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my first (hopefully last) Cb on adultwork
I had a nice long private last night with DanielYEAR on adult work. and 12 hours later i get:
01/01/2011 10:49 Credit Refund: DirectCam - DanielYEAR -33.83
01/01/2011 10:49 Credit Refund: DirectCam - DanielYEAR -1.41
fucker got a free 30 minute show of all my goodies. I'm so annoyed that guys can just cb like that and were the ones screwed in the end.
Thats my biggest one to date !
is there a blacklist or something on aw we can check out? I so dont want to go through this again. I'm sure hes probably done it before and will again.
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Re: my first (hopefully last) Cb on adultwork
Wow.
I have never ever had even one chargeback on there. I seriously thought they covered those for us.
Really irritating!
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Jeez
I never realised there were CBs on AW either :( What a dick.
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I might have missed this in another thread.. But how does someone get a CB? I thought websites look at everything in trying to not pay back..
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yes what a dick ! working for free sucks !!
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To the OP I'm sorry this happen to you. I would be upset to do 30 min private and then turn out to be a chargeback. I asked in another post about if chargebacks happens on AW and read that it haven't happen, but now know that it can still happen on AW.
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Only legit cb's can happen on AW. So in this case actual fraud was performed and of course within the law you have to give the money back. The person using the card that the credits were from was not the owner of the card.
While AW protects against all false cb's, they cannot (because its next to impossible and its wrong) protect against legit crimal activity.
On other sites the owner of the card can request a cb (illegally) and they will most likely get it. These cb's cannot happen on AW.
mfc can protect againt tips because they are gifts and gifts cannot be refunded (unless of course they arent the legal owner of the card). A gift cannot be disputted.
This is the second cb I have seen in 7-8 years with AW.
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Re: my first (hopefully last) Cb on adultwork
As this is a one-off dailypay has issued your chargeback to you.
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Originally Posted by
PrincessJenny
Only legit cb's can happen on AW. So in this case actual fraud was performed and of course within the law you have to give the money back. The person using the card that the credits were from was not the owner of the card.
While AW protects against all false cb's, they cannot (because its next to impossible and its wrong) protect against legit crimal activity.
On other sites the owner of the card can request a cb (illegally) and they will most likely get it. These cb's cannot happen on AW.
mfc can protect againt tips because they are gifts and gifts cannot be refunded (unless of course they arent the legal owner of the card). A gift cannot be disputted.
This is the second cb I have seen in 7-8 years with AW.
Thanks for explaining more about on AW views chargebacks. If a cb happens on AW now know it's because credit card fraud. It's bad that cb can possible happen but at lease it's not so often on AW like on some other camsites it happens a lot over the customer requests for refund.
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Originally Posted by
PrincessJenny
As this is a one-off dailypay has issued your chargeback to you.
thanks Jenny. I just made the post to make the girls aware of the name of the guy.
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Its ok. I didnt like the thought of knowing that you had been taken advantage of and the least I can do is pay you for the work you have done.
:hug:
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I didnt even know CB's existed on AW.... whoa!
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wow thats awful, i`m really sorry to hear about that, but please do not lose confidence in AW, it really is an awesome place and I have NEVER heard of there being a CB there before.
Thanks for naming and shaming that thieving idiot.
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Wow this is awful! I had no clue that this could happen on aw, but I guess fraud is fraud.
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Sorry that this happened, missginger, and thank you for letting us know the guy's name.
The cb issue is one of the many reasons I've decided to quit ImLive.
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The same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. Guy spent over 55 credits on me. The next day I get a charge-back... turns out he was using a stolen credit card.
It sucked. :'(
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old thread but same guy did it to me in the same day.
01/01/2011 03:28 Credit DirectCam - DanielYEAR 86.20
01/01/2011 10:51 Credit Refund: DirectCam - DanielYEAR -86.20
it s surprising that some of u had no idea that aw has cb.i had 2 so far,this one that i mentioned now made me really angry bcs that day was very busy for me and he used my time then he got his money back and aw did exactly nothing,just apologies and that was all i got.i think i had to write in this thread bcs i m still angry.
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I m not sure but I think manual escrow is when they ask their money back for a particular reason-and i think no matter if his reason is real or not aw gives his money back(i had that too from a guy that booked me -was a guy who wanted to get some pics while in session then blackmail me).I wish i knew for what reason aw gave his money back.
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Originally Posted by
laurielegs
Wow.
I have never ever had even one chargeback on there. I seriously thought they covered those for us.
Really irritating!
Nor me :O
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I dont like they can complain for any reason and get credited back. ( the escrow BS )
the day that happens to me , is the day I quit AW.
If i do a job, I need to get paid.... fuck the stupidity.
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I wouldnt get annoyed by reading other members comments which are not fact. Hear-say/gossip is not a good thing.
Manual escrow = purgatory. The client is not refunded as such. They cannot request money for any reason and get it back (just daft the thought of it).
CB's on AW is quite rare. They exist because of fraud. Auto refunds are done when the system incorrectly thinks the client didnt successfully see the video stream, this can happen for a number of reasons but will only happen on short duration streams and is even rarer.
If your funds are in escrow you can dispute their claim and get your money back as long as it wasnt actual fraud.
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I never really understood manual escrow and refunds,and I still dont get it.I didnt disputed those credits that i had in manual escrow bcs i didnt really cared about them I cared more about being blackmailed.So i made a show for all the time that he booked,at the end of the show he is sending me print screens that he took while i was performing,tells me that he will use them for revenge(and i have to mention that was not any psycho,was a guy living in the same area and i knew him a bit bcs aproached me several times in the places that i used to go out).So now how could i understand why my credits were in escrow bcs i didnt saw any real reason to be like this.I never disputed them,bcs as i said my privacy and safety were more important and from this reason i still dont know why they went in escrow and i thought that any psycho can ask for his money back.
And refund.Is the same thing as Cb?That DanielYEAR that was mentioned before,from what i ve been told by aw when i contacted them ,he used a stolen creditcard.It seems to me like a charge back and i was not the only who had it from him.Maybe until recently refunds rarely happened on aw bcs i didnt had any before,but this year i had one in january and my friend working also on aw had one in february.
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Few more things that I want to clarify.1)I would like to not be considered gossip what I ve said here,I only shared what happened to me,so there s no gossip from my point of view.2)aw is not a site full of chargebacks-i think we all know that it can be worse on other sites.3)i dont really blame aw for refunds,escrows,chargebacks- i actually blame members that are doing it and here i ll have to mention that none of them was from uk,both apeared as accessing from usa.