulfilled?' :D
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ryleeNsd
there's a couple guys (a handful really) who i am truly interested in as people, but they spend $$$$$ on my ass so yea I really do care lol! the majority of them I act like im interested but honestly have to write down what they tell me cuz i'll forget it after 5 customers.
All regulars have a shelf life, I've never had one of them tell me "i'm not going to come to you anymore" or anything like that, they just stop visiting.. its a natural part of the business. They either figure out I will never date them or they find someone else they think they can sucker into meeting, or their wives find the credit card bill lol. I used to tell guys I might meet if we get to know each other better, but that was more hassle than it was worth- i get a lot of business men as clients and they all wanted to plan "business trips" out to my (fake) area to meet. i stopped that and "got a boyfriend" and over time i've come clean about being married. It hasnt hurt my money whatsoever and it weeds out the timewasters wanting to date or meet.
I do well cuz I can get in their head and sure I've had my share of stalkers but I feel I'm at the top of my game hustle-wise, regulars are my bread and butter ;D
Very, very true!!!! ;)
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DevonSantos
Yup! Very confusing!
Sorry for that ;)
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Yes, it's an illusion. Just like dancing. The patron has the illusion that (after he tips you), you smile for him and dance for him, maybe chat a little, which makes him feel wanted and desired. He feels appreciated. Then you move on. That's the business.
However! There is nothing wrong with having online friends. Just make sure they understand that it's JUST that. ONLINE. Have a hard rule that you don't share personal information (real email, cell phone, real name, etc) with anyone.
I think of "regulars" that tip for no apparent reason are tipping because they want you to acknowledge them. Make sure you do IF you want that person to keep returning. And if you don't want them to come back (some guys are just rude assholes with money) then don't acknowledge them. They'll leave soon enough.
Think about it. Regulars aren't on cam sites JUST to see boobs. They can get that from any model. They are on there because they are lonely or bored guys (or girls!!) that want companionship, even the illusion of companionship, and are willing to pay for it. Hint: These people will spend thousands on you just see you smile. If they see the tip is appreciated, they they will continue tipping. Keep your attitude neutral. Acknowledge that any tips are appreciated, large or small. Talk WITH them, but keep the conversations neutral and flowing, and changing, and fun.
One friend of mine told me that she draws the line when friendly chat become "Drama". If you react to drama, then ALL your regulars will feel they can buy "extra attention" by sharing, and creating drama. It's a snowball effect. Ive seen it too many times. It's the kiss of death if you ask me. One regular shares a health condition, and people in the room and the model feel genuinely concerned. A WEEK later, 2 other regulars have some drama to share, expecting the same compassion. And so on and so on. It doesn't end.
So when you sense drama like, "Hey BB, can't be on later this week because im having bypass surgery" etc. Respond neutral. Just say, "No problem". End it just as fast as it starts.
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Wildgrl90
One friend of mine told me that she draws the line when friendly chat become "Drama". If you react to drama, then ALL your regulars will feel they can buy "extra attention" by sharing, and creating drama. It's a snowball effect. Ive seen it too many times. It's the kiss of death if you ask me. One regular shares a health condition, and people in the room and the model feel genuinely concerned. A WEEK later, 2 other regulars have some drama to share, expecting the same compassion. And so on and so on. It doesn't end.
So when you sense drama like, "Hey BB, can't be on later this week because im having bypass surgery" etc. Respond neutral. Just say, "No problem". End it just as fast as it starts.
I never thought of that as the situation never came up for me, but this is a great warning and a great advice! Thanks!
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Is it a good idea to get some kind of client database/notes program to keep track of regulars? Can anyone recommend a good program/website? I'm overwhelmed by the options when I do a google search. I just want to be able to search a handle and find notes I wrote on the client quickly. I don't need anything fancy.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. SM has a notes section under Earnings, but it's only by day and I can't find a feature to easily search your notes/specific client.
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I use contacts in google to keep track of the guys..by putting anything in search, the matches come up whether its something in thier contact info or in the notes area. :)
Anyway, for the regs....I never let on or act like they will be able to meet me. When I was with my ex...they allll knew I had a bf, and if someones pillow talk was getting too sweet, Id somehow toss my bf in the convo ie...HIM: I really wish I could come see you, Id take you out for dinner and we could just meet and get to know each other... Me: Awe thats a sweet thought...heeey! My bf and I just went to this amazing new italian place! He got the blah blah balh, He was like bloah blah blah..and I had too much wine and the sex was ammaaazing! they usually want to change the subject. :D
And then when I was single, I was honest about it, but then I launched into all my tales of the wild hot passionate fun I was having with all the incredibly hot young buff firm huge guys I was seeing...
That didnt in any way change thier feelings towards wanting to see me..some regs got even more interested to hear about my escapades, others didnt want to hear about it at all, got the hint and just wanted to enjoy our time together without bringing up meeting me or making it serious.
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I don't agree on the "drama" idea. I think you can be supportive and helpful of someone's life while keeping it polite and small talky.
"Can't be later on this week b/c I have bypass surgery"
"Oh gosh!" [all wide eyed ingenue] "Well I hope that works out well. I'm sure you've got the greatest doctors and I'll be hoping for your safe return here when you're feeling better. Rest up, take all the time you need, I understand."
and then maybe when you see him later you can tease him, "Now don't come too hard, I don't want to blow your stitches!" or when he's leaving, "Make sure you eat well and keep taking your medication!"
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AliciaC
1. But my question is, how do you set your relationship with your typical cam shows regular?
a) Do you let him fall in love with the character you are playing and let him think you could meet a day (while still escaping all the direct questions and letting the magic of the "neverending first date" operate)
b) Do you rather tell him upfront that it will never ever happen ?
I try to be light and happy about it. I adapt my character to whatever I think he wants but I make sure that this is a light, free, fun space. This is where you come to let off steam, masturbate and have fun. I'm safe because I'm on the internet. I'm a real person on the internet, so you're talking to a real live human being who cares about you and likes you and wants to see you. But. I'm on the internet, so you don't have to worry, you'll never meet up with me and I can never embarrass you in front of your friends and family. I'm fun because I'm safe and remote.
If I ever have a reg who wants to push it and wants to meet I joke, "You think cam shows are expensive? Well I am 100X more expensive than that!" and so far it's always shut them up.
I think that so long as you don't set it up in the beginning that you *might* meet, they don't expect it and, in fact, don't want it. They like to pretend they'd want it, but they don't.
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3. Erm I guess it leads to the question: what do you look for in a regular ? (guys who jerk off quickly and discuss a lot, guys who jerk off slowly and discuss a little, guys who discuss only, guys who jerk off only... etc.)
People who are not a pain in the ass. That's it. However our dynamic is, if I'm not sitting there groaning and rolling my eyes inwardly when I see you on the screen, we're all good.