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" I'm having so much fun sitting and talking with you but I have to make some $$$, let's finish our convo in VIP where I can take my clothes off for you. You would like to see that right?"
He will either 1. take you to VIP 2.Decline but get some tabledances on the floor, or 3. say he doesn't want dances but will tip you for continuing to sit with him.
If he does none of these 3 things GET UP and LEAVE. He is wasting your time
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never ever ever sit with someone for more than 3 songs unless its super dead or you have a feeling they will take you to VIP. Pure's line is great too!
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This is a SALES job...not a dancing job, so start reading up on some basic sales strategies to get him to say yes.
I've written several free articles on the subject, here are two of them:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Become-a-S...ide&id=5034568
http://ezinearticles.com/?Stripper-S...Yes&id=5034547
Being able to identify timewasters is another skill you will learn over time.
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don't talk to them for so long. don't be so smart and nice and flirty. act like you're a stupid, soulless, greedy stripper who isn't capable of doing anything else with her life.
these guys are stupid, and they go to the club with certain expectations. if you defy those expectations, you are "too good for this". if you seem like girlfriend material, they will want you to be their girlfriend. pretty simple stuff.
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Agreed on the not sitting with them for so long. You can't just hang out with a customer for almost an hour for free and then expect them to want to pay you for your company - they just got so much without giving you a penny. As a general rule, I sit and talk for 2-3 songs and then pop the question. Sometimes, if it's very slow and I have a good feeling or the guy is finishing up a drink, I'll wait a little bit longer, but never 30-45 minutes. Time is money, and I don't want to be stuck sitting around with some cheapskate when a spender walks in the door.
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I really agree with not sitting more than 3 songs.. usually I go one or two. I go for three whole songs if it is a regular customer that I know comes in every day. I think it is worth it to invest a little extra time on someone that comes in daily.. just think it is worth it to make them feel special since they pay our bills.
I've been dancing for a few months and this site has really helped me.. especially Hustle Hut.. so I recommend keep reading and testing new lines. I have had some of the same problems that you mention with guys wanting to date me/talk too much but I found when I walk away from a guy and go dance or flirt with another guy it usually makes them want to dance with me more and finally start to spend money on me.. even take me off of the floor to a private room.
Don't give up. I'm ok at carrying on an intelligent conversation and I've started to attract regulars that come in every week at the same time to buy me a drink, get 4 dances and get to hear one of my crazy stories/jokes.. and then they leave after they spend the money. I figure they know they have exactly 100 dollars to spend and they are going to spend it on me because I take the time to talk to them and it is becoming something that I can count on the more and more regulars I attract. I have one guy that says I am his alternative to a therapist because I make him feel so good. I give him a lot of hugs and smiles.. sometimes I think it is more about having a woman that is pretty and nurturing. You never know which guy might turn out to be like that guy. I think it is great to make a connection with someone.. they have to understand that this is playtime/fantasy time that only takes place in the club under the special alchemical club lights. ;)
Other guys really like to talk dirty and they are all talk.. when they dance they just want to say nasty things and the dances are very low contact.. and they will keep buying dances just so they can say nasty stuff and maybe hear you repeat the nasty stuff.. that is their fantasy and why they are there so don't be afraid of your intelligence.. I'm finding that I've had to channel it in new ways. :P
I'm taking the time to write this because I do think that it is sometimes worth it to talk well with customers and you might lose business if you don't talk a little.. but I think it is best if you can try to control the conversation and move on after a few songs.
Good luck.. be patient with yourself. Sounds like you are still finding your own style.
xoxo,
Anahata
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If you're with a guy for 30 mins. to an hour and not making any money you're acting like it's okay that he not spend on you.
Keep in the forefront that you're supposed to be getting paid to do this at all times.
Personally I think you're being to laid back and that is ok too. Just remember to bring up the topic of dancing and getting paid for it.
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Originally Posted by
Pure
" I'm having so much fun sitting and talking with you but I have to make some $$$, let's finish our convo in VIP where I can take my clothes off for you. You would like to see that right?"
He will either 1. take you to VIP 2.Decline but get some tabledances on the floor, or 3. say he doesn't want dances but will tip you for continuing to sit with him.
If he does none of these 3 things GET UP and LEAVE. He is wasting your time
This sounds like pretty good advice to me short and to the point.
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This will come with time..Be a little more ruthless! And have an idea in mind of where the conversation is going at all times - have a few lines up your sleeve to bring the conversation around to the sale, and make sure that they are practiced and just roll off your tongue..some of my favorites for conversations and lines are:
Have you been here before? (this can lead into how fantastic the club is, work him into a good mood, and then ask if he knows "how it all works" - if he does, you can ask for a dance, if he doesn't, you can explain)
No fair! I'm having so much fun talking with you I almost forgot that I should be getting naked! (turns from ANY conversation into a dance)
You can also look around guiltily, and then interrupt him with "I'm loving talking to you and I'm so sorry to interrupt, but I'm not really supposed to sit here for more than 15mins without a dance...why don;t we go to VIP where we don't have to worry about people watching us?"
Good luck!
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You definitely sound just like me when I first started.
The guys always said stuff like 'what's a nice girl doing in a place like this?' I think it had a bit to do with how young I was... It's been said before, trying to be some insane sex goddess when you're not is just going to make you uncomfortable, but a little bit of improvement will go a long way!
First target guys who you know you'll do good with - probably middle aged guys who go for the 'nice girl' thing more. Alter your persona for the more young party types.
I agree with everyone else, don't sit there longer than you should.
Don't act like you're on a date; many have to deal with that with their girlfriend or whatever. They want a girl who will distract them from that. Instead, just pretend like you're trying to get in the guy's pants . Again I agree with the above posters, like "I'm naked and you just want to sit and talk? Nonsense!" And never, ever be afraid to ask for a dance, if they say no it's a good excuse to go find someone who does want one.
Save the intelligent conversation for when you get some respectable regulars. But remember even OTC looks and sex appeal are the first thing that attracts a man and use this mentality ITC. You're there to make money, not have conversation. Just be a little more aggressive, they won't bite (er, usually).
Actually I have one more thing to add: I think people get too caught up in their internal conflict and forget to put themselves in the customer's shoes. If you're a customer you're there because: I had a long week, I have a bachelor party/birthday to attend, I'm bored/lonely. They want a place to forget about reality for awhile, and even the smartest of men are simple when boobs are involved. If you're too real, chances are you won't make as much.
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All this is great im new to this site. Would like to post a new thread how do I do this. Im a new dancer and i would like to know how some huela make forty dances a night every nite. What do they say to the customers to buy so many lapdances.
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This is an easy one. Just like everyone else said, you are sitting to long.
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I was the same way- I would talk to guys forever and always get asked out and leave with no money... after a few nights of going home empty handed I quickly learned to get to the point and when guys are trying to get a date remind them you have bills to pay... Don't treat it like a date treat it like a job... Girls that work the floor always make more money bc there is more potential... and you have to get your lines down- I usually go with the I'm cold angle and dancing warms me up- and when I'm trying to sell a VIP after they agree to a couch dance I say "but I have so many tricks one song just won't be enough" just try out stuff and learn what works for you
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When guys try asking for a date I'll just dumb my act down so it seems like I didn't even here him and say with a big smile "Lets go play in the back room!!" and that usually works. If he stalls, consider him a timewaster and move on. "You're fun but I have to go" There are more wallets in the club to attack.
Have a goal, say 5 dances per hour. It will keep you buzzing along through the night, before you know it, you'll have cash.
Also, it is a sales job. May I suggest visiting your local bookstore, buy a starbucks, and curl up with a few books on sales. keep a few tips in mind and remember them while you're at work, it will pay off big time.