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Re: How much a night makes it worth stripping to you?
For me acceptable income for a day shift is $200-$300...for night shift I need to make at least $500. My Goal is always to make $1000 on a night shift. Research the clubs around your area and figure out where the money is. A lot of my friends circulate all over looking for the most money. I tried webcam before and I just couldn't make that much.
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I'm fine with $200 a night. I come in late and I like to take my time while I'm there so a typical shift for me is no more than 4 hours out on the floor. If I were working 6-8 hours, I'd aim for $400. I work at a very slow dive, though. If I were at a mid-level club, I wouldn't be content with these numbers.
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Camming and stripping go hand in hand, but the only difference is that there are no customers groping on you and asking for freebies. The earning potential is hand in hand, but I say go with whatever is better for you. I am a money hungry girl, so I do both!
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I'm trying to do both but how do you girls do it? I get soooo bored doing camming to the point I have less patience then at a club. I wish I did but I cant do a full 8 hours on cam cuz of boredom.
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ladyteesexy145
Camming and stripping go hand in hand, but the only difference is that there are no customers groping on you and asking for freebies. The earning potential is hand in hand, but I say go with whatever is better for you. I am a money hungry girl, so I do both!
I didn't try camming very long...I have danced for 15 years so it has always came easy to me. I might have to come watch you and give it another try ;)
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You can make that camming, maybe better to stay home and cam..
No traffic , No gas, No drama..
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safireX
I'm trying to do both but how do you girls do it? I get soooo bored doing camming to the point I have less patience then at a club. I wish I did but I cant do a full 8 hours on cam cuz of boredom.
how many sites do you cam at , at one time? I get bored to but the more sites you work at , at one time keeps you a bit more busy.
working one site at a time will be kinda slow.
Get a magic cam software and start splitting your cam so you can work many sites.
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working in la i have to have realistic expectations. at the same time, considering my living expenses and experience in other fields that could gross the same amount, i was happy with around an avg of 300. if i'm taking my clothes off and still hustling my ass off, i'd be damned if i avg'd less than 300, which is approx less than a cocktailer makes. either way i better be sure i make bank occassionally (and to me that's what makes it worth it-making 300 in less than an hour, because if i want to i can just leave...not like a reg job)
but were there times i made less than my average. yes. i've left with a dollar. i've never worked at a club that has made me owe money, nor would i ever, at least in la.
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salemsexy
how many sites do you cam at , at one time? I get bored to but the more sites you work at , at one time keeps you a bit more busy.
working one site at a time will be kinda slow.
Get a magic cam software and start splitting your cam so you can work many sites.
Right now I just started Ifriends and am on Niteflirt which NF has been very slow especially because I fell down on placement from not being on enough, what other sites do you suggest? I cant deal with sites that only pay me 35%, it's a bit ridiculous takes too long to make money on them in my opinion. I would be happy if I averaged $200 a day camming but I don't especially because I get bored and sign off ugghh.
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I get pissy if I make less than $500 in a 6 hour shift.
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Berri said it best. Even though it's not too good in "stripper land". It is for the real world. Since you've just started back maybe it will take a min for you to get your hustle back. Also I think camming is a great idea. If your feeling lazy at home (story of my life!) then maybe try camming with a friend. So maybe work at a club 3 nights and home 2. Im sure you have a friend that wants to make money also and friends are good motivaters!
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I think about this question often. I work only 4 hours per night, 4 nights and one day per week. Only once in a while I feel that I have a night that is worth it:-(
It is hard to make money here...................
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When my club was no contact/table dance only I was alright averaging 300 for 5 hours. Now that it has private rooms (still no contact) I'm not happy unless I make 500+! Funny how things can change overnight.
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I compare my earnings with having a regular job. I used to work a crappy 8 dollar an hour job making 250 for 40 hrs a week so if I can leave with 250 in one night I'm walking on sunshine lol. honestly anything over 100 dollars to me is good money. I want a lot more obviously and I will hustle the heck out of every customer I see but I won't get mad leaving with 150 dollars after tipout.
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I faced this question myself when I decided to retire from live dancing a couple of years ago. In essence, I drew the line at $2000 a week AFTER TAXES. Ten years ago this meant earning $2000 a week ... but two years ago this meant earning more like $3000 a week in order to have $2000 left over after taxes !
These days, all webcam earnings are subject to 1099 IRS reporting, as are a good portion of the earnings at clubs that accept customer credit cards. If your income has been reported to the IRS via the webcam host or club owner sending in a 1099 form, you have no choice but to pay a minimum of 15.3% Social Security tax ... plus probably another 15% in federal income tax ... plus probably another 5% in state income tax ... on your 'gross' earnings.
Additionally, these days unlike 10 years ago, if you attempt to purchase a house or a car, if you pay college tuition etc. the IRS is going to be automatically informed in regard to the amount of money you spent. 5 minutes later IRS computers are going to be checking past tax returns to see if your reported earnings are in line with being able to 'afford' these expenditures. Same goes for loan / lease applications these days ... from an official standpoint any income that hasn't been reported to the IRS simply 'does not exist'.
For better or worse, the ability to fly under the taxman's radar are now essentially over ! This is definitely something to keep in mind when attempting to compare fully taxed 'straight job' earnings against 'earn it now ... but pay out a whole bunch later' ... independent contractor earnings from dancing and/or webcam.
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shasta
I think about this question often. I work only 4 hours per night, 4 nights and one day per week. Only once in a while I feel that I have a night that is worth it:-(
It is hard to make money here...................
So, I got on the floor late tonight, about 10:30. I took home less than 200 and feel like a total loser. This happens often.....never happens when I travel for work tho.
I have 3 degrees and have had many other jobs. My problem is that I have been dancing for 6 years! When it isn't working anymore it is sooo hard to move on!
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Anything over minimum wage is "worth it" to me, since I am still young and degree-less.
However
I'm not happy if I don't make 500+ on a night shit. I have this competitive edge to myself and I want to be as good as the top earners. In my mind, there's no way I can get to that level without earning a base amount like $500. Maybe that's just me.
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I also really try to set my expectations depending on the night. I mean, if you hit one of those nights where there just aren't many customers, that kind of determines your earnings ceiling. So I adjust what I'm happy with.
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$200 for a weeknight. $500 for weekends.
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shasta
I think about this question often. I work only 4 hours per night, 4 nights and one day per week. Only once in a while I feel that I have a night that is worth it:-(
It is hard to make money here...................
Wait, what time do you work? If you're working a swing shift rather than, say, 10-2, you're just working a crap shift.
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Originally Posted by
Melonie
I faced this question myself when I decided to retire from live dancing a couple of years ago. In essence, I drew the line at $2000 a week AFTER TAXES. Ten years ago this meant earning $2000 a week ... but two years ago this meant earning more like $3000 a week in order to have $2000 left over after taxes !
These days, all webcam earnings are subject to 1099 IRS reporting, as are a good portion of the earnings at clubs that accept customer credit cards. If your income has been reported to the IRS via the webcam host or club owner sending in a 1099 form, you have no choice but to pay a minimum of 15.3% Social Security tax ... plus probably another 15% in federal income tax ... plus probably another 5% in state income tax ... on your 'gross' earnings.
Additionally, these days unlike 10 years ago, if you attempt to purchase a house or a car, if you pay college tuition etc. the IRS is going to be automatically informed in regard to the amount of money you spent. 5 minutes later IRS computers are going to be checking past tax returns to see if your reported earnings are in line with being able to 'afford' these expenditures. Same goes for loan / lease applications these days ... from an official standpoint any income that hasn't been reported to the IRS simply 'does not exist'.
For better or worse, the ability to fly under the taxman's radar are now essentially over ! This is definitely something to keep in mind when attempting to compare fully taxed 'straight job' earnings against 'earn it now ... but pay out a whole bunch later' ... independent contractor earnings from dancing and/or webcam.
REALLY great advice. I assume that 25% of my money will go to taxes (it's usually far less since I don't work that much, but it's good to be safe) and that way I don't have to scramble at tax time.
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I'm always aiming for $500 on the weekdays and $1000 on the weekends. The club i currently work at is awesome, haven't left with less than $400 yet on any night yet (I work 5-6 nights a week). But I'm in New Zealand and NZD is pretty weak compared to AUD/USD. Still, it's great money! I'm happy.
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Nuclear Martini
Exactly!! It helps to humble ourselves. Where else can we make $500 cash per shift besides if we had PHDs? Anyways those take hard work and long hours studying complex material.
A good way to get out of stripper burnout is to get a "regular job". Maybe waitressing, as a barista, bartender, secretary, or whatever. You may just work one day because when you are just as tired after a day at your regular job as you are after a shift stripping, and make less than $100, you will be very happy to go back to the club and will BANK.
You're so right. I just took a regular job again after a long time of just dancing and realized how spoiled I am. Around $10ph and cleaning, getting yelled at by people... I prefer dancing. We tend to forget how little "work" it is (depending on how you see it of course) and how nice it is to be your own boss..
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I've started to realize too that I don't always have to "bank". I mean .... I drive far so generally once I'm there I really try hard , but occasionally , it's nice to sit back have drinks, wander on stage, do a few dances and leave with "only $xyz". Allowing myself to occasionally not push SO HARD works well for me too.
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crystalize
You're so right. I just took a regular job again after a long time of just dancing and realized how spoiled I am. Around $10ph and cleaning, getting yelled at by people... I prefer dancing. We tend to forget how little "work" it is (depending on how you see it of course) and how nice it is to be your own boss..
that's how I feel! when I have a "bad" night and I'm sitting in the dressing room thinking "UGHHH I ONLY MADE 100 DOLLARS" I step back and think "what did I have to do for this 100 dollars? dance? wow...ok nevermind then!"
yeah the job is emotionally draining but only slightly more so than having a "real" job.
I used to work at starbucks and I would go home crying my eyes out because the customers were so mean and I was working SO HARD for 8 dollars an hour. if I had a dollar for every time I heard "I SAID NO FOAM ON MY LATTE THIS HAS FOAM ON IT MAKE IT AGAIN" I would have enough money to retire at 20 years old! "SOY MILK I WANTED SOY MILK" even when I would take their order and write it on the cup and they NEVER SAID soy milk. the customers were always yelling at me, my boss was always yelling at me, my shift supervisors were always yelling at me, there was ALWAYS work to do from making drinks, cleaning up spills, running back and forth from the back room getting syrups, cups, dishes, coffee beans, etc, cleaning dirty toilets, cleaning espresso machines, cleaning EVERYTHING from floor to ceiling. you HAD to be nice to the customers. I had hot coffee THROWN at me from an uptight business woman on her cell phone. I've been called a stupid b*tch for 2% milk instead of nonfat. I got written up for the dumbest shit ever CONSTANTLY (wearing sneakers, punching in 3 minutes late, forgetting a regular's drink). I never got a raise in over a year of working there. I never made more than 30 dollars a week in tips. my boss would "forget" to let me take breaks and my shift supervisors would take hour long breaks whenever they felt like it. we had these stupid sales goals to meet and all of the baristas had to try and sell certain products and if we made our goals the manager got a bonus, not us, even though WE were doing all the work!
I busted my ASS and I was getting paid 8 bucks an hour.that's 250 a week. not even enough to live off. I could go on FOREVER about that job.
I get burnt out dancing but nowhere NEAR as burnt out as I was as a barista.
do I feel like I should be making more money to take my clothes off? hell yeah I do and I have my nights where I complain but really 100 bucks a night tax free is NOTHING to complain about.