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Custy's who ask for dates and don't take no for an answer
I have been dancing for about 5 months now in total. I have gotten better with the hustle thanks in part to great advice on this site; a lot more VIP rooms lately mostly because I ask for the business.
The customers have been great for the most part but about 90% of them ask to date me out of the club. When this first started, I just said, I don't date outside the club. Most of them continue to come back and are relentless in asking me out. Since, I'm married, I just won't do it. So recently, I started saying, I'm in relationship and I don't date. I figure, if I lose their business, I lose their business. Most of their responses are, well I will wear you out over time.
Now natuarally I want their repeat business; especially at $300/hour for VIP plus tips. I also don't want to give the impression that I will date them out of the club. A friend suggested I don't say I'm in a relationship, but rather, "I only pay at the club." How do you all handle these situations and what tact has been most successful for you without losing the business. Bear in mind, my marriage is of paramount importance and I will not compromise it with OTC.
I appreciate your reply to this...
Brooke XOXOXO
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Re: Custy's who ask for dates and don't take no for an answer
I've always just told men I need to get to know them for awhile. This helped most of them because they often think they are special by me saying this.
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^ that's a good one.
You could also try telling them you're a lesbian.
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I tell them that if they have a bigger dick than my boyfriend I'll fuck them for free, :D
They slink out of the club in humiliation.
I also tell them that I fuck for fun not for money, and they don't look like much fun.
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Make yourself look busy as possible... second job, school on the side, travelling a lot etc. This why you cannot take OTC.
Tell them you want to see them as much as often, but due to your busy days, you cannot wait to see them again in the club where you're all dolled up.
Always drag time, "I love my time with you HERE, Im so busy my only enjoyable time is here, I recently went through a hard relationship that I need time, maybe after sometime we get to know each other better here.." etc
Dont tell me your relatiosnhip status, tell them you're super busy to date, or you're a lesbain, either choice you pick, have a back-up "fake" story so your customers want to see you more but know they cant OTC.
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I hate dealing with this issue. I am probably going to have to deal with my pain in the ass regular tomorrow. My experience is to never give an inch because as soon as you give an inch they will start working you harder. Giving an inch = emailing or talking on the phone. Bleh.
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Kisca
Dont tell me your relatiosnhip status.
This is the #1 rule, which I have used for years. Customers don't normally ask time after time if you are obscure about your relationship status. If they ask you say:
"I don't share my relationship status. If I tell you I'm in a relationship then customers lose interest, & if I tell them I'm not in a relationship then they just want to date... so I don't tell you anything!" (Big smile & a wink) "After all, a girl has to have at least one good secret."
With where you are at now, you are going to have to keep telling them "no", & eventually they will either stop or you will lose a few. Don't worry too much about it though, there are plenty of other customers. If all they want is to date then you wouldn't have made much money off of them in the long run anyhow.
You can also tell them you aren't interested in dating customers because it's not fair to the other dancers to be taking away potential customers from the club, & that you could get fired if anyone finds out... then say someone "ALWAYS" finds out - which is pretty true. Depending on the laws in your state, you could also say that you don't want to put yourself at legal risk of getting a ticket.
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have you introduced them to the blue side of sw?
LOL
Just stand your ground and say no. If they become irritating inform management and have them 86'd.
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I tell them flat out that they are perverts and I only want their money....
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There are always some regulars who "get it" that you exist as a fantasy inside the club. I have had these types of customers for years. Then there are the ones who straight up ask you to go outside of the club the first time you dance for them. They forget that this is a fantasy. I am able to keep those coming back until they finally get frustrated and move on. These types of customers will always "expire" there is nothing you can really do. I know the money is good, but in the end if it comes down to seeing them outside of the club to keep them as a customer, then that isn't going to work. I know a lot of girls who do, even when they are in relationships! I hate when a customer who I used to dance for says "I'm waiting on so and so because she goes out with me." I just move on and make money somewhere else. You have to accept that you'll lose customers to some other dancer willing to do things that you won't.
~Chili
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It's so frustrating at times. }:D. I want to tell them, hey, just give me your fucking money so I can go home and forget about this place until it's time to work again. Thanks for your suggestions!
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I get this all.the.fucking.time. I've tried the "i have to get to know you better first..we just met.." ive tried the "well im sorta seeing someone..not super serious but wouldnt feel comfortable.." and my favorite "this isn't a chinese restaurant and we DONT do take out here :D" lol. Usually I find that custies that ask this, don't end up spending much, though I have seen some that do..they're huge energy eaters and drive you nuts. I still really havent found a good reply to them. Its mostly useless, and I ignore their question.
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LOL...I love the Chinese restaurant line. Good one!!!
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Hehe its my favorite. I learned it on here and is very effective with getting them to STFU:D
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I usually tell them I'd have to get to know you better as in the VIP room!
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Re: Custy's who ask for dates and don't take no for an answer
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Originally Posted by
sunshine16
"this isn't a chinese restaurant and we DONT do take out here :D"
I use that exact same line if I have them in for a private dance & they try to offer me money for OTC activities.
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Maybe it was you I learned it from lol! I know it was someone on here. I actually do use that for the offering other things too, but when I'm really pissed off and just had it with the "im not going to spend money but ask u on a date instead" crowd, i'll use it then too.
I'd love to learn a way to let them know you only want to have fun with them IN the club, and just get it through to them that no, i wont go to dinner, have sex, or otherwise see you anywhere but at WORK..whenever I mention 'lets get to know each other better' its always answered with 'well thats why i want to take u out for dinner/drinks/we cant get to know each other in a place like this" etc. Sigh.
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Oh i like the 'lets start with a dance ' first line. And then move into the other one..hehe, love the "i dont date cheap asses" (eh, my take on it anyway hehe)
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It helps me to remember that not every guy who asks a stripper to hang out with him actually wants this to happen--it's just a fantasy. So I pretend that ALL of my customers are like this. They don't reaalllly want to hang out with me, they just want to act like they do.
So I do the exact same thing in return. I act like I reaaaalllly want to hang out with them, but we just caaan't...YET! I'm just too shy, I don't know you well enough, we need to get to know each other, my 'boss' would find out, etc. Your job is to keep this fantasy alive while continuing to sell. Pretend to consider the offer, provide resistance from an external source, and use this to leverage your sales. I don't condone lying, but strip clubs are all about the fantasy.
This mentality is helpful because it shifts your consciousness from viewing your customer as a pathetic guy looking for cheap sex into viewing him as someone who's just playing a game.
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I sadly treat this like I treat the people outside of the club.. "I don't go out with strangers." It kills the one night stands outside but get the ones in the clubs to try alittle harder. Next I say just cause I know your name doesn't mean we are not strangers, maybe we are talk more in vip where its quiet and no one is around to interrupt.
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i bullshit them with different lines
but when they really really dont take no for an answer and stopped spending i just say sorry im a lesbian. i only like girls. only interested in pussy. thats why you work here.
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Originally Posted by
charlie61
It helps me to remember that not every guy who asks a stripper to hang out with him actually wants this to happen--it's just a fantasy. So I pretend that ALL of my customers are like this. They don't reaalllly want to hang out with me, they just want to act like they do.
So I do the exact same thing in return. I act like I reaaaalllly want to hang out with them, but we just caaan't...YET! I'm just too shy, I don't know you well enough, we need to get to know each other, my 'boss' would find out, etc. Your job is to keep this fantasy alive while continuing to sell. Pretend to consider the offer, provide resistance from an external source, and use this to leverage your sales. I don't condone lying, but strip clubs are all about the fantasy.
This mentality is helpful because it shifts your consciousness from viewing your customer as a pathetic guy looking for cheap sex into viewing him as someone who's just playing a game.
This is awesome!! It totally worked today :D thank you!!
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I tell customers, "Sorry, but I've got a boyfriend" then they say "well can't we be friends, let me get your number" and I reply "This is a weird place to make friends and besides, I don't want girls giving their number to my boyfriend so they can be 'friends' so I have to do the same" then they say "well he's a lucky guy." They usually respect my honesty. If a guy keeps bugging me and saying "well he doesn't have to know" or something ignorant like that, then that shows he's an asshole and I don't want to waste my time with him anyway. I have "regulars" that know my situation and I don't lose money from them knowing I've got a boyfriend. In fact, I would go as far to say that I've never lost money from telling somebody that I've got a boyfriend. I've just lost a possible 10 minute conversation of some loser trying to talk his way into my pants.
I see no need to lie to the custys.