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You know, this is really unfair (cam related)
I notice that whenever I get a private my room quickly fills up but I never get paid for it except by the guy who stays in the longest. The rest know the rules. They can sit in there and peak at me 20 seconds, sign out, then sign back in and keep doing the same thing over and over until they cum or my private ends and they'll never be charged or have to pay me. Unfortunately they come and go so quickly that while I'm busy performing I never have time to catch them and block them UGH. Pisses me off.
I hate this fucking rule it's so unfair. 20 seconds is a looong time. If they're going to have something like that why not 5 seconds or something? What's the point? See this is one thing I like most about phone sex. Whether they're on 1 second or one minute they are charged and I get paid for my time. I wish cam could be the same.
Anyone else notice this?
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Are you talking about streamate?
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Streamate is the worst at it for me. Dudes may sit in my room askin for freebies and waiting around for a little bit to see if someone takes me private and as soon as he does they hop in the room and peak for free. Even if they're not currently in my room, if they visit and see I'm busy they will do it then too. HATE IT.
I notice Imlive gives their first seconds free as well. But, I don't do free chat there, so it's not as bad nor does it bother me much. They usually sign out before I even have the chance to say hello so I'm not really giving anything away for free in imlive's case.
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Re: You know, this is really unfair (cam related)
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minniesoporno
Are you talking about streamate?
YUP! haha
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Whoa, the first 20 seconds in private on Streamate is free? I just got approved there, and I didn't see anything about that the on the site.
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...so you take your clothes off after 20 secs.... no biggie
the dudes who hop in and out of my private in rapid mode are most of the time waiting for all the other cocks to leave so they can have me alone without going exclusive.
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It's rare that I never get paid from the first guy who takes me private. By the time we exchange pleasantries and he starts to explain what he wants the 20 seconds have passed.
I've had a couple dudes join in on a private and leave then come back when I'm available, but for the most part they all know if I'm private than I'm busy, probably already and they wanna peak. There's the difference between jumping in and out of private and refreshing over and over again in the free room.
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I'm not on Streamate, but I'm wondering is there a way to not accept spy view letting others enter the room if already in private chat ?
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It's actually 30 seconds on streamate and yeah I hate it also. I ban frequent abusers of that system. I LOVE calling them on it. As if we wouldn't notice them popping in 50 times in 4 hours.
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BellaBellini
It's actually 30 seconds on streamate and yeah I hate it also. I ban frequent abusers of that system. I LOVE calling them on it. As if we wouldn't notice them popping in 50 times in 4 hours.
you don't get paid per minute on a lot of these places that buy credits.........someone explained this just can't remember the detailed explanation.....but he said that you are actually paid by the credits this person has..
yes the guys know that, and they are milking it for whatever they can get.
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ryleeNsd
...so you take your clothes off after 20 secs.... no biggie
*exactly!* .. sigh
It's not that big of a deal
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The thing that bugs me about this the most is when your show is over, your 30 seconds to free chat is counting down, you're getting dressed, and these fuckers pop back into private and out again to make your countdown start all over.
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Juliette25
The thing that bugs me about this the most is when your show is over, your 30 seconds to free chat is counting down, you're getting dressed, and these fuckers pop back into private and out again to make your countdown start all over.
Yep, I freakin hate that too!
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BellaBellini
It's actually 30 seconds on streamate and yeah I hate it also. I ban frequent abusers of that system. I LOVE calling them on it. As if we wouldn't notice them popping in 50 times in 4 hours.
I know! I'm really pissed at myself for not catching the guy who did it yesterday because he was the worst. He had one of those standard names "Big Boy" with some random numbers and sadly he never came back after about the 15th time so I could catch and ban him. A few other big boys showed up but I'm not sure any of them were him.
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KaylaM
*exactly!* .. sigh
It's not that big of a deal
Everyone has 30 free seconds, not just the first guy who goes private and if it's a non-exclusive private any of them can jump in and out at any time.
I mean how are we not supposed to be naked if we've already been in private with the paying customer a few minutes before the freebie seekers show up? There's no way to block them from viewing what the paying member sees.
For example if a guy has me in private for 5 minutes and asks me to undress and bend over for him, then when the freebie seeker pops in at that moment hes gonna see me naked and bent over, start rubbing himself and sign in and out every 30 seconds for a free show. I can't just stop what I'm doing and cover up and wait for 30 seconds to pass every time someone enters when the original guy is paying to see a show, ya know?
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if it keeps happening make your premiums non nude and only go nude in exclusive that way those cheap fuckers don't see you all naked and bent over etccc.
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o.O I never new Streamate did this. Ugh.....I am going to set my exclusive price lower now and only do nude on exclusive screw the freebies shit!
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misselise07
o.O I never new Streamate did this. Ugh.....I am going to set my exclusive price lower now and only do nude on exclusive screw the freebies shit!
don't lower your rate-make those thirsty men pay! they will if they want to see you nude. 8)
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UGH I was wondering WHY twenty million guys would flood into my privates every time one guy bought a session!
It's really unfair and annoying. You're absolutely right - even if you wait the 20 or 30 seconds to get undressed, tons of guys pop in and out the whole show so at some point, theres multiple guys watching me butt ass naked with a toy or whatever. There's no way to reach down, stop the show and ban every single one without pissing off the paying member.
I thought I had found my favorite site with Streamate ... guess not! They all suck and screw us over in some way or another!
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Yeah, I wrote Streamate out of genuine curiosity to know why they allow men to get away with it since they're being jipped as well and I keep getting generic "What exactly are you asking?" "So what exactly are you suggesting? Please let us know" replies. Eh, fuck off.
I don't understand why they have free 30 seconds anyway. Streamate is free chat only so before the guys take us private they KNOW our cams and mics work. What do they need 30 "test" seconds? Isn't free chat test enough?
And I think this thread jinxed me. For the first time I had a guy go private with me today and I THOUGHT the free seconds had passed when he asked to see my tits because I went rather slow. But as soon as I lifted my shirt up to tease him he signed out and I wasn't paid. I swear to god I wanted to kill someone!
I'm going to keep a timer with me at all times and set it off whenever I get privates from now on lol. I'm laughing but I'm serious :) Nothing pisses me off or makes me feel more cheap than to offer sex services, get someone off and get no pay in return. I don't mind being a whore, but I want to be a PAID whore! lol
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^ LOL. Yeah, everytime I write Streamate to ask them a question I get canned, automated responses. I'm still not sure when I will be paid according to how they have my account set up even though I've emailed them asking it in different ways twice.
I'm not sure camming is for me. The dudes annoy me so freaking fast, all asking the same dumb questions over and over and trying to see as much as possible for free. I wayyy prefer dancing.
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To be fair the people who answer the support questions might not know about the free 30 seconds. I've found their support staff very helpful but you do have to make your point very clear or say it a few times.
I understand the concept of offering a teaser because often guys are curious and do stay in chat and then you make more money. But I think they could do it like they do on flirt4free and other sites where you see a tiny little window that pops up every 20 seconds our so BRIEFLY. That's a teaser, not 30 seconds especially when the guys know that they get 30 seconds free.
Streamate is a busy site so guys can go from room to room for hours watching for free as long as they leave before the 30 seconds are up. They certainly have timers going. It also isn't the best strategy because they get a lot of their traffic on tube sites where guys are used to getting lots for free.
But overall it has been the easiest site for me to work on and do well on. No site is perfect. I'm sure they have done some research and found that they make serious bank on certain models because lots of customers will stay in premium chat. A hardcore porn star like Claudia-Marie is going to have tons of guys in premium chat and that system works for others like her.
I'll never have 100 premiums staying in my room on streamate for fetish shows. But at least streamate has decent fetish traffic.
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They annoyed me bad too when I first started and I didn't think cam was for me, but I took a little time to see how the more popular and successful girls handled their free rooms and took some cues from them then worked it into my own groove. It got easier once I learned what to do.
I'm just happy Streamate has Gold now so every time I get asked "oo bb stand up and show me this this or that" I tell them I'd love to but they need to send me Gold first which works out if they're "too broke" for a private but have enough to tip. They can't see each other send Gold so I can have multiple guys tip me for a 1 second peek-a-boo. If they refuse to send me even a dollar for a peek, then I know they're cheap and have no intentions of spending money on me to begin with so they can kick rocks. I stop paying attention to anything those dudes say or boot them out.
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BellaBellini
To be fair the people who answer the support questions might not know about the free 30 seconds. I've found their support staff very helpful but you do have to make your point very clear or say it a few times.
I understand the concept of offering a teaser because often guys are curious and do stay in chat and then you make more money. But I think they could do it like they do on flirt4free and other sites where you see a tiny little window that pops up every 20 seconds our so BRIEFLY. That's a teaser, not 30 seconds especially when the guys know that they get 30 seconds free.
Streamate is a busy site so guys can go from room to room for hours watching for free as long as they leave before the 30 seconds are up. They certainly have timers going. It also isn't the best strategy because they get a lot of their traffic on tube sites where guys are used to getting lots for free.
But overall it has been the easiest site for me to work on and do well on. No site is perfect. I'm sure they have done some research and found that they make serious bank on certain models because lots of customers will stay in premium chat. A hardcore porn star like Claudia-Marie is going to have tons of guys in premium chat and that system works for others like her.
I'll never have 100 premiums staying in my room on streamate for fetish shows. But at least streamate has decent fetish traffic.
I agree with everything you said. Streamate is my best site so I'm not going to quit working there. This is just something super-sucky that comes with the territory I guess, but I WISH they could find a way to fix it. I'm not totally against premium chat. Premium chat works when the men cooperate and play fair. I love making double, tripple the money for one show. I'll never have 100 men in premium at onceeither, but damn I wish. Can you imagine? Haha.
Anyway, I finally got a human response back while I was typing my other post:
"Sessions under thirty seconds cannot be billed for whether we are "fine
with it" or not.
We are always looking into solutions to this and any other problems on
the site. Let us know if you have any other suggestions for the site.
Also, you should try blocking some of these customers -- if you haven't
tried this already.
Hope this helps."
Thanks.
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ah, it is a processing issue. The great thing about streamate is that you know that the guys you are chatting with have their credit cards registered and just have to hit 1 button to go private and you can potentially keep them in there until their daily limit runs out.
On other sites you aren't sure if the guys in your room are freeloaders or not. I think more guys will get the message if we make it really clear that we won't tolerate guys who leave in under 30 seconds. They ultimately want to stay on the site and probably will get a show from us in the future. But they will ALWAYS try their luck, however if they start getting banned by a number of models I bet they start changing their ways.