what happened on flirt4free that so many models went over to streamate?
this was always a talked about site that made the most money etc etc. why would so many models defect?:O
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what happened on flirt4free that so many models went over to streamate?
this was always a talked about site that made the most money etc etc. why would so many models defect?:O
The only reason I could see why they all switched could be traffic, and pay. Nothing get's ladies to leave fater then when they aren't getting guys coming in and out....and making that money. Who are you camming with?
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Hi,
Why? this was a very simple why and i know because i work for flirt4free.
They yes are a good company and i like them...
But they have a % verse how long you on online without making any shows mins..
So if you don't keep your stats up at a certain % they fire you now.
ok let's not say fire they move you off flirt to a slower site and you only show online there.
I know this sucks and it's not easy keeps me stressed to make sure not to get cut..
Seems they felt they had to many models not performing well so now you have to or you go bye bye.
As for streammate they dont do that so you dont have to worry about it.
Flirt is busy and its not slow as far as people in your rooms at all.. you just have to push so hard to make the shows. And there pricey so you really have to hard sell guys.
I guess they feel this was the right thing to do.. if im not a im a fantastic mood and ready to push I just don't log in..
They also have a TON of rules.
In free chat: no smoking, no labels of any kind (had to remove the label off my bottle of water), only f4f approved music (instrumental garbage).
There are more, but I can't remember right now lol
I wouldn't mind the no smoking rule :)
why are models leaving or not wanting to work on flirt4free?
1) too many rules
2) very few paying members
3) guests are allowed to chat
4) they sell your private shows
5) they fire you if you don't make enough money
6) they automatically sign you up under a studio when you register
ok ok.............thanks for the information....we always heard it was a high class site, and hard to get accepted to work there....then you see very beautiful models telling me they are from flirt4free but don't want to talk about it really....was just curious thanks for explaining! :)
I had similar experiences with flirt4free, lots of beggars and though I did make money there I just felt it was coming in too slowly. I find I can make more per hour on Streamate so why should I give myself a massive headache with all the beggars on there when I can go to streamate, make my $ and not feel aggravated.
I actually did love the staff I worked with though. Very professional, paid on time, etc. Very nice. I didn't like how they would inactivate me every time I took a few days off though, but I guess it's their policy. I kept having to ask to be reinstated. After awhile I got too aggravated and haven't been on there in almost a year.
not a good policy for staff to treat models who are their bread and butter in such a manner.....why do the models allow this?...........what now they will loose all of their best models, so who really benefits from this ego power tripping?
streamate is heading in that direction and soon.
Just like you pointed out that models should NOT be treated so poorly (and this is why they left flirt4free) you then have to acknowledge that models are staying at Streamate because they approve of the way they are being treated, correct?
Then why are you so adament about talking trash about Streamate?
Many girls make the majority of the income from this site alone. They pay on time, every week. The traffic is consistent AND BIG so you don't end up losing sleep because you're HOPING you get enough traffic to make your goal for the night, etc. And I know of ZERO camgirls that have found their videos up on a hub site, etc. LiveJasmin releases videos too. Read your contract. And besides, the vids pose as a way to get more traffic to your chat room. And if you don't like it ask SM to pull-it and they will. This is normal procedure.
And none of this is speculation or debate. I'm sorry I have to be so blunt with you but I smell something fishy because you are obviously biased against Streamate. And the only reason I know of someone being this biased has to do with money. Unless I'm wrong and there's a legitimate reason for your rants against an easy, consistent paycheck at Streamate. I don't talk about what I make but I would not make this per hour in any other profession. It's a good thing. Please don't scare other girls that are trying to find THEIR #1 money-earner to support themselves or their family. For all you know, there may be several camgirls that are taking care of a mom or dad OR BOTH and they desperately need to make more money at camming.
Well, honey...at LiveJasmin I was in that same situation. I'm GLAD I found them. And the only reason it took me so long to get with SM was because of disparaging propoganda like I'm seeing from you. Let these girls choose where they want to make money at. So again I say, the models stick around at SM because they are treated BETTER than most other places. And if they were treated so badly (as you allege) then they would leave. Just like they left FLIRT4FREE.
We all have the power to choose but lets end this one-sided bias against SM because it really makes it seem like you are peddling another website in the very near future...
Doodlebug-
Guys are always on the back pages on streamate because the majority of members are looking for girls. That's just the nature of the biz.
If they search the male category, it will most likely bring you up on the 1st page...make sure you have a good cam, activate your phone option & keep your sound on. Having all that will bump you up further on the page :)
why don't you debate a post, rather than attacking the poster..get off my back.....i made this thread with sincere curiosity, hearing such big things about flirt4free and still know zilch about flirt4free....except that everyone spoke about flirt4free being very exclusive, now then we ask ourselves why did most of these ladies leave such a fine site.....is that so wrong to ask?
biased against streamate?.................go on....did you see my other posts about streamate?...........go read them and stop attacking me, and discuss the post.
i wrote all what i know, the good the bad and the ugly....get it?
now just because you are sitting on a velvet cushion and treated royally don't assume everyone else is....
did you see me turning off the readers against streamate and saying don't go there?
NO!.........so stop yapping, and imagine that you are not the only one on streamate, and imagine that sometimes a model does not have to do anything fishy to not find the place as favorable....
yes you can be placed on page 25...how do you know what people are trated like individually?.............you don't, so stop your preaching! i came here to share things whatever they are they are honest and experiences....ain't no one knocking yours.
so live and let live.
Hey guy, don't get your panties in a twist.
I'm not attacking you. I'm questioning you. That is all. And again, I am replying to your posts (not the OP-LOL) only because they are consistently anti-SM and full of bull.
I'm sorry that you feel like your being attacked. (LMAO)
Lots of girls can end up on the first page WITHOUT a studio. And LiveJasmin's PAYING traffic is considerably slower than Streamate or even Adultwork.com most of the time. I'm telling you this DOODLEBUG so YOU can make more money.
But...you still insist on staying at LJ, and making less money with a studio.
so I'll let YOU continue to haphazardly reply to me as I lay upon my velvet cushion!!! There's some room up here for you too baby cakes. ;)
HUGS!
Lol lol
I know!!! Your so funny DoodeBug. ;)
So, I got an email from Video Secrets (flirt4free) today wanting me to come back there.
I literally spent less than an hour on that site over a year ago. I'm debating on whether or not I want to respond telling them how I really feel lol
I would never go back there.
Doodlebug is a chick. I am a bit confused now... geesh.
^^^ Hmmmm...MyLive? Tell us more.
I won't "brag". We could meet in person and see for yourself. You're always welcome Alphagal;)
Ahhhh hahah! I see. Before edit I thought Mylive was something new.
You funny girl!! You actually made me blush. HAHA!