You Don't Ask, You Don't Get
It seems to me that I'm the only girl in my club cheeky enough to ask for money for nothing.
I work in a european club where tipping isn't exactly common. Its a small club, and when we're quiet, we're very quiet. Tonight, a slow Monday, we had 5 girls working, and a total of 8 customers all night. I only did one private dance, which was on par with all but one of the other girls.
Towards the end of the night one girl approached the bar, custie in tow, to buy dance tickets. As he pulled out his cash I spun around on my stool, held my hand out and said 'I'll have some too while you're dishing it out'. He gave me €15.
Its not a lot. But I'm pretty pleased with myself for asking :D
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Sometimes when im sitting with customers and theyre taking money out of their wallets to pay for drinks, i'll make a joke and say "you can slip some of that over here too" while pulling out my gstring. Hahahah i usually get a few dollars :P
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I doubt she was happy having her customer give his money to you. That money she hustled for ended up in your hands. You might want to apologize for taking her money.
Put yourself in her shoes. You get a customer ready to spend and another dancer is sitting at the bar with her hand out. Would you be happy?
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omgomgomg_rlc
I doubt she was happy having her customer give his money to you. That money she hustled for ended up in your hands. You might want to apologize for taking her money.
Put yourself in her shoes. You get a customer ready to spend and another dancer is sitting at the bar with her hand out. Would you be happy?
Actually she got him to give me an extra fiver. We have a really nice group of girls and we all get along well. When its quiet like it is now we all help each other out.
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seriously. a lot of guys have an amount they'll spend on one dancer, but it doesn't mean they won't spend on others. if anything, getting guys to be generous to someone else will get them in the mood to be generous to you too. that's why the near-dead (apparently) technique of hustling WITH waitresses and hostesses works so well. you get them to tip the hostess, they get the guy to tip you. but it can work great with other dancers too. like if you get a couple dances or a room, you might not be able to get more from him, but you might recommend a friend to him for more dances. of course, that's why it's important to know who does what, so you don't hand him over to a hooker. lol. which is why club gossip matters.
cutthroating just makes girls look desperate. and it makes customers feel too powerful.
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I notice that the majority of top earners are the girls with the confidence and balls to ask for BIG tips.
I remember a time when I was in the vip area and I overheard a party of girls with a guy. After their time was up, the guy asked our top earner how much he should tip out. Without hesitation she said "1,000 dollars each. That sounds good, right girls?".
Believe it or not, he forked the full amount over.
That's just one example of how being a squeaky wheel can pay out.
Hell, the worst that can happen is that he'll say no. And in a situation like yours, it payed off to pipe up. I'm happy to hear you work in such a wonderful club where the girls all help each other out.
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Absolutely! I ALWAYS ask for a tip after a private dance. Half the time, they don't give me anything extra, but asking didn't cost me anything....and the other half I get extra cash..anywhere from $5-20...and that adds up! I used to lose out by not asking for enough....good for you!
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ManyRoses
Absolutely! I ALWAYS ask for a tip after a private dance. Half the time, they don't give me anything extra, but asking didn't cost me anything....and the other half I get extra cash..anywhere from $5-20...and that adds up! I used to lose out by not asking for enough....good for you!
If I get turned down I say 'well you don't ask you don't get!' which I also use when a nice guy asks if I'll party with him after work "Sorry babe, its against the rules and I would lose my job, but its a fair question, after all, you don't ask you don't get!"
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renaissancelove
I notice that the majority of top earners are the girls with the confidence and balls to ask for BIG tips.
I remember a time when I was in the vip area and I overheard a party of girls with a guy. After their time was up, the guy asked our top earner how much he should tip out. Without hesitation she said "1,000 dollars each. That sounds good, right girls?".
Believe it or not, he forked the full amount over.
That's just one example of how being a squeaky wheel can pay out.
Hell, the worst that can happen is that he'll say no. And in a situation like yours, it payed off to pipe up. I'm happy to hear you work in such a wonderful club where the girls all help each other out.
I've never been one to ask for what I consider to be ridiculous amounts, but the rare occasion a guy asks me how much tip is appropriate, I usually suggest about 60% the cost of the dance (€60 dance = €40 tip) so even if they think thats unreasonable, by comparision, 40% or 50% of the cost is fine.
I do remember one girl in Paris that made big bucks by unblinkingly asking for huge amount of money for nothing "Sure babe, give me that €500 note and I'll tell you what club we're drinking at after"
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If you don't ask you won't get. This is so true! Often times I've done it lately where a guy will go to tip me after a dance and instead of taking the $5 or $10 I'll just point to the $20 and cutely say "No, I'd like THAT one." Most of the time they give it to me, probably because I don't demand and I try to be cute about it. I used to be shy about asking for tips but the extra money really adds up by the end of a shift.
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I've always been told "A closed mouth doesn't get fed". I've definitly learned to speak up and never under estimate my worth!
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I was thinking about this thread last night after I got a champagne room and all I had to do was ask. the guy only wanted one dance at first and said he wanted to get a drink with me after the dance. we got a drink and I asked him if he wanted to do a champagne room with me. normally I wouldn't do this after only ONE dance because the guy's probably being cheap but to my surprise the guy asked how much so I said "how about a half hour for 350?" and he agreed!
sometimes you just gotta ask!
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teaze
This happened to me recently. I was hustling the birthday boy last week and right when I was closing my conversation to sell some dances, some dancer comes up to his face and tells him she would give him a FREE dance since it was his birthday. Of course, he gladly walked off with her. I was so pissed. Not only did she wreck my sale, but she didn't even hustle him for more dances so all he got was a free dance. What a dumb bitch.
im surprised she wasnt afraid you were gonna beat her ass for pulling that on you
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teaze
This happened to me recently. I was hustling the birthday boy last week and right when I was closing my conversation to sell some dances, some dancer comes up to his face and tells him she would give him a FREE dance since it was his birthday. Of course, he gladly walked off with her. I was so pissed. Not only did she wreck my sale, but she didn't even hustle him for more dances so all he got was a free dance. What a dumb bitch.
she seriously offered a free dance?? :O Personally I believe that a "free dance" is a derogitory term. I feel like that since a lap dance has no tangible value (ex a gallon of gas, or milk), its value or worth is based on what the customer feels its worth, and giving out a free dance, even if it is a birthday devalues not only the dance, but the entire club
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I agree! I hate when girls give free dances or 2 for one dances (our club does not run the 2 for 1 special) or 3 for one or EXTREMELY cheap champagne rooms or girls who basically give lap dances on stage. I worked at a club where you didn't have to pay the club any money from your dances so girls would be back there all night giving 5 dollar dances.
my boyfriend is the only one who gets free lap dances...and extras ;] hehehe...
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Actually, I haven't done a single dance since Thursday. The past 4 days I've just straight up asked the guys if they want a CR and they all said yes. It seems the big spenders are back!
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arg I REALLY need to start bringing up the CR more!!!