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Nothing.. sugarbabies just tend to trick themselves into thinking they're better than escorts.
I've said so many times how sugarbabies are not supposed to have sex but the majority of ladies on sw have admitted to having sex with their sugardaddies which I still don't understand. Once you have sex for money .. you're not a sugarbaby.. You're a prostitute/hooker/sex worker. Sugarbaby means Sugarcoating.
i have had sds and there was no sex. it was like...handholding and shopping. god, shopping is so much funner when it's someone else's money.
if you don't know what you want out of a relationship, don't get into the relationship!!
Sorry I forgot to add that being a sugarbaby is VERY time consuming. Escorting you place an ad you get there you get x amount of money for the hour or multiple hours and you do dinner/have sex/concert whatever (depending on what level of escorting you are)
Exactly!
The law pretty much defines -
Prostitution: Sexual services in exchange for money OR goods.
Escorting: Time (companionship) in exchange for money OR goods.
Generally though the big difference is that an escort/prostitute has a certain fee up front, a sugarbaby does not.
Theoretically a sugar baby shouldn't be ASKING, DEMANDING, or AGREEING to anything... everything should be GIFTS. That means there would be times when you'd be hanging out, talking or spending time with him for nothing.
That's why the law enforcement & police LOVE all the sugardaddy "dating" sites. It's so easy to catch people breaking the law on those sites. Some girl shows up for a date & demands certain fees/gifts - BAM - ticketed for social escorting (depending on if she doesn't have a license in an area that requires one).
again, any relationship should be "this is what i want" "this is what you want" are these things compatible? if not, then move on. "expectations" i hate that word so much. if you are questioning what someone "expects" from you, you have no business being in the sd relationship anyway.
Why don't you ask HIM what being a sugarbaby would entail. All these definitions are great but you need to find out exactly what the person who will be PAYING you has in mind. Then you can decide if it's right for you
^^^^ Haha - you should tell all the "sugarbabies" that I know about that. Many have 2-6 sugar daddies at any given time!
I think you could have a sugar daddy who would take you shopping and to events and dinner in the beginning.......but eventually he would want some sort of sexual favor in the end.
I know women who only date men who have $$$ and are willing to spend it, thats more of a sugar daddy in my opinion.
^^^ Pretty much.
I know right! Hell tell these sugarbabies that they're really escorts and they'll go nuts. It's not even about having one or 20 clients at a time. What about high end escorts that see one client a month for 12-20k. Is she not still an escort? Of course. I know girls that call themselves sugarbabies but should really be calling themselves "hookers".
I don't see anything wrong with that of course. THOUGH I think the whole sb/sd arrangement is VERY VERY time consuming.. C'mon why do I need to negotiate with a guy about something I think he should already be doing for me. This is why I stick to escorting/hooking/selling my time for money.. I don't have to sit around and blab/negotiate what i'll do and what he'll do for me. We both know what we're there for so we skip all that bullshit.
For example Elvia.. I know a lady that only does 12 hour minimum appointments. Her 12 hour appointment is 8k. 10 appoitments a year and she's making $80,000.. Very smart but She's still an escort not a sugarbaby. Even at my little $450 an hour.. I see one client a day am I a sugarbaby.. hell no but will I sometimes do sugarbaby/sugardaddy arrangements on the side OF COURSE but I will not be fucking the gents and if I did he'd pay and he'd pay very well.
^^^ Exactly. There are a lot of girls who think they are sugar babies & they really are more like extended/long-term exclusive escorts.
Defining the SB/SD relationship is REALLY hard!
I have a guy that has been trying to woo me for over a year now - via telephone! Some of the girls on SW know who he is. He sends me gifts that are worth $500-$800 at a time... like gift certificates to really nice stores, fancy foods, perfumes from other countries. I literally have a bottle of perfume worth $800+ from him that I haven't touched. I talk to him maybe once or twice a month (20-40mins total). I like him, but our situations right now aren't "correct" to actually be dating - so we aren't.
I know that if I need something he would help me out. He's offered to do things like send a limo to come pick me up when I got stranded hundreds of miles away from an airport!
I still don't know where to put things between us. Some friends would say he is a SD... but I don't really consider him one. I have wondered multiple times though if he does this with other women, but I know some of his friends & employees pretty well - & other than me they don't know of any women that he talks to... ever - or at least not within the last 5 years.
For me in most cases a sugar baby is an escort, but there are exceptions. I once had a strictly platonic sugar baby situation. It was an executive who needed a pretty girl to escort him to events, etc (he was a busy guy). Sometimes I would go over to his house to hang out (getting paid) but it was usually for an event (he held many at his house). It was usually a once or twice weekly event and there was never sex involved or even implied. He was recently separated I believe and eventually it ended and he was transferred. He warned me from the get go that it was a temporary thing and wasn't interested in sex. No, I wouldn't have had sex with him. I have been approached to do many other sugar daddy situations but most involved sex so those were turned down.I did escort other guys to events but these were strictly meeting them at the event then me going home by myself.
^^^ He was paying you to be with him or hang out with him... so that was more social escorting - the kind that is legal most places.
The dictionary defines it as a wealthy, usually older man who gives expensive gifts to a young person in return for sexual favors or companionship. I'm not saying it's smarter either way, but sugar babies do have sex with them most of the time and that doesn't technically make them escorts. It is some kind of prostitution, yes, but just because a sugar baby has sex with her SD doesn't mean she's not a real sugar baby. I personally find the opposite true, but that's just me..
@ Kylea, Very well said!
@ Kellydancer, Yes that is more like a social escorting/true sugardaddy arrangement.
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Prostitution is the act or practice of providing sexual services to another person in return for payment. People who execute such activities are called prostitutes. Prostitution is one of the branches of the sex industry. Estimates place the annual revenue generated from the global prostitution industry to be over $100 billion.[1]
sugar baby- a woman who provides companionship and/or sexual relations for a wealthy, older man in exchange for expensive gifts and/or money; a "gold digger".
Are you kidding me? What's the difference because all my clients are wealthy old men. Does this mean I can now call myself a sugarbaby instead of an escort/prostitute? ::) C'mon that's like saying I'm not an escort because I'm selling my time not sex.. that's even more closer to the truth than a sugarbaby not being a prostitute...
I guess it's different when you're advertising it eh? Whatever.. Sugarbabies are Prostitutes/another way to say Sugarcoating and guess who's getting the short end of the stick? The so called "sugarbaby" because you know why? By the time she's gotten x amount of money for whatever from that ONE client she could have doubled or even tripled than money as an high end escort. I know a girl that got busted putting up ads on craigslist for an SB/SD relationship and actually meeting the guys up and negotiating sex acts.
Seriously this is 2010, You'd think people would be up on game now.
Yes I've been a sugarbaby and I did NOT have sex. There was a lot of using and playing mind games involved. I'm now in the happy business making men happy giving them what they want in return for lots of cash and gifts... I'm a prostitute/escort/hooker.. Just for the record.
Sigh... thank goodness I didn't have to be the one to say it.
^^^ Seriously! It's like some days I just don't want to be the "bad guy" on here. Other days I post something & if people don't take the advice I'm like "whatever". Its rare that I'll actually argue something... & only if it really effects other people &/or their life/health.
You can lead a horse to water... but you can't make it drink.
Kylea,
Totally understand where you're coming from but If I don't say it no one else will and plus I lost my "good girl" card on here a long time ago. Clearly there are lots of naive people out there and I'm just trying to help them make better decisions.
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The same people that become sugarbabies are the same ones that say "ewww you're an escort???!?!"... I'm just thinking "You're doing the same thing!"
I have a friend that recently met up with a guy for an sb/sd arragement. She kept going on and on about the arrangement I saw how excited she was and let her talk. When she finished I asked her, "Ok how did you screen?" She looked at me like "huh?" hmmmmmm
Most sugarbabies don't screen
Sorry but there is no way I can go anywhere with a stranger without screening again NAIVE. Sugarbaby or escort it is just wise to protect yourself by screening because fact of the matter is... there are crazy ass people out there. Before I even start talking to a client on the phone I have his full name, cell and home number, a picture of him, work number, work website address, references and more. I couldn't talk to anyone without it .. nope couldn't do it, My safety comes first! Let's not forget the fact that there are also wannabe sugardaddies preying on young naive women every second.
*Sigh* Ignorance is not bliss, Arm yourself with the best weapon GET EDUCATED!
I could go on and on about this but I will leave it here for now. If you're going to be a sugarbaby please be smart and don't have sex with the guys. There are so many ways to go about it though yes it could be very time consuming. Hell become a social escort and just get paid to go out. At least that way you wouldn't be negotiating anything. Just food for thought.
That's my point... I can only be the "bad guy" so much. Its good to know I have other girls on here to share that title with! }:D
I agree... it's about being smart. You all know how I am... I don't go out with a guy until I've done a background check on him, & I don't sleep with them until we've been blood tested together. Ignorance isn't always bliss... sometimes it's just dangerous or dumb.
Meant to say "not " bliss but was typing way too fast lol oops! :p Yes it is dangerous and dumb and it's funny how many people think "Oh that'll never happen to me I'm way smarter than that!" Nope they're really not as smart as they think. We only have one life that's it..this is why I take my business a lot more serious than most. A little paranoia is good for everyone!
lol @ being the bad guy well I was reading old threads and lol'd reading all the names I've been called on here haha! *sigh* I just don't want to hear about any of us getting arrested or worse..
^^^ Not just business either... personal life as well. If it weren't for some of the bs that has happened in my personal life I wouldn't be nearly as concerned about business I don't think. People will hide stuff from you for years: dealing drugs, marriages, children, diseases... better to be safe about it and sure then to hope they tell you the truth.