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I've never considered that rude. In fact I used to love when guys would come up and ask for dances.
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Even if they are interupting your conversation? I guess in a normal bar that would be rude but its ok in the SC? I try not to be rude, lol.
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Most dancers welcome the interruption to make money.
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Kellydancer
Most dancers welcome the interruption to make money.
lol..Makes sense. Thanks for your input, appreciate it.
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I've had guys to this. You generally need to be slick about this because it can be uncomfortable. Go & tell her you'd like dances, point to where you are sitting, & ask her to come see you when she finishes her conversation. This gives the dancer a chance to "close out" her conversation so she can return to the customer later.
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I've had guys to this. You generally need to be slick about this because it can be uncomfortable. Go & tell her you'd like dances, point to where you are sitting, & ask her to come see you when she finishes her conversation. This gives the dancer a chance to "close out" her conversation so she can return to the customer later.
Thank you that's a very good idea.. ill try it next time :)
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it's totally fine. kylea's suggestion is probably the best way to go about it.
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Go for it and join in the conversation. A customer goes in there and in a way, he can pick any dancer, he wants, so I believe its OK ask her even though she is with a customer, after all its their job to dance (even though we're allowed to say no).
This happened to me 3 times, I was sitting with those customers for 10mins, our conversation was enjoyable, but I wasnt sure about them, so when those other guys came up to me, I went right ahead, if I didnt I would loose out on money, the guy I left has a chance after if he wanted. Money should never be missed out. There are girls Ive known to say "no" if that ever happens, its usually her regular.
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I don't mind at all when that happens. Just be polite and say "excuse me I don't mean to interrupt, but when you're finished I'd love to do some dances. I'm settling over there.".
The only way shed say no is if she was in the process of selling a block of her time or VIP/CR. Or if you were wearing sweatpants.
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4everresolutions
I don't mind at all when that happens. Just be polite and say "excuse me I don't mean to interrupt, but when you're finished I'd love to do some dances. I'm settling over there.".
The only way shed say no is if she was in the process of selling a block of her time or VIP/CR. Or if you were wearing sweatpants.
Do guys seriously rock sweatpants to strip clubs? I always thought that was just a joke.. the whole "Sweatpants Boner Guy.." you're telling me that actually happens? haha! Some weirdos out there ey
Thanks for all the input everyone i appreciate it, im new to the strip club scene and pretty young.. the first few times i made some mistakes, maybe asking the wrong questions that dancers find annoying (nothing too personal..) or not tipping right but coming here and reading what you guys have to say has really helped me out in being a better customer and helps me be more respectful and definitely brings into light the shit you guys have to deal with at your job. again thanks for the help
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Do guys seriously rock sweatpants to strip clubs? I always thought that was just a joke.. the whole "Sweatpants Boner Guy.." you're telling me that actually happens? haha! Some weirdos out there ey
Yes, or worse yet they'll wear those really thin shorts or pants that guys often wear to play basketball in... the kind with the tiny holes in them.
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OK, I know this isn't going to be a popular opinion among the ladies but, honestly, if I just met you and I'm chatting with you at the bar trying to decide if I'm going to buy dances the last thing I want is some other guy interrupting us. If you leave with him don't plan on coming back to me to try and get the $100 to $200 I was going to spend on you.
Call me old school, or just old, but interrupting is not polite. If I want to get a dancer's attention do it when she is on stage or when she is alone. Don't walk up to her when she is talking to another customer.
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OK, I know this isn't going to be a popular opinion among the ladies but, honestly, if I just met you and I'm chatting with you at the bar trying to decide if I'm going to buy dances the last thing I want is some other guy interrupting us.
You are right, it's not going to be a popular opinion around here. If you don't like a guy offering the dancer you are talking to dances up front, then hopefully you will take the initiative to get to the chase on dances... rather than talking a lot & trying to decide.
I enjoy talking to people, but sometimes customers who are indecisive can waste too much time. I know this isn't true of some dancers, but often if I get a customer who really wants to talk I could have sold a slew of dances in the amount of time that it takes him to figure out what he wants. That means even if he has $100 or $200 to spend I could have found more money in the room faster. I've said this before, but just because a person has money in their pocket does not mean they plan to spend it. I could easily make that same amount off multiple guys with less money but faster sales.
Until the customer I'm talking to has put money in my hand then I have no commitment to him. If I "close out" the conversation I am being nice/curteous to someone who isn't spending money, versus just walking away & taking the dances. Closing a conversation with a customer in a way that allows the dancer to return is pretty much an art of it's own, & not something the customer is likely to notice. Generally if I am talking to customer A & customer B comes over I will say "I'm speaking to this gentlemen right here, but as soon as I am finished I will come visit with you". It lets customer A know that he is still my first priority, at which point I can continue my sales pitch or close the conversation gracefully. However, if I make another sales pitch & customer A doesn't accept my offer, he should realize it's business & expect that I would move along in a timely manner to customer B.
While customers coming up can be uncomfortable, I actually appreciate them doing it. Sometimes it "lights the fire" under a customer who wants to play games & lets him know I have other customers waiting. At other times it could be just what I need to help me schedule which customer I am going to next, which is useful if the time between stage sets is long.
I will say though that I've had customers do this & I've literally had to tell them that I had something like 5 guys ahead of them. That happens more often than you would think! At times it can be frustrating, especially if you don't remember what the person looked like. If I had them point me to where they are sitting though I will usually recognize them or can find them.
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Whether it's polite or not, I definitely won't begrudge a dancer for taking a sale while I'm still deciding. Nothing is personal in a SC. I practice "live and let live" - the dancer isn't my girlfriend or my mother and she can do what she likes with her time. I also don't like to stop people from making money, which for strippers can be hard. Sometimes they have a fixed stage schedule and have to fit LDs between sets, so they don't have time to mess about.
It's a case of either I want a LD with a given dancer or I don't. I don't go to SCs for company, I go for LDs and stage shows. Conversation with strippers can be interesting, but it's not what they or I are there for. I can talk to them during the LD or else tip them for extended convo out on the floor.
If I were just chatting to a dancer and another guy came over and asked for an LD, I wouldn't have anything to complain about, even if I were considering one myself. Though I might like a chance to decide on the spot whether I want to go before him. But if the other guy wants one and I don't know if I do, no problem - she's there to dance, not talk.
I had one dancer tell me she had 3 or 4 customers ahead of me. The only problem was I had to leave before she got through them. Also she took her time even getting to the first one, since she went over and hustled some guy before going to her first booking. Apparently she could afford to keep customers waiting. At the rate she was able to book sales, she probably had guys queued up all night. She was easily the hottest girl in the club that night. The hottest I'd seen at any club for a long time. It was me who missed out lol, definitely not her. That girl must have been rolling in dough.
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I had one dancer tell me she had 3 or 4 customers ahead of me. The only problem was I had to leave before she got through them. Also she took her time even getting to the first one, since she went over and hustled some guy before going to her first booking. Apparently she could afford to keep customers waiting. At the rate she was able to book sales, she probably had guys queued up all night. She was easily the hottest girl in the club that night. The hottest I'd seen at any club for a long time. It was me who missed out lol, definitely not her. That girl must have been rolling in dough.
Exactly! That happens to me a lot. I'll get a line of them & sometimes don't get through them all before someone in my "line" leaves. Unless they have some incentive to be bumped ahead in line (champagne room versus lap dance) then money is money, & as long as I'm staying busy with good customers then I'm happy. However, when I get lines like that customers who don't behave I am far less tolerant with, because I know I have other good customers waiting. I have kicked guys out of the dance booth on multiple occasions because they did something they weren't supposed to. While I generally have a "three strikes & you are out" rule for many things, during busy nights it's more like a "two strikes" rule or "one strike" if I can tell right away that they are going to be a pain. I try to keep good customers waiting for the least amount of time possible.
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Please do interrupt me!!!! I love when customers jsut cut the bs and ask for dances... makes my job much easier and I make sure to give a hell of a good LD.
As far as you are nice and polite hwen interrupting the conversation, I am all for it:)
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I agree w/ yoda. Approaching a dancer when she is with a customer is usually not appropriate, unless it's done very delicately & with some class, which (unfortunately) rarely happens. Usually it's done quite rudely, with no regard that you are sitting there, in conversation, with the young lady.
Happens to me alot. Since I'm female, guys assume that the dancer talking with me is a friend, so they think nothing of rudely interrupting and asking for dances. Pisses me the hell off. I would never think to approach a dancer when she is with someone else, and I expect the same amount of respect. Last guy that did it almost wound up with a bloody nose >:(.
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you may interupt me at anytime ;-)
you could always send over your waitress (any other employee really)
wish there were more customers like you!!!
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Lots of good advice in here, i was also thinking maybe if she's drinking something have the waitress refill her and to tell her its from me or like T.T.S said just get her attenion when she can, seems a little less intrusive
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You are right, it's not going to be a popular opinion around here. If you don't like a guy offering the dancer you are talking to dances up front, then hopefully you will take the initiative to get to the chase on dances... rather than talking a lot & trying to decide.
LOL, yeah, I knew that when I posted it. Lets be clear however. I am not a time waster. The ball is however in the dancer's court when it comes to this sort of thing. If I invited her to sit down I'm already interested, all she has to do is close the deal. If she invites herself to sit down it's on her to pique my interest and do the asking. In other words, make the sale. If the lady has no game and doesn't know when to to either ask or leave that's not really my problem. Yes, there are guys who will bend your ear all night, stall when you ask and get all whiny when you try to extricate yourself from their PL grasp. I understand all that.
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You are right, it's not going to be a popular opinion around here. If you don't like a guy offering the dancer you are talking to dances up front, then hopefully you will take the initiative to get to the chase on dances... rather than talking a lot & trying to decide.
Kylea, I agree with you on most things but you are off in left field on this one. First off, a guy stepping in trying to to fucko another guy especially considering the the atmosphere is an idiot. yoda kind of chuckled this off (to keep the peace I imagine). So you are saying that a man like yoda (and others of us by extension) who has spent tens of thousands over time in strip clubs must immediately get to the chase for fear that some kid living in his mothers basement with his $100 once a year trip to the club might steal you away?
I know you are a professional and all that but if it gets to the point where a well heeled customer cannot enjoy 10-15 minutes of chat and flirtations before emptying his bankroll...well that is sad.
FBR
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^ I wouldnt leave customer A right away. In the OP, it was asked if it was alright to approach a dancer who was sitting with a customer AFTER 10 to 15 had passed.
Say customer B comes around after I had already been chatting with custy A for 15 minutes. I tell Custy B that I'm chatting with/enjoying the company of another gentleman at the moment, and I'll come find him when I'm finished. I stay with customer A for another song or two (say 5 minutes), and in that time try to close the sale. If he says no, or that he's not ready yet, what else is a dancer supposed to do? After spending 20 minutes with the first customer, I can only assume he's not interested, and move on to one that I know for a fact IS. I'm always polite abou it though, and I always come back to check on that first customer later, if I have the time.
And really, if you can't decide if you like a dancer after 15 to 20 minutes, then you probably just don't like her.
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I know you are a professional and all that but if it gets to the point where a well heeled customer cannot enjoy 10-15 minutes of chat and flirtations before emptying his bankroll...well that is sad.
Bingo! I don't go to clubs to blow my wad (cash, that is) and run. I spend a little time but I also spend generously. Honestly, I don't meet a lot of new dancers and the responses here are part of the reason why. My favs are all among the top earners in their respective clubs and they do it by taking their time while cultivating and pleasing regulars and taking advantage of target opportunities all at the same time. Every dancer has a different way of working and I realized a long time ago that I am attracted to a certain type of dancer.
Honestly, the opinions here are running just about the way one would expect among dancers and customers. My primary reason for jumping in to this thread was to give the OP an opinion from the guy that he might be cutting-in on and perhaps a taste of how he might feel if someone did it to him.
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Say customer B comes around after I had already been chatting with custy A for 15 minutes. I tell Custy B that I'm chatting with/enjoying the company of another gentleman at the moment, and I'll come find him when I'm finished. I stay with customer A for another song or two (say 5 minutes), and in that time try to close the sale. If he says no, or that he's not ready yet, what else is a dancer supposed to do? After spending 20 minutes with the first customer, I can inky assume he's not interested, and move on to one that I know for a fact IS.
Sounds like the perfect way to handle things to me...:thumbsup::)