do any of u girls work with girls that only does VIP/Private shows and refuses to do regular lapdances?? there is one girl at the stripclub that i go to that does this. I never understood why, she's loosing money.
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do any of u girls work with girls that only does VIP/Private shows and refuses to do regular lapdances?? there is one girl at the stripclub that i go to that does this. I never understood why, she's loosing money.
It just means she doesn't need your money. I know one girl. She doesn't do regular lapdances cause she is claustrophobic, she makes it up by helping me with my work.
this actually might result in more money.
I have worked at clubs that had obscenely cheap dance options, as well as more expensive ones. if a customer was stupid enough to ask for a 5$ dance i flat out said i dont do them, you can buy a more expensive dance thank you. usually they did. a few refused- and they got what they paid for... a clothed dance 3 feet away sometimes in the form of hte macarena or the disco.
also, i have stopped going on stage at my club. this has actually helped me sell dances- guys are like im going to wait to see you on stage and i say "im not going on stage tonight. if you want to see me naked, you have to take me back there".
same deal... i bet for some girls its like "well if you want me to dance for you then you have to take me to VIP" and if the guy likes them enough he will. maybe she misses out on your 20$, but another customer who was going to spend 20$ will then spend 200$. so in the end she wins.
The last club I was at was €30 for 1 song in private, in which time we have to get naked. I usually pushed for 2 songs, as I think 1 song is far too short of a time to get naked, but there were a handleful of nights I flat out refused to do any less than 2 songs.
My good friend and on-again-off-again roommate is like this.
People will ask her for a $20 dance and she flat refuses. If you want to spend time with her, you'll do at LEAST a 3-for-100, and she'll only deign to do those if she's decided you're respectful and worth her time.
Most of the time, she walks around for a minute at the beginning of the night, hustles herself a couple drinks, and then disappears into VIP for a couple of hours. Some guys get really offended that she doesn't want their 20 bucks - but she doesn't need it. Wasting time on a lapdance to her is 3 minutes she could be using to get a dude back in extended VIP.
She basically wins no matter what. lol
^In my experience that applies to about one-third of the dancers at the LV Rhino. And when you have a couple hundred girls on the floor that's a lot!
I may have to re-examine this phenomenon Fri night.;D
I think when you're first starting out, it's not good to take this route. But if you've been dancing for awhile, have some regulars and feel comfortable in your hustling skills, absolutely do NOT do one or two dances at a time! I personally do go this route myself. I also never EVER go onstage, unless it's once a night for personal enjoyment OR if a customer has already spent a grip of money on me and I tell him to cash in $300 in ones to throw at me.
And many customers will get so mad that I won't go onstage! LOL They will ask me when I go up next and I'll say "Oh honey, I'm sorry, I don't DO the stage thing". When they ask why, I simply tell them it's not worth my time. I'd rather spend the time doing dances and VIPs. If they are persistant at seeing me onstage, I tell them "Ok, well let's go the bar and I'll help you cash $300 in singles and then when I go up, you can throw them at me. That's the only way you'll see me onstage. If you really wanna see me naked, you can do that, or we can do a VIP, or some beddances." Usually, if they have money, they'll spend it, and if they don't, well I weeded out a person I didn't want to talk to anyways.
On most nights, I flatly refuse to do anything less than 3-5 dances, and EVERY night I refuse to do topless. NOT. WORTH. MY. TIME. Usually the incentive to see me naked, since they can't onstage, peaks their interest and acting like hot shit does too. Usually they'll ask me "are you like, the top girl or something?" to which I always reply yes, and if they try to negotiate some lower quanity or price of dances, I always let them know that I DO NOT need their money badly enough to lower my standards. Most of the time, they end up buying on MY terms, lol. So no, it's never about LOSING money, ever ever. It's about demanding to be treated to prices you DESERVE, and not compromising and getting less that you know you need for the time you spend.
The only exception to this is with regulars who will come in and spend a lot sometimes, and other times, only get a few dances (with a group of guys or when they are low on cash, whatever). I will let them get away with 1 or 2 dances because I know they'll come back in a bit and spend A LOT. Other than that, it's no dice. I will hold out for the big spenders, thank you very much, because they're there and if you you're stuck doing one dance for a broke ass, you might miss them.
Oh and 2 for 1s? HELL NO.
I actually like going on stage at least once(no more than that) a night when there are enough guys. Makes the sell easier for me, bc I get to see the guys who have their eyes glued to me. And i've gone straight to the VIP room from the stage a couple of times.
Stage isn't always that bad. I just hate it when they call me wrong timing, sitting with a spending customer.
How do you know she is losing money? Maybe she is rocking VIP all night long and doesn't want to take a chance on missing out on a VIP sale if she's tied up doing a couple of $20 dances for a guy.
This is just another decision that dancers make every night at work based on what works for them. In another thread the debate is about whether or not to give discounts on slow nights or at all. These are all personal business decisions but the absolute last person who has any business deciding how a dancer should make her money is a customer...
I had an ex years ago who would say that to customers she considered to be a poor ROI on her time. Completely valid approach, given her earnings record.
^^^ what's a ROI?
Return On Investment
Ah. Thanks
She's just trying to brand herself as " VIP only " . Maybe I'll try this one night. I've done something a little similar ( three dance minimums when it's busy ) , but have never had the balls to go for only CR's the whole night.
I have also been known to fib about stage. Most places I go, we do have to go onstage, but I'll say " Oh I just went and so I won't be up for another couple hours " to encourage them to not wait on dances.
What? People do dances outside of the V.I.P.?
What is this stripper world coming to?
Ive been trying this approach lately and it seems to be working. Youre kind of making them get antsy and creating the vision of someone being unattainable can work to your advantage.