I feel like my dances are pretty boring, I don't get very many repeat ones. I noticed that girls who are really energetic and crazy while they dance for the guy always get repeat although to me that doesn't look very sexy... what do you think?
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I feel like my dances are pretty boring, I don't get very many repeat ones. I noticed that girls who are really energetic and crazy while they dance for the guy always get repeat although to me that doesn't look very sexy... what do you think?
my dances are varied based on the customer. if he seems the type who just wants the kitty in his face all night, you better believe i'm doin a handstand between his legs. i don't like those type of dances, but you gotta do what makes you money. if its an older gentleman or more of a sweety, i do more of a pin-up style striptease ld. it's my favorite kind, but its still never a lazy dance. i put a lot of effort into each one so i can keep getting repeat dances. oh, and the striptease style helps because if i'm not completely naked by the time the song ends they will ALWAYS agree to more!!
My suggestion is to go out with some other friends, particularly male friends, & get lap dances (as a couple with the male friends) so you can see what the girls do.
I don't do acrobatics, we are there to entertain through conversation & striptease, not acrobatics. If they want that, they can go find another dancer. There are plenty of gentlemen in the clubs who will pay you well without. It depends on what you want to do, but I've turned down $500+ dollars from customers who wanted this sort of thing. Yes, I could have taken it, & funny enough these guys will probably find someone in the club to do this for $20/$25 whatever... that's not what I am into though & if that's what they want I'd rather they go find some girl who thinks its amusing - I don't see anything sexy or amusing about it though so I will not do it.
A good portion of the time making it back to the private room has more to do with sales skills than anything else, however getting multiple dances is a smaller portion of sales skills & a larger portion of dance & conversation skills. One HUGE thing though is to try to sell blocks of dances upfront, usually 3 or 4 at a time. If they only want 1 dance then you will need to ask if they want to keep going. For this you can use lines like:
- I love dancing for you! You want me to keep going, yes?
- Keep going?
- You want another one, right?
If he says "Yes", a technique many girls use is to say "Tell me when you want me to stop" which allows you to not have to confirm with the customer between songs that they want another dance. However, sometimes the dancer/customer/both will lose track, so many girl say "This will be our # dance", in between each dance.
I make mine more interesting by being really flirtatious, breathing/moaning in his ear, making lots of eye contact, and adding a new move with each song. I also try to talk with him a little while I'm dancing, and say stuff like "I love your cologne," or "You're a naughty boy, I can tell." I prefer doing the slow, sensual thing... Some guys DO want you to be wild and crazy, but when that happens I just go with it & laugh, and use the same moves in a more lively way, maybe with more raunchy stuff like smacking my booty or shaking my boobs. The guys who want that kind of a dance usually make it obvious, though -- I think the majority of men there (esp. the ones who come alone) like it slow & sexy.
Haha, the other day another dancer said to me, "Your stage show is so boring, you must be wild in VIP, cause I see you making crazy money in there!"
Lol, no. My dances are just as "boring", but I make a lot of sexy eye contact, and make the customer believe that I'm really into them. Just a lot of closeness, slow movement, and acting like I'm having a great time.
Sometimes I'd like to try the distant, crazy moves, more air-dancy type of dance, but it just doesn't come naturally to me. I'd say don't worry about your style so much, but do what comes naturally and make it clear that you're having a great time with the guy.
I will ask every 2 or 3 songs if they want to keep going: I feel like $40 or $60 isn't thaaaat much money that it will be breaking someone's bank so if they can't be bothered to keep track, its their fault for not asking me to stop. Other than that, you can keep it interesting by varying your style, maybe dance a bit faster for one song, then slower for the next, focus on showing off your breasts, then your butt, touch their face, sit on their lap (if you're allowed), turn around, show off your legs, hair flips, lean in to ALMOST kiss them/bump noses & giggle/smile (that's one that most guys love, and I use a lot IF the guy is on good behaviour and doesn't try to smooch me), massage their shoulders, touch their leg. What contact level does your club allow?
Its funny you mention this. Depending on local laws, I actually come off the stage a lot & into the crowd, which seems to attract a lot of attention along with my style of music. When I interact with the crowd I'm not raunchy, but I'm very flirtatious & tend to really work the 40's pin-up moves. If you watch this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNGgu...eature=related
0:16 I will come off the stage & do that to members of the audience
0:23-25 I will pick someone toward the end of the audience & do that move
There's some other moves that I do, & they really shouldn't be hard to find on YouTube, but for the life of me I can't seem to find examples.
I think though that a lot of dancers get stuck in what they see other girls doing. They need to get out a bit more & challenge themselves to be more creative.
I didnt read the replies.. What I used to do was.. not take off my clothes within the first song. It took 3-4 songs to get me fully nude (nude clubs here) longer depending on some customers. Sure they would complain but its MY rules.. I would say " but soon enough I;ll take off my underwear *wink*" That gets me another song.
Usually repeated moves are common... Use your hair, a different angle, a different side of your body, a random move (bending over, leaning over them, placing their hands, messaging their neck/back) at different songs.. Since clubs are high contact here, I usallly grind them a little or pretend I am about to take something off(but take waayyy longer) as soon as the song is about to be over, when I DO ASK if they want another song.
I stopped doing that and told ahead of dances "Do you like getting LD's? ... Oh? great.. Im sure you'll love mine, I'll stop you every 5" If you dont like doing that, I noticed "sex" or tease faces worked a lot for me, right before the song ends, make a very teasing face and get close to them and in their ear say something like "this is number .. " or "im having fun.. lets continue"
I wish this would fly in my club/area, but it's expected that you're nude by the end of the song since it's supposed to be a nude lap dance. I've had customers try and pull off my clothes within the first 30 seconds of a song, and I tend to take my time taking it all off to maintain the tease for as long as possible.
Back to the OP, I'd say my dances are pretty boring and not all that "exciting" along the same line as Sia's. I'm all about the eye contact, closeness, and feigning intimacy. I don't do a whole lot, but I'll stroke their face, run my hands through their hair, massage their back/shoulders, and do the same thing over and over again. I find most customers just want that closeness, and I have a lot who just hug me for the whole song, or who comment on how cuddly I am and go on to get long strings of dances.
I wouldn't worry too much about giving "exciting" dances, so much as trying to switch things up a bit every so often in the dance, moving verrrrry slowly to drag your moves out, and making the customer feel close to you. If they think you WANT to be dancing for them and are enjoying yourself, then they'll likely want you to keep going.
Do they actually ENFORCE the nude lap dance rule at your club? All the clubs I've worked at don't care how long you take to take everything off, basically its up to you, even though, if you asked, the management would tell you that you're supposed to be naked by the end of the song. As long as you don't get heck for it I might try extending the stripping, like, top off at end or at very least 1/2 way through the 1st song, then 2'nd song don't take anything off, then 3rd song take your skirt off, 4th song panties. No one sees my coochie for less than 3 songs unless they're an asshole and are, like you said, pulling my clothes off, and in that case they're probably getting a shitty dance anyways because I won't like them very much!
I noticed I get the most repeat dances when at the end of the song I DON'T stop dancing. grind hard towards the end of the song and when the song ends grind idly on his lap and be like "wanna do another one?" and touch your boobs and smile and nod. don't get off his lap when the song is over, act like you WANT to keep going
also it helps if you get your money at the END. don't make him stand up, grab his wallet, and pay between songs. a guy will take any pause as an opportunity to stop so don't stop dancing while he's deciding if he wants another one and if he says yes just say "ok great" and keep dancing.
^I've rarely had problems keeping bottoms on until I want them to come off, around song 3 or 4, I feel like it keeps the customer interested, to draw it out longer, but that's just my style, everyone's is different. IF a customer is very insistive of me being totally nude, yes I will oblige, I just prefer to draw it out as long as possible; its a style that's worked for me as long as I've been dancing. And you are topless for half of the song...and topless usually satisfies enough to keep them occupied for a few songs...its not like you're wearing granny panties and everything down there is totally concealed either! I think it depends on your style, I focus on my breasts a lot more than down there, lap dancing is all about your comfort level, and I'm not comfortable taking off my bottoms before the third song: I don't think its "worth it", but that varies for each dancer.
Some girls just jump right on the customers lap as soon as the song begins. Getting too close to the customer right off the bat isn't seductive or sexy. Remember, men are visual. They picked you to dance for them because they think you are beautiful and want to see your body, your face, and you slowly removing your outfit. If you jump right on their lap you have skipped some very important steps. You are leaving nothing to the imagination and you are not making it fun.
A customer told me one that the difference between one dance and many is that the girl leaves him wanting more with each dance. I am not a grinder. I don't allow customers to grab my hips and move me up and down on their hardons. I seduce, and this process is slow and sexy. Even the slightest touches on the customer's neck, ears, arms when you first begin is seductive. Look into their eyes, make it slow, try and enjoy yourself and you will really begin to see a difference between someone who buys one dance, and someone who buys many.
I guess I'd just feel like I was ripping them off if I wasn't fully nude by the end of the song, just because I'd probably feel ripped off if I were in their shoes.
I'm not sure how much it's enforced at my club, but it's kind of expected in the area that you'll be nude by the end of the song since it's supposed to be a nude lap dance. There's been the odd time where I've overestimated the length of the song and it ends up being much shorter and my bottoms are still on and I didn't receive any complaints, but I didn't do it on purpose.
My pussy is never the focal point of my dances, and dudes never actually get a good look at it (I definitely draw attention to my boobs more), so they may not even notice if my g-string were still on, I guess.
How do you handle it if they get get angry that you didn't take everything off by the end of song 1?
Eye contact and touching myself(letting my hands run up and down my body). Also, not taking my top off right away....
The guys I've had never got angry at me. Guys would pull down my underwear within the first song and I would pull them up sexy and say something like "Thats song 2 or 3, *smile*.. Im keeping the excitment till the next song" etc. Usually they either are fine with it or just get one sosng cause they were looking for beyond my limits.
If they get confused or mad, I tell them that ^ 90% are good with it. If they arent, then I dont think its the right customer for me to dance for.. If I still want to continue and they do too, I just acting stupid and sexy with them saying "oh im sorrrryyyy... next song I promise Ill take it off". I 've only had the cheapos get mad at me for not taking everything off by song 1, usually those ask me for more and I have to fight with them with their hands. I think for me, the longer I leave it on the more respectful they are to me, so they will get a better treatment and see my fully nude unlike just a ""20$ guy"
well... those are definitely great tips but it's kinda hard to put in action in miami cause anything goes here and they sure as hell won't get a repeat if I keep my clothes on.. most clubs I dance at have dances in the open and a lot of customers don't like that. Which is also why I know exactly what other girls do. They're like crazy energetic hardcore dry humping and it works but I just don't wanna do that.. I think talking dirty is a good idea, that might make them curious for the CR too..
Are there any different clubs you can work at, or are dances the same everywhere in Miami? Because if that's the norm, customers likely expect all that humping and that's what they go in the club for, in which case it makes sense why you aren't getting repeats. If so, try and amp up the energy and maybe make it SEEM like you're grinding up on them without actually doing it.
Just be careful with talking dirty so as not to say anything that could be misconstrued as solicitation!
no... those are the ones I choose to work at for now for several reasons. I guess it's also that they can't feel relaxed cause everybody's watching them... but other girls do get more repeats and they are not hotter or "skilled" most of the time, but really slutty which I am not comfortable with... Maybe I should try to switch it up and see what reactions I get? like a case study lol
Yeah, definitely switch it up. Unfortunately, a lot of the time there's a big discrepancy between what you find hot or enjoy and what customers want. How many times have you seen a girl bank in a totally heinous outfit? Guys can have very different ideas of what's sexy than women do. As long as it doesn't cross any of your boundaries, I don't really see the big deal in sucking it up and doing it their way - it is your job to sell a fantasy (namely, theirs), after all.
I'm a big fan of slooooow and sexy - lots of stroking myself, looking deep into their eyes...at a second song, I'll show off my hood piercing, do a little heavy breathing and maybe blow in his ear...basically acting like I'm getting soooo turned on! I also start doing a little dirty talking in the second or third song.
I agree with this - I've found that as long as you don't use pronouns, you should be fine - i.e. "I love it when I'm being bent over and fucked hard...it feels soooo good" is fine (especially if you then bend over!) but saying "I wish you could fuck me/I bet you'd be really good" etc is not only solicitation of sorts, but also gives them the wrong idea - they then think you actually want to. Another way to do it is to tell stories of the wildest or best sex ever (preferably with another girl) that way you are just storytelling, and not making suggestions.
those are good tips. I've found that generally the freakier I act, the better money I make. But I'm not always up to it for some reason...
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i feel the same as you, my dances go, "one two three, four five six, slap, oh yea, seven eight, repeat." lol mundane, routine. the thing to remember is, save something diffrent in the back of your mind to do each song, make sexy flirty convo, " i see you looking at my panties" "i love it when you touch me there" "whats your favorite position?" etc... be creative, and dont feel silly being sexy flirty. and always show your having fun with him, giggle & eye contact. if hes a younger guy, pinch nipples with an "oh yea! i know you like that (and a wink)", crack jokes, be cute silly, but not super crazy energetic, those girls seem kinda spazy. if hes older, still be cute and silly, because older guys want to feel young, but simultaneously, channel your inner diva, more seductive. so in short- make convo, dont go silent once your dance starts. and always show your having fun, being cute, silly, sexy, flirty, divalicious. when the song ends, and you tell them our song is over, they will want to continue if you show that you are enjoying them as much as they are enjoying you.