Re: The Girl Who dosen't Wanna Hustle
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Originally Posted by
kaiarose
$10 an hr :O Did you just enjoy being naked that much that you didn't really care about making a little more than minimum wage? As a dancer in this business you should focus on making at the very least... $50 an hr or it's honestly not worth it. I couldn't imagine being happy making $80 a shift.
Before I danced, I worked a desk job captioning phone calls for deaf people. The work was tedious, mind-numbing, offered absolutely no stimulation beyond being a robot and forced me to sit for hours on end. We weren't even given very many bathroom breaks. Minimum wage where I'm from is $7/hr, and I was making $9/hr at the desk job, so I figured anything around $10/hr that didn't require me to sit on my ass and effectively render myself a machine was like heaven.
I wasn't very good at being a dancer back then, though. And it was Summer and times were crazy. Wisconsin is a fucking hellhole for dancers. I'm shooting higher this time around -- auditions tomorrow & Monday, ohmygod! -- and even so would be more than happy to make $30/hr.
Re: The Girl Who dosen't Wanna Hustle
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Originally Posted by
BringOnTheMen
If I'm working hard I'd like to be making more. But I don't mind sitting around the club in my underwear reading, taking smoking breaks, chatting with people, and making $10/hr for that. Obviously I'd rather make more, but if I'm not putting in effort and just hanging out $10/hr isn't that bad.
And if my club had beer...I'd be sold.
That was my shit. I tried explaining it to my boyfriend last night: "When I was a dancer, I'd work for ten hours, spend about the first six of it smoking some cigarettes, maybe read a book, eat some food, have a food baby, smoke another cigarette... oh, shit, bar time's in two hours -- I'd better sell some dances! And then sell a good dozen dances and average out to about $10 or $20 an hour."
All of the other girls haaated my ass for it. I probably would, too, to be honest.
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Yeah, I don't really get it. Yesterday, we had a bachelor party come in right when the club doors opened at 1pm. No dancers got in til past 1:30 because we're not scheduled til 2 since there isn't normally anyone there before then, and there ended up being a LOT of girls for a Saturday day shift. So there's tons of dudes, antsy to start spending on strippers, and of the 10+ of us there, only myself and another girl were even talking to them. 2 other girls were sitting at the bar eating lunch, and there was a nice crowd of them just chilling by the bar looking bored. 2 other groups walked in, and they went unnoticed by the other girls too. Interestingly, these 2 guys dressed nice-ish walk in and are sitting around with a bucket of that Bud Light Limes, and they were shortly surrounded by girls. They bought a small handful of dances, but 4 girls just latched on to them and wouldn't leave - dudes didn't even buy the dances from them! I don't really get girls who don't hustle, but there are days when you're just on fire and dudes keep going up to you asking for dances, so that can spoil you. Of course, I've talked to some girls in the dressing room who say they're happy as long as they walk out with at least $100 in a 5+ hour shift, so, different standards of success, I guess.
Re: The Girl Who dosen't Wanna Hustle
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Originally Posted by
Felons_Felony
Before I danced, I worked a desk job captioning phone calls for deaf people. The work was tedious, mind-numbing, offered absolutely no stimulation beyond being a robot and forced me to sit for hours on end. We weren't even given very many bathroom breaks. Minimum wage where I'm from is $7/hr, and I was making $9/hr at the desk job, so I figured anything around $10/hr that didn't require me to sit on my ass and effectively render myself a machine was like heaven.
I wasn't very good at being a dancer back then, though. And it was Summer and times were crazy. Wisconsin is a fucking hellhole for dancers. I'm shooting higher this time around -- auditions tomorrow & Monday, ohmygod! -- and even so would be more than happy to make $30/hr.
You worked in WI?? What club?
Re: The Girl Who dosen't Wanna Hustle
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Felons_Felony
That was my shit. I tried explaining it to my boyfriend last night: "When I was a dancer, I'd work for ten hours, spend about the first six of it smoking some cigarettes, maybe read a book, eat some food, have a food baby, smoke another cigarette... oh, shit, bar time's in two hours -- I'd better sell some dances! And then sell a good dozen dances and average out to about $10 or $20 an hour."
All of the other girls haaated my ass for it. I probably would, too, to be honest.
Sounds fucking lame to me. For all the bullshit and opportunity in the club, you bet your ass I'm going to work as hard as I can for as long as I can.
I'd be ashamed of admitting I was happy sitting in a smelly dressing room for 6 hours, wasting time which YOU ARE PAYING the club to be there.....
The other girls didn't hate you, they were bewildered and felt sorry for you. Its not every woman at every age that gets the opportunity to make such good money, so fast, with no education or accredation.
But hey, you made the club owners money and were a warm body, hope that makes you proud....::)
i'd fucking kill myself if I only made 10 bucks an hour to have men often treat me like garbage.
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I never understood girls who would come in, make like $500 in the first two hours of their shift, and then decide to leave. I mean, hell, if I'm on that kind of a roll, I'm going to stick it out till after last call. I think a lot of them would set a goal for themselves, and the instant they met their goal they wanted to leave. I think that's the main reason I never set a nightly goal. I tried to make as much money as I could, and I wouldn't compare it to other nights. After all, every night is different. There are always different girls you're competing with, different customers to cater to, different weather conditions, different drinking patterns, and sometimes one custie would absolutely make your night and you just can't count on that sort of business nightly. Plus, I used to BANK simply by getting there at the start of the shift and not leaving until the end of the night. So many other girls thought it was a waste of time working anything other than the "busy hours" in the middle of the shift. So at the very beginning or very end of the shift, there were few (if any) other girls working, and the customers would literally fall into my lap. Customers would have bought various lap dance tokens throughout the night and never got a chance to use them on anyone else, and so they would literally line up to have dances with me. One night, the DJ kept the music going for half an hour after last call just for my dances, and I ended up making an extra $400 in that short amount of time because I was literally the ONLY girl left. When I finally went upstairs to the dressing room, most of the girls were still there getting changed (I never understood why it takes so fucking long for these girls to change clothes. Seriously, it takes me one minute--two if I'm slow about it. How the hell do they justify taking 45 minutes to change?), and they all got super pissed that I'd made so much money after they went upstairs. I was like, "What did you expect? Did you think customers would start up a tip jar for you and keep dropping money in it while you're up here smoking and bitching about what a shitty night you had?"
There's usually money somewhere in the club. You just have to find it, and it honestly doesn't take a super amount of effort or manipulation or pushy sales skills. It just means getting off your ass and approaching everybody in that club, being upbeat and optimistic, and staying there for your entire shift. I can count the number of times I've left early on one hand, and like three of those were when I was honestly sick. Punctuality may not be the sexiest attribute of a stripper, but it's one of the things that made me the most money.
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Re: The Girl Who dosen't Wanna Hustle
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Originally Posted by
KS_Stevia
Sounds fucking lame to me. For all the bullshit and opportunity in the club, you bet your ass I'm going to work as hard as I can for as long as I can.
I'd be ashamed of admitting I was happy sitting in a smelly dressing room for 6 hours, wasting time which YOU ARE PAYING the club to be there.....
The other girls didn't hate you, they were bewildered and felt sorry for you. Its not every woman at every age that gets the opportunity to make such good money, so fast, with no education or accredation.
But hey, you made the club owners money and were a warm body, hope that makes you proud....::)
i'd fucking kill myself if I only made 10 bucks an hour to have men often treat me like garbage.
Money's just never been important to me. I hated the job I quit to dance, and it was the Summer so utilities & rent weren't nearly as expensive as they were during the Winter. I was content with having enough money to pay bills, eat, and smoke cigarettes. I didn't have any customers treat me like garbage; it was only ever the girls and, in retrospect, that was for a lot of extenuating circumstances that none of us could control.
Re: The Girl Who dosen't Wanna Hustle
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Originally Posted by
kaiarose
You worked in WI?? What club?
Outer Limits. Don't get me wrong; I attribute a lot of what I interpreted as cattiness as a product of management -- a constantly overstaffed floor is good for customers, but means EVERY girl has to hustle, and competition gets fierce -- but it just wasn't my kind of environment. Visions is a lot more me, I think.
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just for the record, when i talk about not hustling, i don't mean i'm sitting around in the dressing room eating dinner and playing video games. i'll talk to custies, i just don't hustle. and that's not to say i can't hustle. i hustled a little bit on saturday night and had my best shift in over a year (but it was a good night, and there were several girls who must have made over a grand, by how busy they were, some of whom were clean dancers). i just hate to full-on hustle. it feels like begging. and i just don't believe in begging for the privelege of swatting hands off my pussy or telling a guy to put his dick back in his pants. there's a pretty big difference. i don't throw myself at guys i'm genuinely into irl, and i'm sure as hell not going to do it in the club.
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I don't think you understand what hustling is if you're likening it to begging. Chatting up the customer, leading the conversation toward dances/VIP/sexy times, and establishing a rapport are hustling - outright begging/demanding for dances isn't hustling, though that is certainly how some girls try and make their money.
Re: The Girl Who dosen't Wanna Hustle
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kaiarose
I'm like that too... I love my job, I really do. I was that shy nerdy girl in school. Very unpopular, etc... Then I started dancing and I learned how to get beautiful and be a bit more outgoing and liked being the center of attention. However, there are just alot of nights that I really have to force myself to hustle or approach men. I freeze up and have mini anxiety attacks because I'm so afraid of getting rejected or having some guy insult me. This job can be so awesome and so terrible at the same time sometimes..
I just started dancing and really have that problem too. I'm not used to selling my looks or personality, I'm used to writing good papers. My social anxiety is really getting in the way of me making money. Do you have any advice at all? How do you deal with the rejection?
Re: The Girl Who dosen't Wanna Hustle
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KendraStrange
I just started dancing and really have that problem too. I'm not used to selling my looks or personality, I'm used to writing good papers. My social anxiety is really getting in the way of me making money. Do you have any advice at all? How do you deal with the rejection?
I have been dancing for almost 8 years now and let me tell you, I am STILL learning things!
I suggest you go to the last page of Hustle Hut and work your way backwards. I'm doing this right now and I have found so many tips/tricks that I had forgotten about. I think after reading a few pages you will be in a different state of mind when you go back to work. I know that I am :) I can't wait to go to work tonight and use the techniques I've been reading up on..
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There's this big difference between the club I work now and the club I worked my first time around as a stripper. My current club is a small, neighborhood bar that just so happens to have dancing girls; if I had a dollar for every time someone told me, "It's like Cheers, but with naked girls," I'd be set with a savings account. My first club, however, was a cold, classy "gentlemen's club." I hustled less at Club 1 than I do these days at Club 2, but it doesn't feel like hustling. It just feels like hanging out. As with any job, it's a lot easier to get work done in an atmosphere where you actually feel good about yourself.
Re: The Girl Who dosen't Wanna Hustle
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Originally Posted by
DesuvsDeath
Some people just don't care enough to try.
It's really impressive how every time you post you're making 3x what you made the last time you posted. >.>
I dance in a military town, so the income varies a whole lot; when active duty military gets paid (on the 1st and the 15th), I get a whole lot (like in the 600s and 700s). A few days before they get paid, I made almost nothing. Plus, when there's a ship homecoming (especially a large vessel, like a carrier), is more money. When the USS Harry S. Truman came back to Virginia, I made so much money that I liquidated my credit card balance just like that. The next week, I was struggling with groceries 'cause I was barely making 200 bucks.
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We had a shockingly quiet month last month, and with more girls than we needed, so everyone has been feeling a bit down.
But this weekend the clients came back.
Friday was still quiet but I was lucky enough to find the one good one. At the beginning of Saturday night my boss told a couple of us (me and my friend who have been there ages) that if its not busy he'd have to get rid of 5 or 6 girls. But we were really busy from the beginning to the end. I got lucky again and was taken in the VIP for a few hours by the first guy I spoke to, so I didn't really witness what was going on but whenever I took a bathroom break I could see how busy the club was.
Only, at the end of the night I spoke with my boss again, and he was standing there with a disappointed look on his face. he told me that at least 10 different customers had come up to him and said they like the club but no girls talkedto them.
I'm appalled! I know I'm terrible for hustling at the beginning of the night (I let the other girls warm them up a bit first) but after midnight there's no excuse for not doing laps of the room and talking to the customers. Apparently they were all sitting at the bar, backs turned to the customers....