The dreaded "Maybe" or "Come Back Later"
What do you do when you get "maybe" or "come back later" when you ask for a dance? Do you actually come back later and ask again, or not?
Better yet, do you try and turn that "maybe" into a "yes"...? I believe it was "Stripper Hacks" (identify yourself girl, if you're here ;)) who mentioned it too but I also heard to never come back after a guy said maybe. Instead you say something to imply that you only ask once and never return. I find that this works SOMETIMES but with other guys it can be a total turn-off. Also tonight, I found that this one dude really DID mean to come back. Story: It was near closing time when I moseyed on back to him. He told me he had been interested in a VIP and hoped I would come by earlier. However it was obviously too late for it. Well hmph.
I think next time I may just ASK THEM to flag me down if they say maybe instead of it being my responsibility to come back. I'm tired of custys that don't mean it and waste my time.
Maybe it's just me but there are an incredible/unnecessary amount of maybe's in the club (especially on Friday nights?) ::)
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You never know when not returning could lose you a sale... & potentially a regular. So yes, I do go back. I don't to the "wanna dance thing", so normally I will close the sale rather than get "maybe later". However, once in awhile I get thrown a curve ball - like a guy coming up to my stage & saying he wants a dance from me, but when I go to meet him after my set he tells me "maybe later".
Generally I have a "3 times is a charm" rule, but even that is not 100%. One of my best regulars took 4 or 5 times before we went for dances. I literally was mad that he'd run off with some cocktail waitress after telling me "maybe later" so many time. I started to make my way across the floor having full intention to just bypass him, & he turned around to make eye contact with me, so I thought "what the heck, one more time". It turns out he'd promised the cocktail waitress a dance before we'd ever talked & wanted to fulfill that promise first. He treated me really well that first evening though & continues to do so into present day.
Now, generally if they do come to my stage & then say "maybe later", I watch to see what they are drinking & how much. This took me awhile to figure out but sometimes they just start getting hammered & pretty soon forget they even wanted a dance & will just waste your time. Drunks customers are not my forte, probably because I don't really drink much I have very little tolerance for them.
I have turned "maybe" into a "yes" before. Often this is when I have decided to go home & they thought I was going to be there all night, or I tell them I have other customers waiting. Sometimes making them realize you are not hanging around all night or that you are a "wanted women" gives them a bit more motivation.
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it used to always just mean no, well maybe 19 guys out of 20, and that one who meant it wasn't worth asking everyone. but i've noticed since the recession started that a lot of guys really mean it, maybe half of them especially younger ones. so i'm trying to come back later. it's hard to change old habits though.
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I'd go back later, but generally, it means they're a timewaster and just sit to watch/drink/whatever, and most often when I go back they've already left (dayshift, lunch crowd ish). I've been getting a LOT of "well when are you on stage? oh? ok! We'll go after I see you on stage" at which point I politely tell them I have to freshen up..and go back after- which did work today but only 1 dance. Those types also aren't usually spenders-of course theres the exception.
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I like to watch the room, If a guy just showed up with in the last hour I'll comeback for a "maybe later", if he's been there awhile and says "maybe later" than I don't. I've heard a lot of guys complain to me about how they have a girl jump in their lap the second they sit down.
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Dolly D
I like to watch the room, If a guy just showed up with in the last hour I'll comeback for a "maybe later", if he's been there awhile and says "maybe later" than I don't. I've heard a lot of guys complain to me about how they have a girl jump in their lap the second they sit down.
i had a method like that. I would wait and watch the room for awhile, and then after he'd sat down with his lunch & plowed halfway through his plate, i'd come by and say to him, "hello! i'm Olivia. Do you mind if I sit down and we get to know each other? or do you need your alone time?" Giving him a relaxed atmosphere to choose what HE wanted instead of just bopping into his lap and attacking him; thus making him feel trapped therefore causing a negative answer truly did actually work really well because I'd get to know him...like his mannerisms, his way he talked and joked, what he enjoyed, and just have actual intellectual conversation(s) with him. I mean, the way I see it is JUST BE REAL, NOT the normal strippery-fake shit a lot of the dingbat girls do and you'll get ahead. :( I found that bought me more "sure, let's go" and "hell yea" and "of course" answers and regulars than ever. What I'm saying is, yea, of course I DID get the "maybe" & "come back later" types, but I usually was so persistant and used my intellectual charm that that problem didn't arise often. Maybe it has something to do with your approach PhxRising? I am DEFINITELY NOT saying you're some "strippery-fake dingbat girl" and that you act like that:-\...I am just saying that maybe the hustle's luster is lacking. hahaha!:P Perhaps a different way of approaching the man and breaking the ice would change things? It took many failed attempts to figure out what worked the best FOR ME, what I felt comfortable saying, and what I had to do to seal the deal. (NOT LIKE THAT!!)
Just keep trying and being persistant. DO NOT GET DISCOURAGED....and only let yourself get a tiny bit frustrated. They're stupid creatures of the Earth. Men don't really know what to do with a beautiful woman nor do they know how to act around her and receive her kindness. The ones that do are few and far between nowadays.
Remember that. haha! :D
Italian_Bombshell849
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"Come back later."
Maybe. ::)
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depends how they say it [whether its an excuse to leave or genuine]. some people just cant say no for some reason. i certainly dont have the persistance to come back later unless i knew they went for shows, have money or the club is dead. id rather try everyone in the room then go ask again if no luck then ask the rest of the room. friend of mine was really good at that, she networked through the whole room before i could build rapport with three people..
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I think Dolly has it 100%. If the guy recently sat down, his maybe later might be genuine.
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I don't waste my time with the "maybe later" guys. my first month dancing I had a guy SWEAR he would get a dance from me before he left. he was like " I really like you and I came with a lot of money to spend but I just want to have a couple drinks first. you are hot though. come back later" I went up to him after an hour and he said "still not ready yet. give me a little bit longer" and then I went into the dressing room and when I came back out he was gone. guys love to play mind games.
you know that dating rule "don't be too available?" well I found it works the same way with selling dances. guys DO NOT want a girl that's too available. if a guy says "maybe later" and you come back later you're putting the ball in HIS court. men LOVE having power over females. even the nicest guys can be controlling. they do it consciously. they like to see how far they can push us. have you ever dated a really nice guy who would show up late CONSTANTLY for your dates? it's really a control thing. they want to see how needy you are. in dating, they want to see how needy you are for their attention and in the strip club they want to see how needy you are for their money. have you ever realized that the guys who come up to YOU for lap dances are the guys you literally didn't even notice the entire night? they sought after you because they wanted you to approach them but you were too busy with other guys and were completely unavailable. they see you as a challenge if you aren't hanging all over them.
a girl could be hot but a guy hates it when she's all over him the second he walks through the door because it's TOO easy.
guys say "maybe later" for the EXACT same reason they don't return your calls and leave you on fucking pins and needles for days and days after your first date. they want to bug you and get under your skin. they want a reaction. they want to see if they can upset you.
when a guy says "maybe later" to me ESPECIALLY if it's a young guy I tell him "okay but I probably won't be available for the rest of the night being as some of my regulars are coming in later and once I get caught up doing dances with other people I probably won't remember to come back so I'm giving you the chance now to grab a dance with me". it doesn't ALWAYS work but you have a better chance of turning a "maybe" into a "yes" by doing that than just by walking away.
it sounds counter-intuitive but by being the "hard to get" dancer can be profitable. act like you don't CARE whether or not he spends money. don't act desperate. act like you're already having a great night and you'll intrigue him and he'll come around.
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I'll come back later.... if I run out of good, spending customers. Its better to make a second try on those 'maybes' than sit in the dressing room with nothing to do, right?
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Different things work for different people. I make it a point not to return to the person who gives me that "Maybe later" bullshit. Maybe I'm cutting back on my chances to make money but I don't feel its worth the effort of returning to a customer that say's "Maybe later" when its just as easy to say "No thank you." There have been a couple of times when guys who have said "Maybe later" and meant it enough to come looking for me but other wise, I just don't waste my time going back because most of the time, they're lying and just don't have the balls to be honest.
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Stripper Hacks
"Come back later."
Maybe. ::)
hehehe ;D
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Recently I had a guy say maybe later so I said if you do it right now I will give you two $20 dances for $30 and that got him to do it right away. Normally I would never discount dances but that night was looking really lame and I wanted to at least make enough to pay for the gas it took to drive to work and back.
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If a guy elaborates and says something like "I'd just like to have another beer first" and says he wants dances afterwards, or if I jump a customer right when he walks in the door (you know...those nights with 15 girls and only 1 or 2 customers :( ) and he seems happy and asks me to please come back and visit in a little while (straight and to the point, not fucking around wasting my time for 20 minutes first) then I will come back and check on customers. Otherwise, like if I already talked to them for 10-15 minutes, I won't. Unless its dead, or I've made nada.